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Is he going to make it through the term? He doesnt have a healthy lifestyle, but he seems to be energetic and not near death. You never know though.
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Do you want him to make it through?
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Yeah that problem he has? Not a standalone issue. Its a symptom of serious heart health problems
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hopefully not.
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papercup posted...
Yeah that problem he has? Not a standalone issue. Its a symptom of serious heart health problems
Spare us. I suppose you also thought Biden was a specimen of great health.
jsb0714 posted...
Spare us. I suppose you also thought Biden was a specimen of great health.
Are your feelings hurt?
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jsb0714 posted...
Spare us. I suppose you also thought Biden was a specimen of great health.
lol no and why are you taking a cold hard fact about another person as a personal attack?
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jsb0714 posted...
Spare us. I suppose you also thought Biden was a specimen of great health.
???
What are you getting all huffy about?
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It can be hard to accept that Dear Leader is in fact a fragile mortal.
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adjl posted...
It can be hard to accept that Dear Leader is in fact a fragile mortal.
No it's not.
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He looks like he could be walking and suddenly stop and fall over dead.
hopefully.
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jsb0714 posted...
Spare us. I suppose you also thought Biden was a specimen of great health.
People really be incapable of defending Trump with anything other than whataboutism.
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dj1200 posted...
but he seems to be energetic

That's not true at all. He can barely walk and stumbles around when trying to climb stairs.

The truth of the matter, as we just saw when they tried to hide the heart condition causing the ankle swelling is... they're not going to say a single thing if anything did happen and will try to hide it for as long as they can .
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At worst, the Press Sec will say there's no need for concern and the next thing you'll know is Trump is hosting the winning team of some sports and binging McDonalds
adjl posted...
It can be hard to accept that Dear Leader is in fact a fragile mortal.


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GreenKnight127 posted...
Do you want him to make it through?
It doesn't particularly matter because he's following a playbook written for him. Next guy line will do the same.
Still in better health than Grandpa Demented
Funny that there are people here assuming if you dislike Trump you must like Biden, even though Biden's poor health was so undeniable that his own base (deservedly) turned on him and pushed him out the nomination
bachewychomp posted...
Funny that there are people here assuming if you dislike Trump you must like Biden, even though Biden's poor health was so undeniable that his own base (deservedly) turned on him and pushed him out the nomination
There's no logical defense of Trump so the only thing people can do is deflect to Biden or some other recent democratic president or nominee.
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He's out of shape and his mental decline is obvious.
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Well, a lot of the Trump health stuff is just liberal wishcasting to be fair. Admittedly I haven't been paying close attention to the stuff with the swelling ankles that's a newer development, and I get it that that's real, but there has been so much smoke blown about his health and "one of those McDonald's hamburgers is gonna give him a heart attack any day!" since his first term that its the boy who cried wolf to me at this point. Just like Biden he has also had a lot of weird speech slip ups in his years and people trying to speculate on it. Who knows, if they ever diagnose or already have diagnosed either guy with some kind of mental-related condition, both of their respective handlers clearly want to hide it, so there's not much use in speculating unless their mental faculties become so obviously and consistently defective that it can't be ignored.

I despise Trump but I'm not gonna tell myself that his health is gonna take him out of the presidency until I see it. In very unscientific terms, these horrible people always seem to make it to 100. And Violet is right anyway. If we lose Trump we might get only a mild reprieve; Congress concocted and approved this horrible bill that guts services to funnel more money to the wealthy; SCOTUS is waving through many of the executive actions; the media landscape will still have a bunch of far-right algorithms.
The people who want Trump to die are stupid anyway since that would make Vance the president.
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Revelation34 posted...
The people who want Trump to die are stupid anyway since that would make Vance the president.
At least Vance wouldn't shut sue people for making fun of his funny looking head.
Vance wears heavy eyeshadow.
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In his first term, I actually did think Pence would've made a more scary president since their horrible policies would be treated as business as usual again with a "nice" face on them. But I think BBB is proof it doesn't really matter at this point. Plus Trump has an amount of unchecked power he didn't have in his first term. Vance at least might cut down on the dictator overtures. I'm sure they wouldn't close the new concentration camps or stop disappearing people with ICE, but maybe at least whatever shit Trump can cook up in the future wouldn't happen. But yeah, probably no apology or going back from what was already started.
bachewychomp posted...
In his first term, I actually did think Pence would've made a more scary president since their horrible policies would be treated as business as usual again with a "nice" face on them. But I think BBB is proof it doesn't really matter at this point. Plus Trump has an amount of unchecked power he didn't have in his first term. Vance at least might cut down on the dictator overtures. I'm sure they wouldn't close the new concentration camps or stop disappearing people with ICE, but maybe at least whatever shit Trump can cook up in the future wouldn't happen. But yeah, probably no apology or going back from what was already started.
In hindsight Pence would've been an improvement because he's proven he at least is loyal to the constitution and was willing to push back against Trump when he tried to overturn the election results. Meanwhile Vance out there supporting literal Nazi candidates in Europe so he would at best be a lateral move from Trump. Possibly worse.
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I don't think there's something about Pence in particular having more integrity, it's just how the party has been shifting over the years. Back when Trump won the first time we kept hearing a bunch of stuff about how Congress would keep him moderate, and now a lot of those same Republicans are still in Congress and doing everything in lockstep with him.

I wonder if they thought they'd be done with Trump after he lost in 2020 and that's why Pence was emboldened to defy him. But I kind of doubt it, unless they are really naive. To me it felt painfully obvious the whole time that Trump was gonna run in 2024, and also that Biden was such a pathetic, weak candidate whose presidency was so dead on arrival that Trump was gonna win again. The Democrats are definitely naive enough to have thought that was the end of Trump though
everyone all thought pence would have been worse because he was devout christian fundamentalist

as it turns out, he was one of the better people in trumps first presidency, because he actually still followed rules and laws and put the nation first over cronyism and dictators.

which is why trump made him the main target for his terrorists to kill at the capitol.

if pence were to become president, it likely would have just been a normal presidency where nothing of note happens except for covid, but his response would likely have been much, much better.
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bachewychomp posted...
Funny that there are people here assuming if you dislike Trump you must like Biden, even though Biden's poor health was so undeniable that his own base (deservedly) turned on him and pushed him out the nomination

I think deep down conservatives know when Trump is out of the picture then conservativism loses a lot of momentum in the popular consciousness.

The left wing can legitimately claim to be more principled than the right because they walked the walk. Biden's health was an issue? He was removed him from nomination. Biden/Harris improperly handling the Palestine issue? We took them to task on it knowing it would hurt election chances.

Conservatives refuse to admit any concerns or faults with Trump because they legitimately cannot afford to lose him.
Revelation34 posted...
The people who want Trump to die are stupid anyway since that would make Vance the president.
Vance is utterly despised by most of the country, has the charisma of a moldy piece of bread and wouldn't inherent the cult. There would likely be much more pushback by establishment GOP on actions he does, since he wouldn't be able to intimidate and threaten them into submission like the orange can, and most of the orange loyalists are ONLY loyal to the orange and would immediately turn on Vance.
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GreenKnight127 posted...
Do you want him to make it through?
Would president Vance be any better?
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Muscles posted...
Would president Vance be any better?
There would be more opposition to him at least, because of the reasons I mentioned above, though he would probably follow Project 2025 more closely due to his ties to the Heritage Foundation and Peter Thiel.
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VioletZer0 posted...
The left wing can legitimately claim to be more principled than the right because they walked the walk. Biden's health was an issue? He was removed him from nomination. Biden/Harris improperly handling the Palestine issue? We took them to task on it knowing it would hurt election chances.

That's the problem. The right in America is completely, unashamedly hypocritical and has absolutely no problem supporting its members for the sake of politics when they do something atrocious. Meanwhile most of the left is determined to be paragons of virtue and eat each other alive when they deem someone to be not progressive enough or problematic.

Polls consistently show that left wing policies are far more popular with the general public and Democrats should realistically win almost every election. But between self sabotage, gerrymandering, and reliably choosing awful, unrelatable candidates, they throw away half of them.
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bachewychomp posted...
Vance at least might cut down on the dictator overtures.

Vance has routinely said things to the effect of "how dare you try to limit the President's authority in any capacity?" in response to any of the legal challenges and whatnot Trump has faced with this presidency. There's a fair chance that much of that is just feigning blind loyalty to make sure he's not the target of Trump's next messy breakup, but I still don't exactly get the vibe that he's a fan of checks and balances.
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I think the right falling in line and the left eating itself is an inevitable problem just by the very nature of those ideologies. The right is more about maintaining hierarchies and treating their authority figures as "correct" simply by virtue of having that power. They're always gonna get lots of their base voting for them no matter what they do because they want to feel like they're in that in-group.

Meanwhile the left is looking for actual change/progress and you have Democrats with messaging that amounts to "it's time to return to business as usual" wondering why they lose so much. They spend their time and energy trying to appease moderate right-wing voters while actively sabotaging and spitting on the left in America.
Frankly Im amazed with all the McDonalds Trump eats he somehow has the energy in his late 70s to campaign and win the presidency twice. Heart disease should gotten him by now, although I hear he said he never touched alcohol in his life so maybe theres some counterbalance
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bachewychomp posted...
I think the right falling in line and the left eating itself is an inevitable problem just by the very nature of those ideologies. The right is more about maintaining hierarchies and treating their authority figures as "correct" simply by virtue of having that power. They're always gonna get lots of their base voting for them no matter what they do because they want to feel like they're in that in-group.

Meanwhile the left is looking for actual change/progress and you have Democrats with messaging that amounts to "it's time to return to business as usual" wondering why they lose so much. They spend their time and energy trying to appease moderate right-wing voters while actively sabotaging and spitting on the left in America.

It also doesn't help that progressivism is inherently always going to be less unified than conservativism. There are countless ways to try to make things better, with advantages and disadvantages and side effects and varying effectivenesses and all sorts of things that people who agree on the basic principle of "we should make things better" can argue eternally about. There's exactly one way to keep everything the same. The only argument there is whether or not keeping things the same is a good idea.

Now, when you start to bring regressivism into the picture, that advantage gets a little slimmer, but even then moving things backwards is still already defined and all you have to do is make a case for the past state being better. That's a lot less open-ended than introducing a new state and making a case for it being better.
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David1988 posted...
Frankly Im amazed with all the McDonalds Trump eats he somehow has the energy in his late 70s to campaign and win the presidency twice. Heart disease should gotten him by now, although I hear he said he never touched alcohol in his life so maybe theres some counterbalance

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The God-Emperor has 1271 days left in office unless he resigns or dies. I'm really wondering who is going to be the next president. Vance doesn't seem too popular. Pretty sure Newsome will run, but I don't think he's too popular either.
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Person106 posted...
He's the God-emperor

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totally normal and not at all weird ai image aside, it's pretty funny that it made him Julius Caesar.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
totally normal and not at all weird ai image aside, it's pretty funny that it made him Julius Caesar.

Shut up! Joe Biden has dementia you can't say anything!!!
I wonder why this topic is not considered talking politics, but talking about the price of eggs is.
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ooger posted...
I wonder why this topic is not considered talking politics, but talking about the price of eggs is.
Talking about a famous persons health that happens to be a politician isnt really talking politics. My last comment may have crossed the line though.
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dj1200 posted...
Talking about a famous persons health that happens to be a politician isnt really talking politics. My last comment may have crossed the line though.
And egg prices is?
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I don't know. I'm not a mod.
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