would you say visiting the US (for leisure) is akin to being complicit/enabling?

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Dungeater
03/20/2025
02:01 PM
#1
genuinely curious. if i was a foreigner no way in hell would i want to visit. not only out of a basic sense of self preservation, but i also wouldnt want any of my money going to what seems to be a nazi state

it honestly feels similar to 1930s Germany
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Zelduh
03/20/2025
02:14 PM
#2
Yes, it's also being stupid because tourists are literally being disappeared by the government
ai123
03/20/2025
02:22 PM
#3
There is no way I'm travelling to the US. I don't consider it a safe place. I barely did anyway, considering the level of gun ownership.

If someone wants to take their kids to Disneyland, I'm not going to call them a Nazi collaborator.
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Evening_Dragon
03/20/2025
02:27 PM
#4
Yes, technically, but also I'm not going to be salty and/or shitty about it.
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saspa
03/20/2025
02:31 PM
#5
Maybe if I was white or treated like a white socioeconomically speaking, then maybe. Otherwise no point being on a 20 hour flight costing thousands of dollars just to ultimately be harassed.

But I definitely plan to.
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rick_alverado
03/20/2025
02:50 PM
#6
From a financial standpoint, would it be any different than continuing to spend money on things from the USA? Like, the amount of money I have spent on American movies is probably higher than the amount of money I have spent while actually in the USA. I'm currently a patron of a few Patreon accounts, most of which are Americans, so is that being complicit?
Dungeater
03/20/2025
04:03 PM
#7
bump
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DrizztLink
03/20/2025
04:06 PM
#9
Dunno about it being collaborator business, but it's definitely a terrible fucking idea right now.

Unless you absolutely positively have to enter the US, don't .

And even if you do absolutely positively have to, think several times and exhaust alternatives first.
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Voidgolem
03/20/2025
04:07 PM
#10
That type of reasoning is nonsense.

That said, travelling to the US is demonstrably unsafe at the moment. So.
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Rotterdammerung
03/20/2025
04:10 PM
#11
I wouldnt be allowed, I post on gamefaqs
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GeraldDarko
03/20/2025
04:16 PM
#12
Nah
I feel like some people take this collaboration stuff too far. Oh, you go to Walmart, Kwik Trip, buy Nestle products... you're complicit! The vast majority have no room to talk, as they give money to evil corporations all the time that support the US or push anti-worker/consumer rhetoric and policies. Unless, they're making their own clothes, only going to farmers markets, etc, but that is a very small number of people
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Prismsblade
03/20/2025
04:20 PM
#13
What you do with your money is of no concern to me or the average American. Or anyone outside the tourist industry actually.

But bad things can happen in most places people frequent if youre unlucky enough. So if its not worth the risk to you then just dont do it.
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Zelduh
03/21/2025
06:42 PM
#14
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
wat

Multiple Canadian and German tourists were abducted by ICE and put into detention camps in the middle of nowhere and kept in solitary confinement and tortured
Umbreon
03/21/2025
06:49 PM
#15
GeraldDarko posted...
Nah
I feel like some people take this collaboration stuff too far. Oh, you go to Walmart, Kwik Trip, buy Nestle products... you're complicit!


Eh, it's not unreasonable to not buy Nestle products. Grocery stores are much more understandable to give money to because you have to eat. Reasonable people know that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. It's only the terminally online who are like "How dare you purchase water instead of purifying your own!".
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