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CountCorvinus posted...
When Joe Biden loses, the only person who will be at fault is Joe Biden.

and all the people that vote for Trump/don't vote
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thronedfire2 posted...
and all the people that vote for Trump/don't vote

Nah.
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Antifar posted...
I don't think the tact you're taking is the best way to accomplish that.
I don't have the time to care about tact. The anti-Israel protesters aren't using tact. Are they wrong? No, and neither am I. Tact is for people with no real struggle, no actual skin in the game. If someone only agrees with something if they hear it the right way, they never really agreed with it.
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CountCorvinus posted...
Nah.

yeah

I've seen enough of your posts to know you're just bullshitting anyway
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so this is the better guy than trump
We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought.
The liberals that fantasize about putting leftists or non-voters in camps if Biden loses are probably not liberals and just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.
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HighSeraph posted...
I mean I'm not sure why you'd expect a leader of a government to say otherwise.
This right here. I don't think any leader is gonna go on TV and day "Unhappy? Fuck shit up my dude. Go flip cars. Get your point across.". Now my exaggerative tone is intentional so someone doesn't try to nitpick, but I think it gets the point across.
lderivedx posted...
The liberals that fantasize about putting leftists or non-voters in camps if Biden loses are probably not liberals and just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.
Bruh who the fuck is doing this

Nobody here thats for damn sure
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CountCorvinus posted...
When Joe Biden loses, the only person who will be at fault is Joe Biden.
Unironically true.
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Nukazie posted...
so this is the better guy than trump

What do you guys think Biden should have said instead?
I think he shouldn't have mentioned disorder. Any protest is going to be disorderly to an extent, so it's just not reasonable to be honest.
I would have liked more call outs to the counter protestors who caused physical violence, rather than leaving the broad statement.
But in general, it's a pretty benign statement and what you would expect. Most normies like statements like this!!

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1786052034078068977?t=mEwHPsjJWongux4LUaneTg&s=19

Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. ... Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes ... none of this is peaceful protest

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lderivedx posted...
The liberals that fantasize about putting leftists or non-voters in camps if Biden loses are probably not liberals and just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.


lmao

shut the fuck up
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pazzy posted...
I've never understood the argument of "protest, but not too loudly." You may as well tell people to stop. At least you're not bullshitting.

The wise protester knows when to push, and when to shove. Send the strongest message they can, without letting critics discredit them as the aggressor.
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emblem-man posted...
Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes

None of those things are violent.
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Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. ... Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes ... none of this is peaceful protest
Sit-ins are definitely a part of peaceful protest.
lderivedx posted...
None of those things are violent.
You're kidding right?
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Full_Pokedex posted...
You're kidding right?

No.
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lderivedx posted...
None of those things are violent.

so you'd say the first three are peaceful, then?
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There is a deceptive amount of posts missing.

Who's 101?
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emblem-man posted...
Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. ... Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes ... none of this is peaceful protest

Trespassing in their own colleges... hmm. I would have loved sit in.
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Cemith posted...
There is a deceptive amount of posts missing.

Who's 101?

thenerdfire2
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lderivedx posted...
The liberals that fantasize about putting leftists or non-voters in camps if Biden loses are probably not liberals and just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.
LOL. Liberals don't want to put people in camps, and don't have the power to do that even if they wanted to.

Meanwhile, if the Mango Menace wins, the "Genocide Joe" clowns will be the first ones to fire up the ovens in service to their Orange Overlord.
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ironman2009 posted...
thenerdfire2

hey

fuck you buddy
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lderivedx posted...
None of those things are violent.

They aren't peaceful protests methods. For example vandalism is not a peaceful protests method.

Some of those are civil disobedience, which is a method of protesting. But usually it's a protest method in which you purposely break an unjust law, and expect to get arrested for it, to show the unfairness.
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thronedfire2 posted...
hey

fuck you buddy

Hm. No it isn't you. Must be someone you quoted. I mean you may have posted the message but someone else has me blocked.

Oh well, probably not missing much
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emblem-man posted...


They aren't peaceful protests methods. For example vandalism is not a peaceful protests method.

How should they protest, what you make you guys happy. Again this reminds me of when Republicans complained about black man taking a knee.
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Cemith posted...
Hm. No it isn't you. Must be someone you quoted. I mean you may have posted the message but someone else has me blocked.

Oh well, probably not missing much
CountCorvinus is quoted in #101.
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Cemith posted...
Hm. No it isn't you. Must be someone you quoted. I mean you may have posted the message but someone else has me blocked.

Oh well, probably not missing much

oh, I was quoting and calling out CountCorvinius for being a well known bad faith poster
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EPR-radar posted...
Meanwhile, if the Mango Menace wins, the "Genocide Joe" clowns will be the first ones to fire up the ovens in service to their Orange Overlord.

Yeah stuff like this is what I was talking about.
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cjsdowg posted...
Trespassing in their own colleges... hmm. I would have loved sit in.

I mean, it is possible to trespass on your own college, especially if they have policies about encampment or for example, when they broke into that building in Columbia.

I don't think it was good for them to call the cops on the kids on the quad regardless of the school policies though. It only amplified the issue.
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mistymermaid posted...
Property damage is more a side effect. Emotions flare, it happens.
"People can commit massive property damage. It just happens sometimes you know?
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thronedfire2 posted...
oh, I was quoting and calling out CountCorvinius for being a well known bad faith poster

Oh I think I recognize that name.

Oh well, if they've blocked me and are a routinely bad faith poster I'll chuck it in the Tenlaar bucket of posters with presumably bad opinions.

Thanks.
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Antifar posted...
I don't think the tact you're taking is the best way to accomplish that.

Yea she should apologize to everyone for getting angry that a bunch of clowns are going to let the guy who wants to murder her walk into the presidency
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cjsdowg posted...
How should they protest, what you make you guys happy. Again this reminds me of when Republicans complained about black man taking a knee.

Taking care to paint the counter-protesters, or the police, as the violent groups.
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cjsdowg posted...
How should they protest, what you make you guys happy. Again this reminds me of when Republicans complained about black man taking a knee.

People should protest all they want. It's good to protest. It's probably ideal to protest in a manner that doesn't involve vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes.

I think they should protest in a method that has insane message discipline that minimizes the chance of others making the protest look bad. I read that one of the schools had a media liaison that they'd point media towards. That's an awesome idea and allows the movement to have tight message discipline so that random protestors don't say something stupid unwittingly.

You'll still have media sources use that as a way of painting the protest in a bad light, for example some then said that the protestors not speaking showed how scared they were or something. But that's a stupid criticism. People will always criticize a protest, but that doesn't mean you throw your hands up and just do anything.

The general populace is full of idiots who don't like rowdiness. I think protests should be done with that in mind. Maybe I'm just incredibly pessimistic

But as I said before, I don't even think most people like protests in general. Their support of a protest depends solely on if they approve of the cause. If they do, they'll give large leeway to the negatives and if they don't, they'll want it shutdown regardless.

Anyway, I'm just saying. If you break into a building, I don't get why you'd act all surprised if someone says you're engaging in vandalism.
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mistymermaid posted...
Taking care to paint the counter-protesters, or the police, as the violent groups.
You kinda want to make yourself look like the victim at times to gain public sympathy to be honest.

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emblem-man posted...
People should protest all they want....

First thank you for the long post. It took time to write that and I don't want to discount it. However you really didn't say how they should protest. Like specially what should they do. Remember a school canceled commencement because there was going to be a pro-Pal speech.
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Cemith posted...
Oh I think I recognize that name.

Oh well, if they've blocked me and are a routinely bad faith poster I'll chuck it in the Tenlaar bucket of posters with presumably bad opinions.

Thanks.
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emblem-man posted...
You kinda want to make yourself look like the victim at times to gain public sympathy to be honest.

True, and the protest has particular goals in mind. Taking down monuments to oppression is civil disobedience with more of a message than just breaking stuff.
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cjsdowg posted...
First thank you for the long post. It took time to write that and I don't want to discount it. However you really didn't say how they should protest. Like specially what should they do. Remember a school canceled commencement because there was going to be a pro-Pal speech.

I'm fine with how they're protecting now tbh, but I would encourage tighter message discipline in regards to chants and signs, keeping the protest in the outdoor quad space. Just, don't make it easy for the right wing.

Don't mistake my criticism for disagreement with the overall protest. I just end up thinking there's like, low hanging fruit in regards to things that could be done better. But I see how my posts can sound like constant finger pointing and I apologize for that, but it's mainly me doing armchair quarterbacking.
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Republicans love protests in countries they hate but hate it when it happens closer to home.

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Liberal idea of a protest is basically the Macy's Day Parade. Vietnam, Civil Rights, Stonewall etc. were all "disorderly" protests.

These students were peacefully protesting and were met with violence by the police. Police that were called by their schools. Fuck a broken window the police are breaking students' faces with non-lethal rounds. Counter protesters are throwing explosives into encampment. Boo hoo someone broke a door or whatever.
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
You arent missing much.

Can't say I'm surprised.
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Liberal idea of a protest is basically the Macy's Day Parade. Vietnam, Civil Rights, Stonewall etc. were all "disorderly" protests.

These students were peacefully protesting and were met with violence by the police. Police that were called by their schools. Fuck a broken window the police are breaking students' faces with non-lethal rounds. Counter protesters are throwing explosives into encampment. Boo hoo someone broke a door or whatever.

Pretty much what I was getting at. Most of the little things broken aren't really a deliberate part of the protest.
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People might not have liked Biden's milquetoast response, but just remember this little gem that Trump dropped during the Black Lives Matter protests:

"When the looting starts, the shooting starts."

Yeah, I know "...but Trump." Still, Biden is handling this a billion times better than the Fanta Fascist did, and I'm critical of how he has been handling the situation in Gaza. Still voting for him, and blue all the way down ballot in November. Because Trump CANNOT BE GIVEN A SECOND TERM!
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Deyestus posted...
People might not have liked Biden's milquetoast response, but just remember this little gem that Trump dropped during the Black Lives Matter protests:

"When the looting starts, the shooting starts."

Yeah, I know "...but Trump." Still, Biden is handling this a billion times better than the Fanta Fascist did, and I'm critical of how he has been handling the situation in Gaza. Still voting for him, and blue all the way down ballot in November. Because Trump CANNOT BE GIVEN A SECOND TERM!
Like I said, its easy for us armchair activists to say that. But those people close to whats happening probably feel 400X more hatred towards this administration. And that kind of hate is incredibly illogical and irrational. This rhetoric does not work on them.
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luigi33 posted...
Like I said, its easy for us armchair activists to say that. But those people close to whats happening probably feel 400X more hatred towards this administration. And that kind of hate is incredibly illogical and irrational. This rhetoric does not work on them.

IRL I never hear the end of it. Local chuds blaming issues like grocery prices on Biden, without ever substantiating their claims.
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if biden loses it won't be because of his stance on israel/palestine or this perfectly reasonable statement (the exact statement obama made), it will be because of dipshit 'centrists' who are 'concerned' about the economy despite this economy being better than fat donny left it. young people and twitter hypocrites almost never vote, and the ones that do will likely be motivated to vote for women's bodily autonomy and against trump installing himself as a redneck cult leader for life
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