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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
KanzarisKelshen
04/05/17 2:36:19 AM
#370:


Notes compiled while doing this vote tally:

-Didn't like Death's bandwagon onto Leo one bit. I THINK it's a town Death bandwagon and I just don't like it because it reads lazy. Not 100% though - Death is one of like three players I have no strong clean reads on, alongside plum and peej.
-@UltimaterializerX : You asked me why I wasn't being aggressive. The answer is I had to enroll into my classes for this year today and it's been kind of a fucking nightmare. It says in one place that I didn't pass the writer's workshop first exam which means I have to spend a full semester running extra courses before I'm allowed to start in earnest, but in another place it says I passed. I'm gonna have to go to the college facilities tomorrow to ask what the hell's up and it's got me way too worried because this is for writer's school I really really fucking want to be a writer. And for writing, anything that helps level up your game is gold.
-@Lopen : This is late but Dante as a miller is much more convincing to me than PJ. If the role Kanzaris isn't scum (and I think it isn't - but more on this later when I get to Leo), then PJ as miller makes no sense. There's no faction to hang him with. I haven't played a gravy game so I don't know if he deliberately fucks with flavor to prevent metaing based on it, but it just feels wrong compared to Dante. Thing is that the likelihood of scum not having a single dude who knows the flavor and thinks PJ works is really low (like in terms of pure numbers - we have you, me, chris, Johnbobb, Corrik, scare...statistically the chances of no scum being ex-players or admins is just low)...so yeah, I think Ben is probably not scum just off metaing the role (and his play hasn't given me a reason to think otherwise either), but I do think the claim is BS. Debating what he's trying to hide ATM.
-Scare comes in and talks about how Corrik is way more (meaningfully) active than I've seen him before and I agree. Lots of discussion on this. Ulti, if you had to point at any specific things that weren't just activity to tell whether corrik is scum or town, what would it be? Any tics he has that only show up when he's on a certain team?
-MZero's vote on Leo is pretty strongly scummy. Don't like it at all. Feels wagony.
-Same for VI's move from Leo. 'Too bored', really now?
-Leo's claim as doublevoter fits. Catch is, it fits too well, and it's a very important 'case' to solve because if you put a gun to my head and asked me who was a shoe-in for a scumteam, it woulda been me, trdl, boko, GANON and Mewtwo - the Meeting Room conspiracy that opposed gravy's own bloc. If role-Kanzaris turns out to be town, that makes a lot of pieces click because we can make some pretty likely guesses about what the flavor split is. Also, there's two minions that could count for giving role-me doublevotes, and one of these applied at a certain point in time and another at a different juncture. Leo, level with me here: What letter does the minion's name start with?
-Oddity has jumped around a LOT with his votes and it kinda stands out to me because they feel very reactive. But he's 'shooting from the hip' and none of them feel wrong or unexplainable. Getting a solidly town read from him, just town that focuses a lot on the game at hand instead of 'the archive' (as I think of the evidence backlog from past games).
-Johnbobb is still lurky, but he's posted a bit more and his defense feels more like 'townie who's annoyed at being pegged for inactivity' than 'panicky scum'. Feeling better about him now, enough to downgrade him to 'null tell'.
-MZero, by contrast, sticks out to me as really bad with that wagon vote. That's twice he's done something like that. Dude's pretty fishy.

##Unvote
##Vote: MZero


Ulti feels strongly town to me this game. Not sure about his read on Corrik though, but I do feel more inclined to trust him. His behavior is just nothing like CT or Hearthstone. Need those extra details!
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