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FunWithAFryPan posted...
I think the cop is a dumbass for latching onto a car like a fucking leech.

Sure, but its more idiotic to drag a cop 20 yards when hes telling you stop and not expect any assault charges.
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
You sure do lick a lot of boots to be signing off your posts with ACAB

Well, if anything, that's what this thread has lead me to believe.

The guy that drove on the median to avoid traffic caused by an accident WITH A FATALITY is in the right, and the officer attempting to stop him from causing more traffic problems by driving somewhere he was directed not to go was in the wrong.
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bigblu89 posted...


He didn't know there was an accident and that it was an actual Police Officer and not club security, so there was a "misunderstanding" when the officer repeatedly asked him to stop, and Scheffler just kept driving into the club, not stopping till he got into the lot.


Even if it was just a security guard, that gives him no free pass to completely disregard the guy trying to pull him over. You would think a normal person would abide by security of the club. Sounds to me like since hes rich and privileged he thought he can just disregard normal security, he found out the hard way when it turned out to be a cop.
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bigblu89 posted...
That was also the account of the ESPN reporter that was there and the first one to report it.
Jeff Darlington's account was that the police officer attached himself to the vehicle and Scheffler drove another 10 yards before stopping.

Frankly, 10 yards of stopping distance is a pretty impressive reaction time for someone who just had a psychopath throw themselves at the car.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Jeff Darlington's account was that the police officer attached himself to the vehicle and Scheffler drove another 10 yards before stopping.

Frankly, 10 yards of stopping distance is a pretty impressive reaction time for someone who just had a psychopath throw themselves at the car.

His original account was 10-20 yards, but not important. Nothing reported will have you change your viewpoint that the officer was in the wrong here.
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bigblu89 posted...
According to eye witness reports, combined with the statement Scheffler's lawyer made. Scheffler was instructed to just flash his credentials to security as he was approaching the entrance.

He didn't know there was an accident and that it was an actual Police Officer and not club security, so there was a "misunderstanding" when the officer repeatedly asked him to stop, and Scheffler just kept driving into the club, not stopping till he got into the lot.

"Coincidentally"? As in the guy that was hit and KILLED by an automobile chose that spot on purpose?
Coincidentally, as in a coincidence. As in the accident happened and was also exactly where Scheffler was expected to be waved through by the security working that spot.

The police account isn't lining up and you're creating motivations for Scheffler. He went crazed with privilege for like 3 seconds and then stopped and quietly complied with police?
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bigblu89 posted...
His original account was 10-20 yards, but not important. Nothing reported will have you change your viewpoint that the officer was in the wrong here.
10-20 yards is literally nothing in a moving car for someone who suddenly had a person attached to their car
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bigblu89 posted...
Nothing reported will have you change your viewpoint that the officer was in the wrong here.
Ironic statement, that.
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DrizztLink posted...
Ironic statement, that.

Not really, considering * I* was the one to first post the actual witness account of what happened, and based my initial opinion on that.

Which was after MULTPLE people on here jumped to the conclusion to fire the cop, that he was on an ego trip, and that the reason Scheffler got arrested was "bullshit".
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bigblu89 posted...
fire the cop
Mhm, definitely do that. Fire the whole department too, while you're at it. LMPD is one of the worst out there, and that's really saying something.

bigblu89 posted...
that he was on an ego trip
Yup. Beyond a shadow of doubt.

bigblu89 posted...
and that the reason Scheffler got arrested was "bullshit"
Hey, 3 for 3, you're pretty good at this.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Mhm, definitely do that. Fire the whole department too, while you're at it. LMPD is one of the worst out there, and that's really saying something.

Yup. Beyond a shadow of doubt.

Hey, 3 for 3, you're pretty good at this.

Keep all that in mind when you curse at some guy in his 4x4 driving on the shoulder to avoid traffic.

"He's probably just some rich dude that's late for his tee time, I'll allow it!"
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What the police did was disproportionate, but lets not pretend Scotty wasnt being a douche thinking he can circumvent traffic rules because hes Scotty. If he didnt think those were normal security guards and cops instead he wouldve have listened but he thought he doesnt have to respect normal security so just blew by.
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bigblu89 posted...
Not really, considering * I* was the one to first post the actual witness account of what happened, and based my initial opinion on that.

Which was after MULTPLE people on here jumped to the conclusion to fire the cop, that he was on an ego trip, and that the reason Scheffler got arrested was "bullshit".
And we all know reliable eye witnesses are.
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
And we all know reliable eye witnesses are.

It was a guy that was there to cover the event for ESPN, to the point where Scheffler was getting arrested, he asked the reporter if there was anything he could do to help him out, as in let the officers know who he was.

While, yes, he could've made up the story, I don't see a situation where he would fabricate a story to make Scheffler look bad, considering they give the illusion that they are contemporaries with a working relationship (at least as far as one would consider an athlete/reporter to have a "working relationship").
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the eyewitness said the golfer was in the lane for golfers/media and being waved through by cops until this brainless cop decided to try and give conflicting instructions. the media witness basically said the cop was in the wrong which tracks considering charges are being dropped. this cop should be fired and charged
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andel posted...
the eyewitness said the golfer was in the lane for golfers/media and being waved through by cops until this brainless cop decided to try and give conflicting instructions. the media witness basically said the cop was in the wrong which tracks considering charges are being dropped. this cop should be fired and charged

Has there been an update to what the eyewitness said he saw? Becasue last thing I read was:

According to ESPN reporter Jeff Darlington, who witnessed the incident, Scheffler was trying to drive around the crash scene on a median. A police officer instructed Scheffler to stop, but Scheffler continued to drive about 10 to 20 yards toward the entrance.

The officer was dressed in a high visibility reflective jacket when he stopped Scheffler's car to give instructions, the arrest sheet said. Gillis was taken to the hospital for his injuries.

Even Scheffler's statement, unless it's changed since this morning, says nothing about the officer waiving him though:

"This morning, I was proceeding as directed by police officers," Scheffler said in a statement. "It was a very chaotic situation, understandably so considering the tragic accident that had occurred earlier, and there was a big misunderstanding of what I thought I was being asked to do. I never intended to disregard any of the instructions . I'm hopeful to put this to the side and focus on golf today.

But I 100% could be wrong if there is newer information or quotes.
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bigblu89 posted...
Has there been an update to what the eyewitness said he saw? Becasue last thing I read was:

Even Scheffler's statement, unless it's changed since this morning, says nothing about the officer waiving him though:

But I 100% could be wrong if there is newer information or quotes.
It literally says he did what he thought he was being told to do, which is proceed into the lane as he had previously been instructed. One could say he believed he was being waved through.
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David1988 posted...
What the police did was disproportionate, but lets not pretend Scotty wasnt being a douche thinking he can circumvent traffic rules because hes Scotty. If he didnt think those were normal security guards and cops instead he wouldve have listened but he thought he doesnt have to respect normal security so just blew by.
Uh, that's literally what they were supposed to do with the tournament security: Flash credentials and pass through

"Hurr durr he was running over security officers because he doesn't view them as people! Lololol I thought you CE folks hated all rich white men and wanted them to die? Hypocrisy much?"
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David1988 posted...
What the police did was disproportionate, but lets not pretend Scotty wasnt being a douche thinking he can circumvent traffic rules because hes Scotty. If he didnt think those were normal security guards and cops instead he wouldve have listened but he thought he doesnt have to respect normal security so just blew by.
Congratulations, you've gotten every possible detail about it wrong.
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He shot 5 under par today after that.
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hockeybabe89 posted...
It literally says he did what he thought he was being told to do, which is proceed into the lane as he had previously been instructed. One could say he believed he was being waved through.

Correct. That's what he thought.

It just comes down to who you want to believe. Do you want to believe the officer (and the witness) who said they were instructing him to stop, or do you want to believe Scheffler, who said he "thought" he was being told to drive on the median.

Or do you want to believe (which is most likely) it was some some combination of the two.

It all seems pretty simple. There was an accident. As is procedure, police where on the scene to direct traffic. Scheffler did not know there was an accident. He assumed the officer was just regular security. He was instructed that morning to just show the credentials to security and continue to drive.

It's entirely possible that both were in the wrong, but it's been pretty wild to me to read through all this today and see people saying that Scheffler did nothing wrong by driving on the median while trying to get around stopped traffic.
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bigblu89 posted...
Correct. That's what he thought.

It just comes down to who you want to believe. Do you want to believe the officer (and the witness) who said they were instructing him to stop, or do you want to believe Scheffler, who said he "thought" he was being told to drive on the median.

It all seems pretty simple. There was an accident. As is procedure, police where on the scene to direct traffic. Scheffler did not know there was an accident. He assumed the officer was just regular security. He was instructed that morning to just show the credentials to security and continue to drive.

It's entirely possible that both were in the wrong.
And that he did nothing criminal
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hockeybabe89 posted...
And that he did nothing criminal

Define criminal, because trying to circumvent traffic by driving on the median is definitely a traffic violation.
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bigblu89 posted...
Well then I guess Im the only one that sees the flawed logic in saying Scotty was in the right and the officer was in the wrong in this situation.


We got you BIGBLU . You are part of the Blue Shield. Everyone here understands you will take the side of police every time. Just another Tenlaar.
Sandalorn posted...
Just another Tenlaar.
Tenlaar was at least amusing.
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Sandalorn posted...
We got you BIGBLU . You are part of the Blue Shield. Everyone here understands you will take the side of police every time. Just another Tenlaar.

BigBlu89 is because I'm a NY Giants fan (Big Blue Wrecking Crew), and Mark Bavaro (who wore #89) was my favorite player.

Back in the mid 1990's, AOL screen names could only be 8 characters, so I dropped the "e" from Blue.

I honestly don't think I even know anyone who is currently a police officer. My uncle was one, but he retired like 25 years ago.

But go on...
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bigblu89 posted...
I guess it's cool to know I have a reputation here, even if it's a bad one.

I always assumed I was just some faceless poster that no one notices.

I like to give the opposing viewpoint of the majority. Way too many people on here argue from a place of passion and not a place of logic.
Don't bother with these people, it's never worth it to stoop to their level. Be glad their vitriol only stays online. If you know you're right you don't need to defend yourself anyway.
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xlr_big-coop posted...
Don't bother with these people, it's never worth it to stoop to their level. Be glad their vitriol only stays online. If you know you're right you don't need to defend yourself anyway.
Lmao what is this
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Lmao what is this
The best he can do.
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xlr_big-coop posted...
Don't bother with these people, it's never worth it to stoop to their level. Be glad their vitriol only stays online. If you know you're right you don't need to defend yourself anyway.

I don't see it as vitriol. Like I said, it's passion.

It's ok to be passionate about something. The issue comes when it blinds them from any other viewpoint potentially being vaild.
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bigblu89 posted...
It was a guy that was there to cover the event for ESPN, to the point where Scheffler was getting arrested, he asked the reporter if there was anything he could do to help him out, as in let the officers know who he was.

While, yes, he could've made up the story, I don't see a situation where he would fabricate a story to make Scheffler look bad, considering they give the illusion that they are contemporaries with a working relationship (at least as far as one would consider an athlete/reporter to have a "working relationship").
Interesting that you assumed I meant the witness was lying when I actually just meant that he didnt know what he saw, or that he could just simply be mistaken about what he saw. I think that says a lot about you.
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
Interesting that you assumed I meant the witness was lying when I actually just meant that he didnt know what he saw, or that he could just simply be mistaken about what he saw. I think that says a lot about you.

What does it say? That I took the witnesses account as accurate, while you assumed he was wrong, becasue it put Scheffler in the negative light?
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bigblu89 posted...
What does it say? That I took the witnesses account as accurate, while you assumed he was wrong, becasue it put Scheffler in the negative light?
I didnt assume he was wrong, I just said you were wrong for basing your entire opinion on a single eyewitness account, despite the fact that eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable.

But thats not even what Im talking about. You assumed that I meant the witness was lying. Why?
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
I didnt assume he was wrong, I just said you were wrong for basing your entire opinion on a single eyewitness account, despite the fact that eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable.

But thats not even what Im talking about. You assumed that I meant the witness was lying. Why?


Not to mention it was pitch black, raining, and there were a dozen police cars and ambulances with their lights on. There is video of him being led to the police car and it was hard to see anything. Scheffler is about as honest and good a person as it comes as I am absolutely going to take his word over police every time until shown different.
Has the back the blue crowd announced their boycott of the PGA yet?
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FunWithAFryPan posted...


But thats not even what Im talking about. You assumed that I meant the witness was lying. Why?

I guess because I was lumping you into the pile of people that was saying the cop was 100% in the wrong, so anyone that corroborates his story is also wrong.

I shouldnt have done that, and I apologize for that. But the whole day has been me reading post after post about how theres zero chance that Scheffler did anything wrong and the officer was just on a power trip, when it all reality, the guy was probably just trying to do his job and direct traffic away from an accident.
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ablegator posted...
Has the back the blue crowd announced their boycott of the PGA yet?


Scheffler in his press conference after his round talked about how much of a supporter he was of the police and thanked multiple cops (the guy that drove him to the station and those that were in the station when he was processed) for helping him understand the situation and calming him down.

If they do, they are plain idiots.
Sandalorn posted...
Scheffler in his press conference after his round talked about how much of a supporter he was of the police and thanked multiple cops (the guy that drove him to the station and those that were in the station when he was processed) for helping him understand the situation and calming him down.

If they do, they are plain idiots.
Yeah. I see this being a non story by Tee time Sunday morning
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bigblu89 posted...
Define criminal, because trying to circumvent traffic by driving on the median is definitely a traffic violation.
Thats not a criminal charge. A traffic violation is a civil one.
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bigblu89 posted...
when it all reality, the guy was probably just trying to do his job and direct traffic away from an accident.
I'm not entirely convinced that "just doing his job" involves physically attacking cars for minor traffic violations.
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I see kazi's desperate for attention again.
Sandalorn posted...
If they do, they are plain idiots.

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