Where do you think gaming would be if Sony and Nintendo remained partners?

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And the Nintendo PlayStation actually happened?
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From what I remember, Nintendo was wise to turn it down. Sony tried to weasel into the contract that they'd own any property on the system. Nintendo wasn't going to give up Mario just for help on a console.
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PurpleOutsider posted...
From what I remember, Nintendo was wise to turn it down. Sony tried to weasel into the contract that they'd own any property on the system. Nintendo wasn't going to give up Mario just for help on a console.

Sony is a crooked company.
I read an article when Panasonic was their biggest rival, Sony sabotaged the promotion of Panasonic's new product's advertising. When Panasonic printed millions of new flier for it, Sont paid the printing company to delay the print and copied the flier's design. Then they released it for their own product so Panasonic will be seen as the copycat because the flier has 98% similarities. It made Panasonic wasted millions because the fliers are ended up not being used.
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PurpleOutsider posted...
From what I remember, Nintendo was wise to turn it down. Sony tried to weasel into the contract that they'd own any property on the system. Nintendo wasn't going to give up Mario just for help on a console.
correct

also imagine mario 64 with load times between every jump into a painting and exit
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I don't think the Xbox would have ever got made and Nintendo&Sony could potentially corner the market while both companies make their own respective consoles.

It would have been interesting to see how gaming would have went down had the Nintendo Playstation came to be.

Maybe Sega would still make consoles.
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
I don't think the Xbox would have ever got made and Nintendo&Sony could potentially corner the market while both companies make their own respective consoles.
you seem to think the partnership would have been permanent when it was not going to be

sony had planned to leave nintendo for there own console down the line and keep ownership of every game nintendo made on the collab console
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AceMos posted...
you seem to think the partnership would have been permanent when it was not going to be

sony had planned to leave nintendo for there own console down the line and keep ownership of every game nintendo made on the collab console
I mean if it got made then the partnership could have been permanent, we don't know what would happen. Sure, that was the plan but things do change.
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Ricemills posted...
Sony is a crooked company.

I mean even then, Nintendo of America not too long ago before that was guilty of having a strangle hold on 3rd party developers so that their competition couldn't have their own ports (Like the TurboGrafx 16).
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AceMos posted...
you seem to think the partnership would have been permanent when it was not going to be

sony had planned to leave nintendo for there own console down the line and keep ownership of every game nintendo made on the collab console
Yeah, if Sony got away with it, Nintendo would've been out of the console industry by 2000. N64 would've had no Mario or anything else they would've put on the CD add-on. They'd be in the same boat as Sega, except without all their old IPs.
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I think you guys are exaggerating it a bit.

From what I understand Sony would own the licensing of the disc format for the console. Which is still a massive concession for Nintendo to take as they license out their own formats. It would mean everything went through Sony and they'd cut a cut for every game. They also had the license for the movie and audio formats on the system instead of Nintendo.

It doesn't mean they would be tricked into giving Mario to Sony.
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Punished_Blinx posted...


It doesn't mean they would be tricked into giving Mario to Sony.
sony would not own the mario IP

but they would own any mario game released on the device
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AceMos posted...
sony would not own the mario IP

but they would own any mario game released on the device

Where was this said?

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Punished_Blinx posted...
Where was this said?
thats what is meant when the contract said they would own anything released on the device
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AceMos posted...
thats what is meant when the contract said they would own anything released on the device

No it doesn't

It was, by all accounts, Nintendos skepticism in the viability of CD-ROMs that caused it to give away too much in the contract it signed with Kutaragi. Sony got the rights to create and sell CD-ROM software that would run on the Super NES-compatible machine, which it called the Play Station. It wouldnt have to pay Nintendo any royalties or get its approval for CD-ROM games. This meant that if developers and consumers did embrace CD-ROM gaming on the Super NES, Nintendo wouldnt get a dime off any of those game salesonly the hardware sales.
Why would Nintendo allow this to happen? Maruyama said it was because Sony explicitly told them we were going to focus on everything but video games. In other words, Sonys position was that it would make encyclopedias, home karaoke software, and other non-gaming applications using CD-ROMs, and leave all the gaming to Nintendo. But apparently this was not in the contract itself, and once the ink was on paper, Sony had carte blanche.

https://kotaku.com/the-weird-history-of-the-super-nes-cd-rom-nintendos-mo-1828860861

Nothing about them somehow owning Nintendo published games. They were trying to take Nintendo's cut for third parties. That's what it means by them having ownership over the software. They also didn't need to pay Nintendo anything to release their own games.

It's more accurate to say that they were trying to trick Nintendo into being a third party for their own console.
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Yeah, good guy Sony would never take another companies IP.
I mean, the only reason Insomniac Games released Sunset Overdrive on Xbox was because Microsoft allowed them to keep their IP.
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