Slipknot doesn't (though bear in mind I've only heard up to 3.0) qualify as metal metal because its song structure and riffing type is not metal,
Slipknot doesn't (though bear in mind I've only heard up to 3.0) qualify as metal metal because its song structure and riffing type is not metal, it is rock. It is built around standard hard rock power chords instead of riffs, and frequently contains non-metal elements such as rapping and turntablism. Many bands around them are the same; Mudvayne, Nothingface, etc. A7X is more metal than Slipknot. 235's pinned post has more info.
You're arguing with the wrong guy then. I never once said this. At least pay attention to who it is youre arguing withSo you agree Slipknot and Nu Metal are metal then.
Its song structure is not metal? How so? Intro verse chorus verse chorus guitar solo chorus. It's standard song structure.
And if the extra instrument(s) disqualify it then why is any band with a keyboard also not metal? Because you've arbitrarily decided some instruments outside the core guitar/drum setup are or are not metal? What about symphonic death metal? If Fleshgod Apocalypse used a turntable in one of their songs do they suddenly become not metal?
So you agree Slipknot and Nu Metal are metal then.Yeah... like I said... I never once even said anything about this. I even like some nu metal like SOAD but I dont like slipknot. So can you shut the fuck up now and let the grown ups talk about metal?
Not necessarily, but often. It's about how it's designed around a particular element in numetal -- its riffing. Its riffing structures are not the same and it's clearly evident when you listen to it. They are most often built around simple power chords; metal is not -- it's built around 3 or 4 specific riffs.So power metal isn't metal then because it's also based around power chords right?
No, but that just served as an additional example of something in numetal that's untoward in metal. I don't care much about that point myself though, I think Strapping Young Lad have done it too.
Yeah... like I said... I never once even said anything about this. I even like some nu metal like SOAD but I dont like slipknot. So can you shut the fuck up now and let the grown ups talk about metal?You're literally the first person in the topic who said that a bunch of the previously mentioned bands weren't acceptable answers but ok.
So power metal isn't metal then because it's also based around power chords right?
No because it's not, lol.Ok that's all I needed to know about your logical reasoning skills, thanks.
You're literally the first person in the topic who said that a bunch of the previously mentioned bands weren't acceptable answers but ok.I meant acceptable in terms of me not liking them not that they weren't metal but keep it up with the strawman arguments i guess. I even told you that was tongue in cheek and not meant to be taken seriously but clearly you were very offended lol
You might be interested in the more atmospheric/progressive kinda hardcore subgenres like sludge and stoner. Try stuff like maybe Kyuss, early Neurosis, and Cult of Luna.oh ye, already a fan of all three. loved when Cult of Luna teamed up with Julie Christmas, was a big fan of hers for quite a long while.
this little 3-way 'argument' has been very cute btw, let's see how long it can keep goingIt's over because Ghostchant clearly doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and is just vomiting random incoherent music-sounding explanations for his opinion. I'm done engaging with him. "Metal is based on riffs." That's some advanced music theory shit right there.
Numetal.A salt is a compound composed of positively charged cations and negatively charged anions, so that the overall electric charge is neutral. Table salt, sodium chloride, is one kind of salt. Nusalt, which is usually potassium chloride, is another kind of salt.
It's not metal , though. Like nusalt is not salt, it's a salt subtitute.
A salt is a compound composed of positively charged cations and negatively charged anions, so that the overall electric charge is neutral. Table salt, sodium chloride, is one kind of salt. Nusalt, which is usually potassium chloride, is another kind of salt.But it's not TRVE SALT though don't you understand?
Don't mention any obscure trve cvlt black metal bands like judas priest or megadeth or man101 will get really upsetI'm not sure where in anything I said you got the impression I don't like obscure bands
I will acknowledge that Rammstein are really good.
And they're right up there with Nine Inch Nails for having the best live concert performances ever.
this little 3-way 'argument' has been very cute btw, let's see how long it can keep going
I remember lurking the metal board back in the day for some reason (I guess this was when I still thought I'd like to get more into metal) and they absolutely HATED nu metal. I do think most nu metal sucks but it definitely reeked a bit of trying to exclude "bad" stuff. Of course not every nu metal band sounds like the same thing, there are some I probably get it when people say that isn't really metal, but some I'd probably disagree. That board also treated some metal encyclopedia site as the word of god but I don't think there's any true authority on what is metal.You're probably thinking of Encyclopedia Metallum, which is the elitist douchebag metalhead bible. They won't even include a lot of artists and the reviews on there are hilarious. A band dares to include clean vocals on one track and half the reviews say something to the effect of, "mainstream pop music garbage, 2/10."
On the other end of the spectrum though, I find it a bit silly that Wikipedia evidently thinks the likes of Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith are metal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music
Eluveitie has been my most listened to band for many years in a row
It's over because Ghostchant clearly doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and is just vomiting random incoherent music-sounding explanations for his opinion. I'm done engaging with him. "Metal is based on riffs." That's some advanced music theory shit right there.I suggest being less mad about these things, even if he was being illogical. Have a laugh, it's silly. I asked him the same questions, let it go, and we shared some bands. Oh well!
I suggest being less mad about these things, even if he was being illogical. Have a laugh, it's silly. I asked him the same questions, let it go, and we shared some bands. Oh well!Contrary to how I may sound I'm not and never was mad at all. I just have the text equivalent of resting bitch face.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/68c56714.jpgThis has to be satire. You can't read any of those band names.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4b39872b.jpg
Contrary to how I may sound I'm not and never was mad at all. I just have the text equivalent of resting bitch face.Aight well, in that case, everyone had a very nice little metal chat. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/67683d4c.jpg
I saw them open for Bodom one time.
Not a huge folk metal gal, but it was pretty cool to see them live. I remember a lady playing hurdy gurdy or some equally ridiculous instrument, and I was drunk enough to think it was pretty fuckin neat.
This has to be satire. You can't read any of those band names.
Not only does it all sound the sameI remember thinking this back when I didn't listen to any death metal.
Ghost has been rising in my personal ranks for a while now.They did a song about a goat, so that scores some points with me.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8c338da9.jpg
Hell yeah dude
I love Avril Lavigne
Other good metal bandsI understood that reference
Agnostic Priest
Gangergar Elder Eelaleelal
Gugnugmug Ulugdug
Fuckface Academy
Sausage Assassin
Financially R***ed
Smugly Dismissed