Dragon Age Origins was the only good Dragon Age game.

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All of the sequels have worse characters, worse dialogue, worse roleplaying, and worse art design in exchange for better combat. The combat being better is not worth the downgrade in literally everything else

Veilguard is good, from what I've played.

I'm not saying it's as good as Origins, but it's good in its own right, IMO.

it's too early to comment on the dialogue and characters, but I disagree about the art design thing.
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Are we counting Awakening as part of Origins? It was the peak of DA for me
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Nah they're all at least solid, none are actively bad.
I think Inquisition has better characters than Origins. And the art design is pretty even between the two quality wise imo.

Origins really does have great roleplaying though. The dialogue allowed me to roleplay so many character motivations.
Ghosts are cool.
Snarky Hawke redeems 2 mostly.

Honestly, if 2 just had more dungeon layouts it'd have been a fine, fast sequel.
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wackyteen posted...
Snarky Hawke redeems 2 mostly.

Honestly, if 2 just had more dungeon layouts it'd have been a fine, fast sequel.

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Ehh, I liked the dialogue in Inquisition more than Origins.
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
I think Inquisition has better characters than Origins. And the art design is pretty even between the two quality wise imo.


I enjoyed Inquisition once it moved past The Hinterlands. They really screwed the pooch with how ridiculously large (and pretty boring) that initial zone was.
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I think Origins was the best story for sure and I highly enjoyed the characters but I dont care what anyone says I thought Inquisition was absolutely top tier. Loved every second of it even though gamefaqs overwhelmingly dislikes it and says all the talent was gone from BioWare by then. It has some fans though. I thought it was fucking great.
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Biofighter55 posted...
hawke was supposed to be the leader of the inquistion, but the bad reception changed that

Wait, really?

Suddenly, so many questions I had about Inquisition make sense.

(I still think that the elf mage as inquisitor romancing Solas has the best RP, but Garret Hawke as inquisitor would still be badass)
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I like Origins PC gameplay the most, but Inquisition's console gameplay is pretty great too.

The story and writing all felt roughly the same to me, in terms of quality.

I think Origins gets a bit of a pass from some people because it was the first game, the groundwork.

In a vacuum though, some of the writing is pretty banal/derivitive. Grey Wardens are Jedi without the Force, conveniently immune to the Blight. A pretty standard backstab story of the well intentioned noble King by a power hungry general/friend.

I'm not saying the story is bad, it just isn't particularly revolutionary.

Also, in general I feel like they haven't done the best with the whole world of Thedas, in the games at least.
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Xenogears15 posted...
Wait, really?

Suddenly, so many questions I had about Inquisition make sense.

(I still think that the elf mage as inquisitor romancing Solas has the best RP, but Garret Hawke as inquisitor would still be badass)
There was supposed to be a DLC for DA2 called Exalted March that would have been basically a condensed version of the first act of DAI
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wackyteen posted...
Snarky Hawke redeems 2 mostly.

Honestly, if 2 just had more dungeon layouts it'd have been a fine, fast sequel.
Agreed. I hated how people were saying the gameplay got worse when the gameplay had better abilities and cut a lot of lousy ones out like combat tactics as a leveling ability.

Yes, the console version made you have to mash buttons to attack, but the PC version still played like a less clunky version of origins.

My ideal dragon age would have been 2 combat with origins dungeon designs.
Disagree. I liked Origins more but did still like Inquisition. Never got around to playing 2 though.
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i enjoyed all 3 games, but i like origins the least. admittedly i'm biased because it kept crashing on me like every 45 minutes, even with the LAA 4gb patch or whatever it was called.

nuking rooms as a mage was fun tho. especially if the room was full of mages. (mana clash was busted)
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Origins is a great game.

I think Veilguard will end up being good. From what I've seen it's ditched the open world format, which lets them actually have some structured level design. I do wish the battles were more interactive and strategic with the party though, so far I just do pretty much all the damage with my MC and the other characters are just there to heal me or use combos.
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pazzy posted...
Yes, the console version made you have to mash buttons to attack, but the PC version still played like a less clunky version of origins.
You didn't even need to mash buttons on the console versions. I think the settings were hold the button, or you could just use the Origins method of auto attacking upon targeting.
Ghosts are cool.
origins, 2, and inquisition are all fun but flawed games

veilguard looks like genuine trash tho
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thronedfire2 posted...
Origins is a great game.

I think Veilguard will end up being good. From what I've seen it's ditched the open world format, which lets them actually have some structured level design. I do wish the battles were more interactive and strategic with the party though, so far I just do pretty much all the damage with my MC and the other characters are just there to heal me or use combos.
My impression of it so far is that it's a fine enough game, just not a very good Dragon Age game. It definitely feels like a game that took ten years of development time, went through a couple hard resets, and cycled the entire dev team in the meantime.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
My impression of it so far is that it's a fine enough game, just not a very good Dragon Age game.

I've seen this quite a few times and I'm not sure what people really mean about it.

If the comparison is only to Origins, then sure. But DA2 and Inquisition didn't feel like Origins at all. At this point Origins doesn't feel like a Dragon Age game compared to the other 3.

maybe the success of BG3 will make them go back towards the RPG roots when the next game comes out in like 7 years

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Sorry but Inquisition has great characters, fantastic dialogue, and interesting combat. While Origins is great, I feel like Inquisition is better and I'm currently playing Inquisition right now. Origins was the start, it was great for its groundwork and building a robust and loving franchise. The gameplay was okay but I feel like Origins was made so that Inquisition could run.

2 though? I felt bad for 2. I wanted to love 2 but there were too many times where you're forced to retread the same areas over and over again. Once you got out of the Hinterlands(which is actually easy to do), Inquisition became such a great game. The problem is that they don't give you much of a signal to LEAVE the Hinterlands and if you're a completionist, you don't want to leave until its over but then you end up becoming too overwhelmed and then burned out.
FurryPhilosifer posted...
You didn't even need to mash buttons on the console versions. I think the settings were hold the button, or you could just use the Origins method of auto attacking upon targeting.
It got patched. Originally you had to attack by pressing a button.
thronedfire2 posted...
I've seen this quite a few times and I'm not sure what people really mean about it.

If the comparison is only to Origins, then sure. But DA2 and Inquisition didn't feel like Origins at all. At this point Origins doesn't feel like a Dragon Age game compared to the other 3.

maybe the success of BG3 will make them go back towards the RPG roots when the next game comes out in like 7 years
Basically what I've thought.

Like, every single DA game has been wildly different from the rest of the series.

Saying "this doesn't feel like DA" is almost meaningless.
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Xenogears15 posted...
Wait, really?

Suddenly, so many questions I had about Inquisition make sense.

(I still think that the elf mage as inquisitor romancing Solas has the best RP, but Garret Hawke as inquisitor would still be badass)


oh yeah, not only that DA2 was supposed to get an expansion pack like origins, and hawke and everyone would've ran to starkhaven to prepare for an exalted march, which I think would make an interesting story if Sebastian left DA2 angry with you

and I think that would've been one of the reasons, that hawke would've become an inquisitor
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Origins is the only GREAT Dragon Age game. Awesome DLC too, especially Awakening & Witch Hunt being such a wonderful epilogue/send off.

DA2 was obviously flawed, but Snarky Hawke & Varric made up for a lot and there was some good writing and interesting plot stuff. And Merrill was wonderful.

Inquisition was a bloated mess but it still had some positives to me.
I played through DA: Origins this year. I think it's definitely a nostalgia title. It had some fun moments but overall just felt very... generic fantasy-y.

At some point I will play through 2, just haven't cleansed the palette enough yet from Origins.
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DAII may (rightfully) get criticism for the repetitive dungeon layouts, but its actually my favorite of the series. I think the characters tend ti be much more interesting in that game, and I actually really enjoy the relatively smaller scope of the story.

Havent played Veilguard yet and may not for some time, but Ill get there eventually.
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i like the writing in 2 but yeah. played them all a couple years ago. fell in love with origins. didnt like 2. hated 3
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Guess it is a good thing I never tried any other Dragon age games.

I played Origin for a few hours but never really got into it. Then there was a point I lost hours of progress due to the crappy autosave, so I dropped it.
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DAO is outdated lol.

DAI, DAV, DAO, DA2 in terms of gameplay.

Story- DAV, DAI, DA2,DAO.

People that wank DAO and insult the rest of the series are cringe as fuck.
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if it was outdated i wouldnt have liked it when i played it for the first time recently. i also hate medieval fantasy
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DAII may (rightfully) get criticism for the repetitive dungeon layouts, but its actually my favorite of the series. I think the characters tend ti be much more interesting in that game, and I actually really enjoy the relatively smaller scope of the story.

Havent played Veilguard yet and may not for some time, but Ill get there eventually.
Agreed, I mean there's a reason they keep reusing Varric.
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i dunno, i'd say instead that it's the only great DA game. for all of the faults of 2 and Inquisition, they still had good aspects about them. Inquisition had enjoyable combat and beautiful scenery. 2 had a very engaging concept of a narrative that portrayed how a city-state changes over time in response to pivotal circumstances and the influential people who drive them.
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I enjoyed 2 because of the combat and Inquisition was one of my favorite games from the Xbox one/PS4 generation. Origins is the best though
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DrizztLink posted...
Basically what I've thought.

Like, every single DA game has been wildly different from the rest of the series.

Saying "this doesn't feel like DA" is almost meaningless.
What I meant is that it seems to me that they either don't have a very good grasp on their own lore at this point, or just don't care.

There's not really a lot I can go into without getting into spoilers, but basically, Tevinter doesn't feel like what it's been built up to be, the motivations of the game's secondary villains don't make any sense, there are several earth-shattering implications brought up by the main plot that everyone just glosses over or ignores, and the game feels overall like it was written to be as inoffensive and safe as possible, which is in sharp contrast to how previous games in the series have been written.
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