I'd love to show him some gay artist that got into art school.And then send him back to Hell.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80756309#12To follow up on this, let's consider why Noem is telling this particular story at this time.
@FortuneCookie
How's that for motivation? Conservative VP hopeful shot and killed a puppy because she didn't think she could re-home it. Or is literal puppy slaughter not enough motivation?
Help me out here because if voting against fascism isn't enough maybe we can play to your empathy with pets
Hypothetically speaking, let's say Hitler clawed out of Hell onto Earth. He wants to continue where he left off before he did the world a favor and painted the walls with his brains.
Someone gives you a huge ass gun and tells you to shoot Demon Hitler in his bitch face.
Do you shoot him? Are you like "Fuck yeah, let's send Hitler back to Hell!"
.... or do you need more motivation? For some reason.
To follow up on this, let's consider why Noem is telling this particular story at this time.
She is doing it as part of her bid to be Trump's VP pick -- one psychopath calling out to another.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80756309#12
@FortuneCookie
How's that for motivation? Conservative VP hopeful shot and killed a puppy because she didn't think she could re-home it. Or is literal puppy slaughter not enough motivation?
Help me out here because if voting against fascism isn't enough maybe we can play to your empathy with pets
I'm not going to let a dog outrank a Palestinian human being.
If Biden wants my vote, he can publicly announce that we will not be sending funds or troops to help Israel's government in their ethnic cleansing.
I'm in fucking South Carolina and I'll still be voting blue. What's your excuse nek?
Let me make it clear I don't *want* the GOP to win.
But you'll let it outrank LGBT humans?
Help me out of here brother. Also, safe to say that's a "no" then? Killing of puppies isn't a place where you can draw a line?
Cool.
But you'll also do literally nothing to prevent it so the result is the same either way.
Let me make it clear I don't *want* the GOP to win.
I actually see it the opposite way around. Hope and inspiration is great when it happens, but it is fickle and it's a rare talent for candidates to actually be good at campaigning on it (and delivering on hope and change is even more difficult, given the reality of the Republican menace).
What is it going to take to peacefully defeat the GOP and get back to something resembling normal politics in the US? The only answer I can see is the GOP consistently losing in national elections, to the point where it really does have to reform or die.
Which is the easier sales job?
A) running on hope and change for 12+ years with little/no actual progress to show for it because the GOP is still strong enough to block progress at least that long, or
B) trying to grow a solid D base for 12+ years that understands that the highest priority is opposing the GOP menace every November, in every election, at every level, and that all hope of future progress is contingent on first dealing with the Republican menace? Sure, it looks like running only on "Republicans are awful", but that is the truth. It is also true that Republicans have a lot of power, and it's going to take a long, hard campaign to do something about that.
I said this before and it was ignored. I also guarantee I've fought harder against fascism, genocide, and the loss of rights than you ever have and will.
I don't know what to say to this post. I think you misread me.
I'm not letting the puppy appeal sway my decision one way or another
If you're pitting quality of human life against quality of human life, I'm sorry, but I can't treat the children of Palestine as sacrificial lambs to protect people in America.
Whatever is going to happen is going to happen and my vote isn't going to change that. If we're facing fascism, they're not going to walk away because they lose a vote anyway. They've tried to overturn democracy once already and, as a party, they've grown bolder in the years since.
Let's do some math here, shall we?
I don't weigh lives in terms of mathematics. If I push one button and it kills one innocent person or I push the other button and it ends all life on Earth, it's the same to me.
I don't want any innocent blood on my hands. If I have to align myself with genocide to prevent greater genocide, I'll sit back and let what happen will.
Fuck the Greater Good.
I can't make that any plainer. I will die and let the whole fucking world die before I agree to human sacrifice in the name of numbers or consequences.
You're willing to let the world die in order to maintain your moral code.
That isn't a virtue. Quite the opposite in fact.
Say you're tied up in a chair. Someone is slowly approaching you with a Chainsaw with the intention of brutally murdering you.
I'm also in the room. I have a gun and can shoot the man with the Chainsaw dead no problem.
Should I save you? Yes or no?
No baby. It's just you.
But I'm a pacifist. So I'll let the Chainsaw man kill you. Is that okay?
"I don't care enough to vote, but you can be sure I care enough to explain at length why I don't care enough to vote."
- An intelligent person (?)
It would be of cold comfort to me if you refused to save my life because your moral compass wouldn't allow you to shoot the man who intended to murder me. But I do baseline respect that kind of conviction.Shoot the chainsaw out of his hand!
Somehow, I don't see the people of Palestine as collectively being compared to a man with a chainsaw and murderous intent.
It would be of cold comfort to me if you refused to save my life because your moral compass wouldn't allow you to shoot the man who intended to murder me. But I do baseline respect that kind of conviction.
FortuneCookie, I just want to say that I, as a brown/Muslim person, absolutely do not believe you care a single iota about Gaza. So please, shut the fuck up.
But why did I vote for Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020 if I'm a conservative?
But here's a thought:I don't want your goddamn vote. I want you to shut up about not voting to reduce the amount of defeatist GOP-serving drivel out there.
If the vote is this important, and it's all about the numbers, stop wasting your time trying to get me to vote. You could convince a dozen non-voters before you could convince me. That's 11 more votes for the greater good.
I don't believe in collective consciousness. I don't think my vote would have a butterfly effect and subconsciously lead others to get up and vote. My vote is one blue vote in a red state. It's like pissing into the ocean and expecting it to turn the sea yellow.
"I don't care enough to vote, but you can be sure I care enough to explain at length why I don't care enough to vote."A Republican or a useful idiot for Republicans. Those are the only options.
- An intelligent person (?)
Making decent decisions 4 and 8 years ago do not absolve you of not doing the same thing this year. I held the door open for someone this morning, doesn't mean I get to punch someone in the face tonight.
You are either against the rise in fascism, or you are complacent and culpable.
Perhaps some more reason based arguments will have a better effect?It is a reason based argument to point out that Republicans are a menace precisely because they are scapegoating minorities and taking peoples' civil and human rights away.
Existential dread
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b1629c28.jpg
This but orange
I wish y'all took this attitude and channeled it towards things that would actually help save/revive democracy instead of badgering holdouts online. Do something to hold the President accountable so he gets more votes, go start a democratic union, go protest, organize a boycott, organize a political education or study group, gather signatures for an initiative or recall, picket, give a speech, DO something, anything.Do you think nobody here does that?
Don't just tell people to vote and call it a day, do something effective that sparks democracy
Perhaps some more reason based arguments will have a better effect?
girls that have been raped have to travel state lines to get a rape baby aborted.And then get arrested.
Okay, so overall you probably wouldn't especially like it if I let you die.
One more scenario.
What if you, a bunch of babies, your family and other loved ones were tied up as well. Chainsaw has plenty enough gas to go through all of you. Again, I can choose to stop this madman if I want to.
But I'm pacifist. I don't like killing or seeing people die.
I'd need to kill the man to stop him from doing unspeakable things.
Should I? Yes or No?
(The man with the Chainsaw is in no way related to the current war going on. He's just a psychopath who enjoys murder)