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Geiki_Ganger
02/13/2024
10:56 AM
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The two party system has been in place for centuries, but the current division that exists is at an all-time high. Even though the country was fully united shortly after 9/11.

What happened after that got us to where we are today?
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02/13/2024
10:56 AM
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Will_VIIII
02/13/2024
10:58 AM
#3
Geiki_Ganger posted...
The two party system has been in place for centuries, but the current division that exists is at an all-time high. Even though the country was fully united shortly after 9/11.

What happened after that got us to where we are today?
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02/13/2024
10:59 AM
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Vyrulisse
02/13/2024
11:00 AM
#6
I don't think it is really. Not in reality.
Maybe online and in the media but most people just wanna live or have no choice but to live day to day and don't have the luxury of worrying about anything outside of their own lives.
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SaikyoStyle
02/13/2024
11:00 AM
#7
Its more profitable this way.
Taxes, death, and trouble.
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creativerealms
02/13/2024
11:01 AM
#8
Because of the Moral Majority movement. And McCarthyism.
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Squall28
02/13/2024
11:01 AM
#9
echo chambers
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Will_VIIII
02/13/2024
11:01 AM
#10
ImAMarvel posted...
Two party system, Republicans becoming increasingly fascist, various social injustices that have been in place in this country since its inception, Russia and China fanning the flames, etc.
Basically, we're voting against project 2025, voting to restore reproductive rights, voting against the person who was found to be liable of rape, and said same person continues to paraphrase Hitler.

That means voting for Biden. Even abstaining or voting 3rd party enables the above.
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Doom_Art
02/13/2024
11:01 AM
#11
Conservatives formed the "silent majority" starting with the Nixon years and stretching through the 1980s. They had a solid lock on most cultural/social issues in this period.

However, since the 90s, they're slipping. They have a hard time winning elections nationally, as the internet/social media spread, their hold on the culture loosened, the fact that places that usually skew conservatives (more rural-based communities) got absolutely gutted by free trade and the 08 recession, then mix in 20-30 years of radicalization from 24 hour media like Fox and viola
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B18Champ
02/13/2024
11:03 AM
#12
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CRON
02/13/2024
11:05 AM
#13
Smartphones and broadband internet access became affordable in the late '00s-early '10s and suddenly millions and millions of Americans with no media literacy or knowledge of politics became easy targets for misinformation and propaganda campaigns.

The seeds were planted with 24-hour news cycles and post-9/11 paranoia but as awful as it sounds, too many people were given too much access to the internet, on devices that are too affordable and too easy to use.
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legendary_zell
02/13/2024
11:06 AM
#14
People are living entirely different and separate lives and have little insight into how others live because our living areas, media consumption, work, etc is increasingly segregated and atomized. People are living entirely different, incompatible narratives, with each other cast as the villains. And some of these people are doing truly villainous things, but it's mostly for the benefit of the true villains. Capital. All of it is geared towards keeping them on top and keeping social movements that could disrupt them from forming due to a lack of solidarity.
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trappedunderice
02/13/2024
11:06 AM
#15
It's designed that way and working as intended, keep the people divided and distracted so the oligarchs accumulate all the wealth
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texanfan27
02/13/2024
11:08 AM
#17
CRON posted...
Smartphones and broadband internet access became affordable in the late '00s-early '10s and suddenly millions and millions of Americans with no media literacy or knowledge of politics became easy targets for misinformation and propaganda campaigns.

The seeds were planted with 24-hour news cycles and post-9/11 paranoia but as awful as it sounds, too many people were given too much access to the internet, on devices that are too affordable and too easy to use.

would love to see a study on how technology has changed voters and politicians. Likely a reduction of intelligent and informed voters

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Cobra1010
02/13/2024
11:09 AM
#18
It's to keep all the people distracted from the rich getting richer whilst the dumb people fight over each other without realising that they're being robbed.
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SaikyoStyle
02/13/2024
11:11 AM
#19
Cobra1010 posted...
It's to keep all the people distracted from the rich getting richer whilst the dumb people fight over each other without realising that they're being robbed.
When you try to explain this to them, you get called a woke communist.
Taxes, death, and trouble.
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reincarnator07
02/13/2024
11:12 AM
#20
The country is a tiny bit less divided than the time it went to war with itself to decide whether slavery was bad. Not much, but a little.

I'd say a mixture of Reaganomics helping make things suck for non rich people and the abolition of fairness doctrine being in place when alternative news sources started to proliferate. We're seeing groups of people living in totally different worlds with exclusive "facts" and figures. This is why you have people angry at Kenyan Muslim Obama and the coastal elites because "they" want to take our guns and our gas stoves and Jesus!!1!!

They aren't being fed facts, they're being fed propaganda and many lack the critical thinking skills to distinguish lies. This is why you have poor people giving their last dollar to super successful multi billionaire Trump because he needs your help.

A bonus point for the internet exposing people to a lot of information.
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asdf8562
02/13/2024
11:14 AM
#21
Multiple reasons.

One being bad faith actors embracing the crazies into government office which normalized some of the extremes.
SecretBase
02/13/2024
11:18 AM
#22
Urban/rural split along with racial diversity. Republicans starting leveraging these to their benefit in the 1960s, with Democrats following suit in the 1990s, ultimately leading to the division we have now.
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02/13/2024
11:27 AM
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HashtagSEP
02/13/2024
12:05 PM
#26
Vyrulisse posted...
I don't think it is really. Not in reality.
Maybe online and in the media but most people just wanna live or have no choice but to live day to day and don't have the luxury of worrying about anything outside of their own lives.

This is incredibly naive.
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Vyrulisse
02/13/2024
11:38 PM
#27
HashtagSEP posted...
This is incredibly naive.
Nah it's reality.
Twitter extremists and media spamming their bullshit all day every day is not reality.
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WingsOfGood
02/13/2024
11:42 PM
#28
real truth is late stage capitalism

at the end of the day what does the republican party truly embody the spirit of?
unbridled greed

meanwhile the left gets more progressive as late stage capitalism takes into effect seeing the need of greater social supports
Ronaldo
02/13/2024
11:42 PM
#29
There is money to be made in this culture war so disinformation and divisive wording in media is rampant. Not to mention, the people on the "correct" side of politics have absolutely no idea how to speak without looking down on someone or insulting them.
pedro45
02/13/2024
11:43 PM
#30
PBS answered this: journalism died.
So much came with that, but those two words sum it up.
People get news much differently now, so the division is greater. We're gonna have to define what democracy is or the divide may continue to grow.
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sfcalimari
02/13/2024
11:44 PM
#31
Republicans openly want to kill half the population, then wonder why the country is so divided.
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WingsOfGood
02/13/2024
11:45 PM
#32
an example is global warming

why would there be a divide on something not inherently political that is scientific fact?

because oil companies pumped money to trick the public and create that division for their profits
OriginalPlain2
02/13/2024
11:45 PM
#33
Squall28 posted...
echo chambers

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C-zom
02/13/2024
11:46 PM
#34
WingsOfGood posted...
real truth is late stage capitalism

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RamenNoodles
02/13/2024
11:47 PM
#35
It was all Fox News. They started going crazy 24/7 attacking democrats in election seasons. Then they started doing it all year and started just straight up lying.
When an average person who watches Fox News often hears how democrats are destroying our country literally told hundreds of times a day and told how bad they are, then count every day for years it literally becomes brainwashing.
SilvosForever
02/13/2024
11:47 PM
#36
Millions of 50 somethings addicted to watching Fox News every hour of every day and having a completely fucked up worldview as a result.
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Will_VIII
02/13/2024
11:53 PM
#37
Ronaldo posted...
There is money to be made in this culture war so disinformation and divisive wording in media is rampant. Not to mention, the people on the "correct" side of politics have absolutely no idea how to speak without looking down on someone or insulting them.
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Number090684
02/14/2024
12:59 AM
#38
When has it never not been divided?
pokeweeb30
02/14/2024
01:12 AM
#39
SilvosForever posted...
Millions of 50 somethings addicted to watching Fox News every hour of every day and having a completely fucked up worldview as a result.
Fox News only has about 3 million viewers. Their influence is overstated.

But more importantly: Fox News wouldnt be popular if they didnt tell people what they already want to hear.
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KI_Simpson
02/14/2024
01:17 AM
#40
Conservatives haven't legitimately won control of the federal government in decades, and they're throwing a tantrum. And who they pick when the corrupt system gives them undemocratic control has made people realize that pretending they have a legitimate perspective is too dangerous.
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TheSavageDragon
02/14/2024
01:18 AM
#41
Vyrulisse posted...
Nah it's reality.
Twitter extremists and media spamming their bullshit all day every day is not reality.

Only if you ignore the fact that millions of people repeating that bullshit make it reality for everyone.
You'd have to either be willfully ignorant or just straight up blind and deaf to ignore thousands to millions of people repeating the rhetoric that LGBTQ people are grooming your children.
To people with media literacy it's BS, to others it's reality. And they do their absolute best to make sure it's your reality too.
Raiden2909
02/14/2024
01:24 AM
#42
The media has spent the last few decades doing their best to muddle the actual news while bombarding people with opinions passed off as news and facts, Fox news especially has been guilty of this while also trying their best to slowly demonize their political opponents and paint them as "THE ENEMY" to their viewers at first starting off pretty low key about it then ramping it up over the years
EPR-radar
02/14/2024
05:49 AM
#43
It started when some rich Republican sociopaths got permanently pissed off by Federal taxes in the New Deal era.

These assholes stewed in their own juices until the civil rights realignment showed them a way to get votes for their agenda of cutting taxes for the rich by pandering to the resentments of bigots 'betrayed' by the Democratic party.

The Reagan election in 1980 was the first big victory of this new, proto-fascist version of the GOP. Since then the misrule by Gingrich, W Bush, Trump and various other worthless GOP assholes has mostly amounted to working out the details of a transformation of the party from proto-fascist to fascist.
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IceCreamOnStero
02/14/2024
05:50 AM
#44
Geiki_Ganger posted...
Even though the country was fully united shortly after 9/11.

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EPR-radar
02/14/2024
04:40 PM
#46
B18Champ posted...
Make America Great Again (except Minnesota)
I see you're a big fan of the Republican party.

What is it about the party that attracts you?

Is it the aggressive stupidity, the bigotry, performative religious zealotry by hypocrites, tax cuts only for the rich, and/or submitting to Putin?

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Bleuets
02/14/2024
04:44 PM
#47
Seems like each side just blames the other side. I try and stay away from politics.
Prismsblade
02/14/2024
04:46 PM
#48
Many things but Frankly I think us not having a president the majority of the country supported in our life time I think was a massive contributing factor.
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DrizztLink
02/14/2024
04:47 PM
#49
Vyrulisse posted...
I don't think it is really. Not in reality.
Maybe online and in the media but most people just wanna live or have no choice but to live day to day and don't have the luxury of worrying about anything outside of their own lives.
And the way we're going, LGBT people aren't going to have the luxury of thinking about anything except their own lives at a basic survival level.

Because one guy wants to erase all their protections and start rounding them up, but the other guy is slightly older so it's apparently about the same.
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EPR-radar
02/14/2024
04:47 PM
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Bleuets posted...
Seems like each side just blames the other side. I try and stay away from politics.
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