totalnerdken posted...
I don't see an issue with it. She didn't insult men who don't want that role. She just said what she desires.
The issue is she's selfish and a hypocrite.
She wants all the benefits of being an independent modern woman but still expects the man to be held to traditional gender roles, pay for her meals, be willing to risk his life to protect her, etc...
What she desires is toxic.
Godnorgosh posted...
Sure. I'm just responding to what this woman said in this video. If you don't want to play the childbearing and homemaker role (which is more than understandable), then it also begs the question why the man should always have to pay on the first date or be the one to hold the door open, or be the only one providing most of the financial support in the relationship.
It's worth considering rethinking these expectations. No one wants to be the one in the relationship doing almost all of the heavy lifting except a doormat, regardless of gender.
Well said.
Unfortunately many men are still doormats, but a lot of them are learning better, thus the video complaining about it.
Raikuro posted...
Anyone complaining about splitting the bill can't be taken seriously
Agreed.
bsp77 posted...
Random advice to men about women related to this. On a first date, assuming you asked her out, always reach for the check. More often then not, she will offer to split. When she does I say, "I asked you out, so I am happy to pay". They almost always then say okay (I think only once did someone insist on splitting and there was no chemistry or second date anyway). Oftentimes, they even say "I'll get the next one", which is great. Whether they said that or not, almost every woman I have been a second date with picked up the check.
tldr: always try to pay on the first date
Random advice to men:
Don't listen to the above.
NEVER go on dinner dates until you are actually in a relationship. Walk in the park, a coffee date, netflix and chill (maybe cook dinner at home, too), whatever... Pick early dates that are cheap or free. If she actually is interested in you, she won't mind. If she's just looking to use you as a foodie call (ie, fraud/theft), she'll balk. It's a great screening tool and will save you a ton of money and time. Also, if the date is going poorly (you're not getting along at all, she's rude/angry/etc..., she looks *nothing* like her profile pic, and so on) it's a hell of a lot less awkward to bail than when you're in a restaurant booth awaiting your entree.
And on another note, "whoever asks the other out should pay" is a total cop out, too. In reality, women almost never ask guys out, they'll just signal their interest and he'll have to be the one to ask. It's basically just another sneaky way of saying, "the man should pay." If he picks a restaurant that's too pricey for you to pay your share, then she can propose another one.