Fenriswolf posted...
You're the one moving the goalposts by dismissing things because you personally dislike them.
I prefer PC FPS games like Quake, but that doesn't mean Halo is unpopular nor that it wasn't one of the most played online multiplayer back in the day. Remember PS2's expensive HDD and modem add-ons that barely anyone used?
And if achievements are a gimmick then why did Sony and Valve copy it?
My question hasnt changed, you just didnt answer it sufficiently. Instead you tried to change my question to what did Microsoft popularise, even then you got most of that wrong. Attributing HDDs to Microsoft is a weird meltdown even for you and HDDs in consoles doesnt answer my question