https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/25/24049050/microsoft-activision-blizzard-layoffs
Tell me more about how this merger was a good thing, @ConfusedTorchic
Really comes back to that never work in video game dev. Terrible short sighted industry.Or just never open your company up to be publicly traded.
Or just never open your company up to be publicly traded.That's also a big one.
Or just never open your company up to be publicly traded.
okay but do we know how many of these laid off employess were sex offenders and how many were victims, i need the ratios
Then you wind up begging for money on Kickstarter or going bankrupt.
Game dev is a terrible industry in general in the modern era.
microsoft isn't the only company doing layoffs right now lmao
Literally "everybody else is doing it!"
i mean, yeah?
the video game industry is bleak as hell right now because of it. there's going to be more, Sony is even planning on closing a studio as well.
None of which makes it okay. I don't care if it's Microsoft, Sony, or somebody everybody loves like ConcernedApe (putting aside for a moment the question of how plausible it is for him to lay anyone off), massive layoffs are bad.
i never said it was
i implied that singling out one specific company for doing it when they aren't the only ones doing it is dumb
You have, however, been quite happy to defend their acquisitions. Now you're turning around and handwaving massive layoffs as being an inevitable part of acquisitions
You have, however, been quite happy to defend their acquisitions. Now you're turning around and handwaving massive layoffs as being an inevitable part of acquisitions.Are you ignoring the economicst of the layoffs?
I'm not singling out any one specific company. Microsoft is bad for laying off 1900 employees now. Microsoft was also bad for laying off however may thousands they laid off a few months ago. Sony was also bad when they laid off Bungie employees, or Epic when they laid off a bunch of people, or ABK, or everyone else that's been indulging in mass layoffs over the last year. I recognize that many on the Internet do not possess such a talent, but I am capable of thinking ill of multiple companies at the same time.
i never made any allusion that layoffs weren't going to happen lmao
Are you ignoring the economicst of the layoffs?
Sure if a layoff only ensures a larger bonus for people who don't need bonuses, that's a bad layoff.
"Sure, it cost 1900 people their jobs, but this merger is a good thing because now I can play Diablo on Gamepass!"
literally no.
the merger was good because it's bringing more titles to more platforms that the titles weren't already on.
the layoffs are going to happen regardless to clear out redundancies.
i clearly said it was going to happen regardless, has been happening regardless, and that the industry as a whole is very bad right now because everyone is doing layoffs, not just ones that had a major merger.
-The merger is good because now I can play Diablo on Gamepass
-Layoffs are an inevitable part of the merger
A little bit of transitive substitution, and we get:
"Layoffs are an inevitable part of something that is good because now I can play Diablo on Gamepass."
All the pieces are there: you're justifying a business decision that you acknowledge will result in layoffs with the fact that games will come to more platforms. Therefore, Diablo on Gamepass>1900 people's jobs, in your eyes.
what's with your weird fixation on diablo?
gamepass isn't a platform.
you're straight up putting words into my mouth i never once said or implied.
Am I? Let's review:
-"The merger is [a good thing] since more titles are coming to more platforms they otherwise wouldn't be on" (fundamentally equivalent to "it's good because now Diablo will be on Gamepass")
-"Layoffs after mergers are completely normal and [...] that's objectively a bad thing" (fundamentally equivalent to "layoffs are an inevitable part of mergers")
-It is your opinion that Microsoft's acquisition of ABK is overall a good thing
It (along with other game subscriptions/streaming services) was included in that infographic you liked to throw around pre-merger to show off how many "new platforms" ABK games would be coming to.
not equivalent at all. you are the only one who has brought up gamepass this entire time. i surely didn't.
yeah i never posted any infographics like that. the one i did post was just showing how many different studios would be under the xbox brand as a whole.
you are, again, putting words into my mouth that i never said.
so an infographic about call of duty, you somehow equated to mean
And the link in question:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/2/AAeEKDAAEp44.jpg
What even are the bottom half?
Then let's revisit this:
-"The merger is [a good thing] since more titles are coming to more platforms they otherwise wouldn't be on"
-"Layoffs after mergers are completely normal and [...] that's objectively a bad thing"
-It is your opinion that Microsoft's acquisition of ABK is overall a good thing
Are any of these statements incorrect or inconsistent with your position?
Not Helly running away from an argument he cant win? Nah.
microsoft isn't the only company doing layoffs right now lmaoI don't really agree with helly very often but there really isn't anything wrong he said here
also pretty sure no one thought there wouldn't be layoffs after a merger. it always happens.
Bungie laid off how many of their employees after they were bought by Sony?
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1750530203468849230
phil Spencer could shit in hellys mailbox and he would find a way to spin it into a good thingTbh that would be a cool story to tell at a party though. "This big exec from Xbox took a shit in my mailbox one time!" Plus, you could definitely sue him
for now, can't wait to see what you'll try and spin it as now
i never made any allusion that layoffs weren't going to happen lmaoExcept that wouldn't have happened if the government had stood their ground and refused to let the companies become one. Competition does help the economy but only so long as the government is around to force companies to compete and not let them merge. Mergers shouldn't be allowed ever. All they do is kill competition, stifle creativity and kill jobs.
when Sony bought Bungie, i also championed it as a decidedly good thing. Sony tends to know what they're doing with regards to their studios moreso than most everyone else."Sony knows what they are doing?" Good lord that is hilarious. Sony has been more censor happy than Nintendo ever was and yet "they know what they are doing"? Yeah you have shown your lack of intelligence with that statement, bud.
You think Microsoft and ABK werent going to layoffs without a merger?
#BenderLaugh
Oh wait youre being serious
#BiggerBenderLaugh