Thats fucking ridiculous.You're better off not arguing with the defenders about it. No one said they're not still great playing games, but considering it's the same title split up 3 ways across a decade basically, the fact that you have separate save data between each of them is incredibly stupid. People gave examples of games like .hack, mass effect, & many others that carried things over between games in the same series & it doesn't matter to people. Gamers take whatever they're given without complaint, even though based on Rebirth's numerous issues(performance being one of them despite being PS5 exclusive this time instead of PS4/5), people just don't care about the state of Square Enix's releases
What's the worth of that money when the decision actively dilutes your main big IP. If they continue this Sony will eventually stop moneyhatting because guess what, no one will care about it anymore.
However, there are well over 80 different Final Fantasy games between main games, spin-offs, one-offs, etc so it isn't even like it's diluting FF at large. The franchise is insanely large.
Did it though?
It has a rich history, but it's a dying series now. FF used to sell systems
What's the worth of that money when the decision actively dilutes your main big IP. If they continue this Sony will eventually stop moneyhatting because guess what, no one will care about it anymore.
It benefited, heavily, from being on the best selling consoles of the generation.
FF7 sold 'over 10 million' copies on a system that sold 100 million consoles. Which is impressive, not to downplay, but that isn't really 'system mover' per se . FFX, as a series, sold a little over 20 million copies between originals and remasters. Even if that was, say, 15 million for FFX1 on the PS2, that's still a 10% install base on the PS2.
You are right in that the 'flubs' have hampered fan interest, but you could also just chalk it up to the fact that the gaming market is way larger and things that were impressive and could sell copies back in the 90s and 00s, just aren't anymore. FF7's cutscenes were impressive for the time. the sheer size of the world and story was also impressive given the time. Same for FFX.
Was everyone here complaining about it being a three parter born after they announced this? Its been known since the beginning and been talked about ad nauseum. You're either playing stupid or are just dumb lol
Sony moneyhatting Final Fantasy may make Square money in the short term, but its slowly killing the Final Fantasy brand because less people have an opportunity to play it and it is slowly fading from the cultural zeitgeist.Only thing anyone can do.....just relax and wait until square-enix is ready to talk about it. There is also been updates on whatever physical only numbers its doing in japan that implies its doing well. At least enough to be the number 1 selling game for march in japan.
Also, the 2 million sales number is just an estimate, but what you are supposed to do when a company has radio silence on how well their game is doing? Typically companies love to broadcast how successful their games are. Its not unreasonable to think this game isn't doing as well as Square thought it would do.
Sony moneyhatting Final Fantasy may make Square money in the short term, but its slowly killing the Final Fantasy brand because less people have an opportunity to play it and it is slowly fading from the cultural zeitgeist.
Also, the 2 million sales number is just an estimate, but what you are supposed to do when a company has radio silence on how well their game is doing? Typically companies love to broadcast how successful their games are. Its not unreasonable to think this game isn't doing as well as Square thought it would do.
Only thing anyone can do.....just relax and wait until square-enix is ready to talk about it. There is also been updates on whatever physical only numbers its doing in japan that implies its doing well. At least enough to be the number 1 selling game for march in japan.
You're better off not arguing with the defenders about it. No one said they're not still great playing games, but considering it's the same title split up 3 ways across a decade basically, the fact that you have separate save data between each of them is incredibly stupid. People gave examples of games like .hack, mass effect, & many others that carried things over between games in the same series & it doesn't matter to people. Gamers take whatever they're given without complaint, even though based on Rebirth's numerous issues(performance being one of them despite being PS5 exclusive this time instead of PS4/5), people just don't care about the state of Square Enix's releasesThis. Square has been dead to me since at least XIII released. The fact that they tried to split and sell us the remake in 3 parts is insane, if anything I'm glad it's not doing well. Maybe they'll think twice about not pulling this crap again.
Look for the first week sales for Part 1 my dude.What is the point of trying to gauge rebirth's success based off remake's 1st week sales on the playstation 4, a console with a way larger install base at that point in time and changing trends where more and more gamers is going digital? Again, these are only physical sales that is being counted here. We all know damn well that every year more gamers is purchasing digital games compared to physical discs. Not only that, we also obviously know there is nowhere near that many PS5s out there and it very recently got to that point where sales is picking up since those that want one can actually get one now.
Look for the first week sales for Part 1 my dude.
But Tifas boobs!Not when theyre artificially locked to a platform most people dont have. Ill get it for PC, but I still havent played Remake, so Im in no hurry and itll probably be cheaper by the time I get to it anyway.
Those didnt save the game?
But Tifas boobs!
What is the point of trying to gauge rebirth's success based off remake's 1st week sales on the playstation 4, a console with a way larger install base at that point in time and changing trends where more and more gamers is going digital?
My post is a response to the tweet you posted framing FFVII as a modest success. And, mind you, that is a title that people have been clamoring to see a remake of for well over a decade. It's supposed to move consoles. And yet as of last Thursday, it has moved less than 320K physical copies while other majorly successful titles have strong physical sales in addition to their strong digital sales.Me posting that tweet wasn't necessarily meant to say something like "see, look, its selling gangbusters!". More so showing that whatever is going on it isn't absolutely doom and gloom like some is trying to imply and thus everyone just needs to wait to see what square-enix post about it. For a game to be a consistent number 1 in their region when we all know the switch is the most dominate platform to game on over there and just counting disc sales when again we all know that digital purchasing is just increasing more and more each year means that while we don't know if the game is a smashing success, it also obviously isn't some total bomb. Its just.....existing, and we do know that at least when it comes to PSN sales rankings its been at the top or near the top of the lists for both the stand alone and the dual version with remake.
Was everyone here complaining about it being a three parter born after they announced this? Its been known since the beginning and been talked about ad nauseum. You're either playing stupid or are just dumb lolIt's been known for a while, but not since the beginning. When the remake was first announced, they straight up admitted that they didn't know how many parts it was gonna be yet.
Was everyone here complaining about it being a three parter born after they announced this?Yes.
Wait for square to announce if it did well or not, it's really not on our job to actually know. But yes of course FF7 Rebirth is going to sell less than FF7Remake because Rebirth is a PS5 exclusive.
Only thing anyone can do.....just relax and wait until square-enix is ready to talk about it. There is also been updates on whatever physical only numbers its doing in japan that implies its doing well. At least enough to be the number 1 selling game for march in japan.
https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1778268214520328273
Even with that though, its not enough and you have some people twisting this as a proof that its selling worse than final fantasy 16 in japan......major roadblock in that being no one is stopping to think that maybe in the time period between FF16's release and now that more japanese final fantasy fans have simply opted to buy a digital version since all famitsu does is count disc sales, lol.
yeah man unlike those days of yore where the first 10 games being multi platform. Come on man. Final fantasy has never been multi platform outside of a small number of titles. It just feels that way now because decades on most of the earlier games have now been made multi platform but that wasnt the case at release date. Hell a lot of the games didnt even come out worldwide back then.
Part 3 will sell even less than rebirth. Its part of the problem of splitting the game into multiple parts. They will progressively sell less copies.
Given the number of people waiting for all 3 parts, and an increase in the PS5 user base I imagine part 3 will definitely outsell part 2sequels always sell less the farther into the series you get. People drop off, and it is harder to get new audience to jump into the middle and the commitment to catch up becomes a larger and larger barrier to entry. Its just common sense