Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase

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IfGodCouldDie
05/09/24 4:57:01 PM
#251:


Leafeon13N posted...
I dont know. I'm just spitballing.

But your role is nonstandard and has a condition.

Maybe you are just town, but you are never going to be met without some skepticism from me with that claim.
Ok that's fair.

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PunishedBen
05/09/24 4:59:26 PM
#252:


I was not prepared to spare Red though and dont really know where to go from here. That's like the first Red post I actually like >_>


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htaeD
05/09/24 5:00:34 PM
#253:


UltimaterializerX posted...
If its Red v Peaf, Im keeping Red alive. Hes the best endgame town solver we have. No offense anyone else.

Once again, you could have scanned him to either prevent or decide a lynchy fate

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:01:03 PM
#254:


He was tied with barely more than an hour left in day 4 and led a lot of the day I would expect someone to do... Something in that situation.

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Leafeon13N
05/09/24 5:01:08 PM
#255:


PunishedBen posted...
I was not prepared to spare Red though and dont really know where to go from here. That's like the first Red post I actually like >_>
I've been trying my best all day to get people to prepare to evaluate game state with red as town.
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htaeD
05/09/24 5:01:42 PM
#256:


Meow1000 posted...
I still find it curious how seeing that claim made me think Corrik was probably town yet some people really seemed to jump on it.

I dont think it actually moved any votes in the end tho.

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PunishedBen
05/09/24 5:02:15 PM
#257:


its only a choice between Peaf and MI for me to be clear

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:02:55 PM
#258:


PunishedBen posted...
its only a choice between Peaf and MI for me to be clear
So Red makes one post you like and you're just off of him?

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Leafeon13N
05/09/24 5:03:00 PM
#259:


Also before anyone freaks out at me, yes I'm prepared to follow people onto peaf is that is something people think is a preferable direction.

I never consider my own opinion infallible unless i think there is a perfect solve(which yes sometimes i can be wrong shut up FD).
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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:04:38 PM
#260:


Meow1000 posted...
So Red makes one post you like and you're just off of him?
Right? Oi.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/09/24 5:07:37 PM
#261:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Right? Oi.
I thought you misspelt lol for a sec

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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:08:10 PM
#262:


If people think red is town can you give me a scumteam without me on it?

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:08:16 PM
#263:


Actually Ben you showed as not even having a vote down when you invited so uh

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IfGodCouldDie
05/09/24 5:10:05 PM
#264:


Meow1000 posted...
Actually Ben you showed as not even having a vote down when you invited so uh
Fucking get'em

Jk I do that too

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htaeD
05/09/24 5:10:27 PM
#265:


TotallyNotMI posted...
If people think red is town can you give me a scumteam without me on it?
There's plenty of things left that could point to suspects outside of Peaf, you, Red
But going after those today is a fools errand.

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:10:30 PM
#266:


TotallyNotMI posted...
If people think red is town can you give me a scumteam without me on it?
Issue I'm having right now is Peaf and Ben are scummy but Ben blindly agreed with Peaf on Red way too readily yesterday.

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PunishedBen
05/09/24 5:14:54 PM
#267:


I just dont think he makes that post as scum. It doest make sense from scum Red perspective who looks like they are getting killed today. Also I think the last time he didnt claim flavor he was town (though correct me if he didnt claim it last game)

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htaeD
05/09/24 5:16:09 PM
#268:


Honestly I dont recall if he even claimed nilla last game
Let alone choose a flavor from our safelist.

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:19:55 PM
#269:


TotallyNotMI posted...
If people think red is town can you give me a scumteam without me on it?
The big wild card for me is in Ctes/Chang and there is not enough information to make a deduction.

Especially depending on Ctes role (assuming he's vote manipulating himself), it's actually still possible for Chang to be scum. I mentioned once before that FD was once a scum Lawyer that could only lawyer the lynch onto other scum. He coasted all the way until final 4 under no scrutiny after using it.

The absurd fanfare leading up to it and the momentum killing way Chang used it still gives the impression he was doing it for show more than anything else.

Crescent did a very similar thing with pre-setup and hyping up her confirmable power in FFXIV as scum, and people let her ride on it.


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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:20:01 PM
#270:


It's literally tied why wouldn't he put effort in to sway some votes

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Leafeon13N
05/09/24 5:20:10 PM
#271:


I dont claim flavor.

Unless there is specific game relevance.

NAI.
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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:20:49 PM
#272:


TotallyNotMI posted...
It's literally tied why wouldn't he put effort in to sway some votes
This is to ben

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:23:29 PM
#273:


Meow1000 posted...
Wall basically told the entire game he was town.
You know, i really think the thing from Knightz about you, me, and red being "blatently" town is true and not some master brained lie from him. He couldn't see us as anything but.

##Unvote

It feels a little silly to put stock into that now but it's where my mind was going during my work call.

UltimaterializerX posted...
So Red AND Peaf finished on MI day one.

Id like reasons from both.
I don't have the receipts but there were questions he asked and things he prodded on that felt very weird. Like in a "hey guys look I'm here and I'm participating but not actually scum hunting or advancing any real ideas" kind of weird. And he handled himself very passively that gave me a weird vibe. I find myself thinking i was right on day 1, though.

##Vote: MI

UltimaterializerX posted...
Does anyone have the day 3 vote totals?

If Peaf also finished on Corrik, we murder him.
Here you are:

Final Day Three Votals
[6] Corrik - Ulti, (Kirby), (IGCD), (MI), (IGCD), (Death), Kirby, Blade, (IGCD), Death, (IGCD), Ben, IGCD
[2] Red - (Ben), FD, (Mzero), Peaf, (Kirby)
[1] Peaf - (Corrik), (Blade), Mzero, (MI), (Changmas)
[0] Ctes - (Death)

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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:25:08 PM
#274:


You guys thinking the three trains on d1 were all scum is you all really over estimating our skills

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:26:12 PM
#275:


Meow1000 posted...
The big wild card for me is in Ctes/Chang and there is not enough information to make a deduction.

Especially depending on Ctes role (assuming he's vote manipulating himself), it's actually still possible for Chang to be scum. I mentioned once before that FD was once a scum Lawyer that could only lawyer the lynch onto other scum. He coasted all the way until final 4 under no scrutiny after using it.

The absurd fanfare leading up to it and the momentum killing way Chang used it still gives the impression he was doing it for show more than anything else.

Crescent did a very similar thing with pre-setup and hyping up her confirmable power in FFXIV as scum, and people let her ride on it.
Chang proved that he could move all votes to whomever, before he killed wallz. If that's a scum power in this game then frankly, i think Lea balanced this game solely to extract glee for herself in the form of pain from the players

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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:26:19 PM
#276:


I also want to point out that ulti's recent posts sound like he isn't even planning to scan red tonight anymore

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Kirby321
05/09/24 5:26:39 PM
#277:


Fuck it we ball

##Vote: MI

I find myself only switching off MI because I blocked him and stuff still happened.

Meanwhile Red and Peaf keep making posts that make me change my mind. Going with gut here, but my gut keeps saying even if I vote Death or something it'll still be wrong so YOLO

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Enchantress
05/09/24 5:27:50 PM
#278:


Votals
[2] Peaf - Mzero, (Kirby), Changmas
[2] Red - (Kirby), MI, (Kirby),FD, (Peaf), (Kirby)
[1] Ben - (MI), (Ulti), (Ulti), (FD), Ulti,
[2] MI - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Kirby), Peaf, Kirby
[0] Blade - (Ulti)
[0] FD - (Ulti)
[0] Ctes - (Kirby)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends Thursday, May 9th at 6 PM EST.

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Kirby321
05/09/24 5:27:56 PM
#279:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I also want to point out that ulti's recent posts sound like he isn't even planning to scan red tonight anymore

Oof nevermind I like MI again.

##Unvote
##Vote: Red

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:28:17 PM
#280:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I also want to point out that ulti's recent posts sound like he isn't even planning to scan red tonight anymore
If he is actually cop then i don't want him to commit to scanning any specific person tbh

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Kirby321
05/09/24 5:28:37 PM
#281:


Enchantress posted...
Votals
[2] Peaf - Mzero, (Kirby), Changmas
[2] Red - (Kirby), MI, (Kirby),FD, (Peaf), (Kirby)
[2] Ben - (MI), (Ulti), (Ulti), (FD), Ulti, Kirby
[1] MI - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Kirby), Peaf
[0] Blade - (Ulti)
[0] FD - (Ulti)
[0] Ctes - (Kirby)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends Thursday, May 9th at 6 PM EST.

Whoa sister my vote shouldn't anywhere near Ben. Don't think I voted him at all today

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Leafeon13N
05/09/24 5:28:47 PM
#282:


Kirby321 posted...
Oof nevermind I like MI again.

##Unvote
##Vote: Red
The fuck are you doing kirby.
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Kirby321
05/09/24 5:29:05 PM
#283:


PeaceFrog posted...
If he is actually cop then i don't want him to commit to scanning any specific person tbh

Agreed. Let's kill Red to ensure that

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:29:07 PM
#284:


PeaceFrog posted...
Chang proved that he could move all votes to whomever, before he killed wallz. If that's a scum power in this game then frankly, i think Lea balanced this game solely to extract glee for herself in the form of pain from the players
He proved he could move votes.

He did not prove he could actually kill them.

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Kirby321
05/09/24 5:29:46 PM
#285:


Leafeon13N posted...
The fuck are you doing kirby.

Lynching you. Duh.

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htaeD
05/09/24 5:30:00 PM
#286:


Well I dont know if scanning Red is as useful as say scanning Ben

Also I am not inclined to vote MI because of the way day1 votals went down. Tho I realize I havent paid enough attention to MI as a whole.

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ctesjbuvf
05/09/24 5:30:11 PM
#287:


Meow1000 posted...
He proved he could move votes.

He did not prove he could actually kill them.

What's the difference?

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:30:29 PM
#288:


The issue I've always maintained is the way he used his power was to put on a performance.

He then used it to kill a guy who was roleblocked sending the kill.

It was needless, and it basically killed town's entire discussion for the day.

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TotallyNotMI
05/09/24 5:31:25 PM
#289:


PeaceFrog posted...
If he is actually cop then i don't want him to commit to scanning any specific person tbh
Fair but I'm really concerned that ulti and red are scum together and ulti is purposefully avoiding "scanning" red

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htaeD
05/09/24 5:31:53 PM
#290:


Chang was a suspect, him claiming his power made sense day2 and it could never not have been a performance given how strong it was.

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:32:44 PM
#291:


My thoughts on ben, ignoring the claim and such, is that on day 3 for scum to be the catalyst that opens the lynch door up beyond the town that basically everyone thinks it's scum, is super risky. You can get caught in that crossfire!

But being down 2 members means they have to take risks. And scum Ben loves chaos. He certainly caused some! I don't remember if corrik had claimed vanilla by that point, but there is definitely scum equity in getting the day rolling so that you can get more info from claims, which wouldn't happen if we simply ride the lazy river to Corrik Beach.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/09/24 5:33:33 PM
#292:


Meow1000 posted...
He proved he could move votes.

He did not prove he could actually kill them.

When he forced the votes into a majority the day ended. How is that functionally different than killing? It might as well be a day vig that ends the day when it's used.

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Leafeon13N
05/09/24 5:33:56 PM
#293:


Chang murdered a broken as fuck role when he could have easily justified killing corrik.

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:34:47 PM
#295:


Leafeon13N posted...
Chang murdered a broken as fuck role when he could have easily justified killing corrik.
FD's role in the game I remember could not kill town.

He was forced to Lawyer onto other scum.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/09/24 5:35:07 PM
#296:


PeaceFrog posted...
which wouldn't happen if we simply ride the lazy river to Corrik Beach.

I don't think that was ever in danger. There were several of us looking outside of the presumptive lynch every day. Only to be paradoxically accused of deflecting when we do, and yet accused of allowing the day to stagnate when we don't. It's a disgusting Catch 22

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:35:09 PM
#297:


htaeD posted...
Chang was a suspect, him claiming his power made sense day2 and it could never not have been a performance given how strong it was.
And given his flavor and his love of this games flavor. I agree completely.

Meow1000 posted...
He proved he could move votes.

He did not prove he could actually kill them.
Either way, a scum role that can dictate every vote from every player is more ridiculous than Knightz'.

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Meow1000
05/09/24 5:35:25 PM
#298:


And hell if I remember what game it is but he eventually got lynched in final 4 after coasting on it.

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PeaceFrog
05/09/24 5:36:05 PM
#300:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Do you people really think the fourth alignment would openly tell scum who Im scanning? All bait to root them out.

MI, to answer your question Ben, Peaf, Kirby. There is no rule against scum having multiple roleblockers and Kirby is not this bad.
... if Kirby is scum then he could just be lying about jk to have bussed wallz to distract from Corrik vs Blade.

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