It's canon to the games, set after all of themThis is what I've heard as well. Apparently it's messing with some lore from older games but idk.
This is what I've heard as well. Apparently it's messing with some lore from older games but idk.
It doesn't mess with any lore. Some purists raged that it did, but they were proven wrong in fairly short order.no, they weren't "proven" wrong. more like they were told "trust us, it's all still canon, we didn't mess with any of the lore" without any actual explanation about how some things about the show aren't contradicting some things about the games.
no, they weren't "proven" wrong. more like they were told "trust us, it's all still canon, we didn't mess with any of the lore" without any actual explanation about how some things about the show aren't contradicting some things about the games.
It doesn't mess with any lore. Some purists raged that it did, but they were proven wrong in fairly short order.I'm only on episode 6 but
no, they weren't "proven" wrong. more like they were told "trust us, it's all still canon, we didn't mess with any of the lore" without any actual explanation about how some things about the show aren't contradicting some things about the games.
I'm only on episode 6 butthe brotherhood should not be nearly as large as it is in the desert, by the end of New Vegas the BoS was all but wiped out on the West Coast
no, they weren't "proven" wrong. more like they were told "trust us, it's all still canon, we didn't mess with any of the lore" without any actual explanation about how some things about the show aren't contradicting some things about the games.No, they explained it. Y'all just jumped to conclusions after misinterpreting a timeline on a chalk board.
So the lesser Fallout devs are retconning multiple things and people are just buying it?Obsidian didn't work on the show.
They are from the east cost, the giant ship is the same one in fallout 4.
So the lesser Fallout devs are retconning multiple things and people are just buying it?
So the Brotherhood ending of 4 is canon? That's some bullshit.
They are just little things, nothing super lore breaking honestly.the things i'm talking about are the things that are mentioned in post #11, and they are not little things. the timeline of events surrounding NV and the show is a pretty big matter. and the second thing is super lore breaking, because it contradicts the way that all
Obsidian didn't work on the show.Nobody actually thinks Bethesda FO games are better than New Vegas
the things i'm talking about are the things that are mentioned in post #11, and they are not little things. the timeline of events surrounding NV and the show is a pretty big matter. and the second thing is super lore breaking, because it contradicts the way that allghoul settlements and ghoul characters have been portrayed up until now. there has never been a ghoul character portrayed as having to take a drug to stave off going feral. that just has never been a thing.
Nobody actually thinks Bethesda FO games are better than New Vegas
No, they explained it. Y'all just jumped to conclusions after misinterpreting a timeline on a chalk board.no, nobody "explained" it. Todd Howard in an interview said that "everything that happened in previous games, including New Vegas, happened [in the show]", and
Obsidian didn't work on the show.and yeah, i can't believe i really just wasted all that time and effort typing up that rebuttal just for there to be this hot take
and yeah, i can't believe i really just wasted all that time and effort typing up that rebuttal just for there to be this hot take
Yeah,lol, nice dodge
What you gonna do about it?
Fallout 76 is better than New Vegas in every way.
Better combat, better writing, better world, an incredible building system, and there's multiplayer.
New Vegas was a great game, sure but it's not 2010 anymore. I'd even argue Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas.
lol, nice dodge
no, nobody "explained" it. Todd Howard in an interview said that "everything that happened in previous games, including New Vegas, happened [in the show]", andthat the bomb falls [in Shady Sands] just after the events of New Vegas", and when asked if "the Fall of Shady Sands doesn't necessarily mean the nuke", he said "right". so, none of that explains what the "Fall of Shady Sands" is supposed to refer to if it doesn't refer to the very obvious possibility, and it doesn't explain how Shady Sands could have "fell" about 4 years prior to the events of New Vegas and absolutely nobody in the Mojave Wasteland had heard about it.
that link makes no sense.It could mean a political fall or something similar to the fall of Rome, the start of everything going wrong. It is linked to the start of the war with the legion. Thus the fall of shady sands.
edit: found this link explaining it with meke detail. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/avHTwpsdA6
that link makes no sense.it doesn't even mention Shady Sands once, when the event is specifically called "The Fall of Shady Sands". why would it be called that if it was triggered by an event not even in California? what would that have to do with Shady Sands? it would relate to the NCR in general, yes, but not Shady Sands specifically. there is no logical connection there.
Shady sands is the NCR, it is also the capital.
uh, no, it is not. Shady Sands is just the capital, in the contemporaneous period of the NV and show timeline. the only time "Shady Sands" and "NCR" were interchangeable was in the time period of Fallout 2.
The other is that ghouls just don't work that way. In the show,they all need a special drug to keep them from going feral. In the games, they can go for centuries and be fine, it's just luck of the draw.
Hey...
Even people in the Fallout universe lies or remember the wrong dates.
Just Saiyan.
The ways ghouls "work" have changed over the course of the Fallout series, and this is probably one the least drastic things they've done. The Fallout show takes place after all the games, so I don't think it's that far fetched to believethat someone either eventually developed a new drug or maybe discovered a side effect of an existing one to help stave off the feral condition
The ways ghouls "work" have changed over the course of the Fallout series, and this is probably one the least drastic things they've done.The Fallout show takes place after all the games, so I don't think it's that far fetched to believe that someone either eventually developed a new drug or maybe discovered a side effect of an existing one to help stave off the feral condition
Yeah, it's definitely something they could explain, but the show presents it as just a natural fact of ghouls.Their is a theory that it is rad-x, slowing down the effects of radiation in their brain. You are right in that there is no specific thing in how they work and feralism can happen at anytime. Maybe it could also be that once the drug is taken you have to be on it constantly or the withdraws can make you feral. I am now no longer against it and excited to see where it goes.
The only egregious problem isthe ghoul drug.
I'm not particularly pleased withthe state of the NCR but there's still I'm sure more info coming on that in season 2.
In all honesty, in all honesty. The fact that these are literally the only two issues of the show, is just a testament to how much love they put into it. How well it was directed, wrote, and acted is astounding. I think people have a couple more or so minor issues, but if this is what we got compared to almost any other videogame show. Consider us lucky as fuck and that the bad plot points, while annoying, can be looked over or head canoned or even if it is a huge issue, I'm sure everyone is still interested into what season 2 does. That alone is epic.
Yeah,Pass whatever it is you're hitting
What you gonna do about it?
Fallout 76 is better than New Vegas in every way.
Better combat, better writing, better world, an incredible building system, and there's multiplayer.
New Vegas was a great game, but it's not 2010 anymore. I'd even argue Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas.
That's how they are using it in the show.no it's not
This is what I've heard as well. Apparently it's messing with some lore from older games but idk.It hasnt messed with any of the lore aside from some minor timeline changes. All the games still happened in the show.
i was gonna bring that up but tbh i can't remember if it's been concretely established that it willAnd I don't buy the Rad-X/Radaway theory because Maximus' squire friend gets turned into a ghoul by taking the drug.