I like the Agatha character but how did she get her own show?

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I loved Wandavision so I will check this out. Especially as it has the same team behind it. Wandavision remains the best marvel D+ series

That said, Agatha was a fun character but didn't strike me as someone worthy of her own show. She got her own project before:

Warmachine
Winter Soldier (best he got was #1 villain and secondary lead)
A second Hulk project (I get it, rights)
Wong (hes a side character...but so is agatha)
Any of the netflix characters
Any single guardian of the galaxy
Mutants
Namor

I wouldnt be surprised if this ends up being awesome but just suprised it got greenlit
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It comes down to what kind of story they think is interesting to tell. It's the same reason it was Falcon and Winter Soldier instead of just Winter Soldier, they felt they had a more interesting story to tell with the two of them.

WandaVision was one of (maybe the?) best rated shows, and people were intrigued by the Agatha character, so they felt they had something there. There wasn't any kind of necessity like "Oh, we must give Warmachine a show because he's Warmachine," they just kinda went "Hey, people really liked WandaVision, and they reacted well to Agatha, and we have an idea for her."
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It comes down to what kind of story they think is interesting to tell. It's the same reason it was Falcon and Winter Soldier instead of just Winter Soldier, they felt they had a more interesting story to tell with the two of them.

WandaVision was one of (maybe the?) best rated shows, and people were intrigued by the Agatha character, so they felt they had something there. There wasn't any kind of necessity like "Oh, we must give Warmachine a show because he's Warmachine," they just kinda went "Hey, people really liked WandaVision, and they reacted well to Agatha, and we have an idea for her."

Nobody left wandavision saying "hey a full agatha project would br sweet"
Cause it was Agatha all along. >_>
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Blue_Popo posted...
Nobody left wandavision saying "hey a full agatha project would br sweet"
A Halloween special would have been cool (like GoTG Christmas special) but a full series? I would have preferred a Golden Dagger show.
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'Cause Agatha was an interesting character. That's the official reason.

Unofficially...

We all want her to force us to our knees, take our chin in her thumb and index finger and force us to look up at her, pat our head with the other hand, and finally lean down and whisper "Good boy/girl" in our ears.
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It just seems weird to give these characters their own show, I just don't get it
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Blue_Popo posted...
Nobody left wandavision saying "hey a full agatha project would br sweet"

Maybe not that specifically, but people were absolutely up for more in the same style as WandaVision, and Agatha was the easiest way to do that.
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pretty sure one of the people behind it, either the director or writer, got together with the actress and came up with pitches and pitched their story to the execs. execs probably had trash lined up and they figured they have the cast/sets/money and the pitch probably sounded decent so they rolled with it. literally networking.

mcu shows are an entirely different beast, even more now after the link to the mcu movie world didn't really pan out so great. it really has little to do with marvel and more to do with the actors and people involved.

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I still think its kinda weird they made her a villain when she and Wanda are really close in the comics. I mean I dont mind it. I just think its weird

Also, TC, if youre interested in comics at all I highly recommend the 12 issue The Visions series. WandaVision takes a lot of inspiration from it and its really good too
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GuerrillaSoldier posted...
pretty sure one of the people behind it, either the director or writer, got together with the actress and came up with pitches and pitched their story to the execs. execs probably had trash lined up and they figured they have the cast/sets/money and the pitch probably sounded decent so they rolled with it. literally networking.

mcu shows are an entirely different beast, even more now after the link to the mcu movie world didn't really pan out so great. it really has little to do with marvel and more to do with the actors and people involved.

Supposedly marvel went to the writers of wandavision and said "how about an agatha show"
Agatha screened very well, she's a character with an actual history in Marvel, and so they have stuff to use, and people loved WandaVision, so doing more in even a similar style might prove lucrative.

That's pretty much what it comes down to.

Did they need to do the GotG Christmas special, when GotG3 was already under way? No, but also... Why not? GotG were a draw, and there was a fun story to tell.

Agatha kinda feels like that. People liked Agatha, and they have a story they can tell.
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Only thing I can think of is they're trying to expand the MCU into witchcraft, Wanda/Vision dabbled in it, same with Multiverse of Madness, but neither really delved into it fully, and this appears to be doing that.

I doubt she or anyone else is going to be an avenger, but much like Werewolf By Night, this is likely a very self contained thing.
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I'm hoping her show leads to us getting the Midnight Sons.
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
I'm hoping her show leads to us getting the Midnight Sons.
That would be fun. I could also see Blade setting that up as well. Hell maybe they can bring back Nico from the Runaways assuming its still canon. The actress seems to enjoy playing her since she did the voice for the Midnight Sons game

Now we just need to bring back Ghost Rider. I seem to recall he was briefly in Agents of Shield? I never watched it but I remember seeing clips
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BlueBoy675 posted...
Now we just need to bring back Ghost Rider. I seem to recall he was briefly in Agents of Shield? I never watched it but I remember seeing clips

Robbie Reyes was. Currently no Ghost Rider is actually canon to the MCU yet, but they have several choices, because the actual mantel of "Ghost Rider" has been held by multiple characters.

I'd say they probably won't go Robbie for the MCU. Robbie drives a car, while a motorcycle is more iconic to the character, but it's possible. My assumption is they'll go with Danny Ketch, if they don't want to go with Johnny Blaze due to the Nic Cage movies.
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Robbie Reyes was. Currently no Ghost Rider is actually canon to the MCU yet, but they have several choices, because the actual mantel of "Ghost Rider" has been held by multiple characters.

I'd say they probably won't go Robbie for the MCU. Robbie drives a car, while a motorcycle is more iconic to the character, but it's possible.
Yeah. I know Johnny is the most recognizable so I imagine they would use him. Ive never read any of Robbies stuff but Ive heard its pretty good and I liked him in Midnight Suns

I guess they could also do Danny Ketch but considering his whole thing is being Johnnys long lost brother it would just make more sense to use Johnny
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SgtBash posted...
It just seems weird to give these characters their own show, I just don't get it

I think Disney thought that they'd be able to farm Marvel for infinite money without realizing they actually had to keep some good writers on staff.
BlueBoy675 posted...
Yeah. I know Johnny is the most recognizable so I imagine they would use him. Ive never read any of Robbies stuff but Ive heard its pretty good and I liked him in Midnight Suns

I guess they could also do Danny Ketch but considering his whole thing is being Johnnys long lost brother it would just make more sense to use Johnny

Yeah, it makes the most sense to use Johnny. I just see Ketch being an easy go to if they want a Ghost Rider that looks like Johnny but... Isn't Johnny. And then they could either just not include the brother stuff, or use it to bring Johnny in later.

Robbie's great. Literally the only reason I don't think they'll use him is the car thing. The motorcycle is just too recognizable to pass up.
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HashtagSEP posted...
Robbie Reyes was. Currently no Ghost Rider is actually canon to the MCU yet, but they have several choices, because the actual mantel of "Ghost Rider" has been held by multiple characters.

I'd say they probably won't go Robbie for the MCU. Robbie drives a car, while a motorcycle is more iconic to the character, but it's possible. My assumption is they'll go with Danny Ketch, if they don't want to go with Johnny Blaze due to the Nic Cage movies.
Isn't Ghost Rider Ryan Gosling's dream role? Swear I read that somewhere.
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ClayGuida posted...
Isn't Ghost Rider Ryan Gosling's dream role? Swear I read that somewhere.

Yeah, he's said he'd like to, and Kevin Feige appeared all for it. There's just nothing official.
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I thought that the Agatha heel turn completely ruined Wandavision
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BlueBoy675 posted...
That would be fun. I could also see Blade setting that up as well. Hell maybe they can bring back Nico from the Runaways assuming its still canon. The actress seems to enjoy playing her since she did the voice for the Midnight Sons game

Now we just need to bring back Ghost Rider. I seem to recall he was briefly in Agents of Shield? I never watched it but I remember seeing clips

I think that was Robbie Reyes but it's been a long time since ice seen Agents of Shield. Blade could definitely help set the stage and if they can bring back Nico too that would be awesome. They've done Moon Knight and he's a known member and Elsa Bloodstone was in Werewolf by Midnight. So they already have a decent starting roster for it. Especially if you count Doctor Strange.
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It is probably because they need a dark themed character as a vehicle to introduce something like mephisto or whatever the fuck they want to do, not because she is particularily relevant or interesting.
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orcus_snake posted...
It is probably because they need a dark themed character as a vehicle to introduce something like mephisto or whatever the fuck they want to do, not because she is particularily relevant or interesting.

You clearly haven't read the comics then.
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
You clearly haven't read the comics then.

What do you mean, isnt she completely different from her regular comic book persona?
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orcus_snake posted...
What do you mean, isnt she completely different from her regular comic book persona?

Not really? Both are a very old witch who can disguise themself as a younger woman. Both specialize in illusions. We don't know enough about MCU Agatha's motivations yet to say how they may or may not differ from the comics, but that will presumedly be answered by the show.
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Agatha was pretty cool in the Midnight Suns game, though I guess technically she's dead for all of it, not that it matters to her I guess lol. Though it was surprising that she was basically a plain good guy, not even all that chaotic or even neutral, especially after what I saw in MCU's Agatha.
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Someone made a comment about this show a while back that got me thinking.

The breakout character in Wandavision was Agnes, The quirky next-door neighbor playing a part. The actual Agatha, whome we really only got to know in the last episode, was your generic, antsy, by-the-books Marvel villain that was defeated after a powers battle.

The only issue I could see in this show is that Agatha herself isn't very interesting (as denoted in Wandavision). I feel like they will either revert her back to her Agnes persona, or just bleed the Agness persona into Agatha, as that is what I think would make the show more fun to watch.

Agnes was hammy, quirky, and witty. Agatha was just evil and angry.

Granted, I haven't watched the trailer as I don't want to spoil anything, so this may have already been covered there.
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Someone made a comment about this show a while back that got me thinking.

The breakout character in Wandavision was Agnes, The quirky next-door neighbor playing a part. The actual Agatha, whome we really only got to know in the last episode, was your generic, antsy, by-the-books Marvel villain that was defeated after a powers battle.

The only issue I could see in this show is that Agatha herself isn't very interesting (as denoted in Wandavision). I feel like they will either revert her back to her Agnes persona, or just bleed the Agness persona into Agatha, as that is what I think would make the show more fun to watch.

Agnes was hammy, quirky, and witty. Agatha was just evil and angry.

Granted, I haven't watched the trailer as I don't want to spoil anything, so this may have already been covered there.

It can be argued she became the generic evil and angry type because her plan fell apart and she had no reason to keep up any charade or personality at all other than "Okay you got me, but screw you." If this is the case, then it's possible/likely she'll show more personality in the situations portrayed in the Agatha show.

So the tl;dr is basically... Yeah, they'll probably bleed the Agnes personality into Agatha.
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