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Downloaded Oblivion Remastered last night. Im playing on Legion Go and honestly, I expect it to run like shit. Game Pass lets me test that out risk free though which is such a great feature. If its bad, I delete and lose nothing. If its good I have 100+ hours of entertainment free of charge.

I also never played Oblivion so this is gonna be fun.
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It's not free tho
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Oblivion, Expedition 33, Doom The Dark Ages all within a month.

Yes. It is amazing.
Can I buy oblivion as a stand alone game without subscription? I looked for it at the store and couldnt find it anywhere.
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MrDrMan posted...
If its good I have 100+ hours of entertainment free of charge.

Game Pass doesn't cost anything?

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Back when I had an Xbox One I did a trial for Gamepass for $1, just so I could play P4 Golden again. I finished it and unsubbed before the month was up.
It really is. You can try so many games you likely wouldn't be interested in otherwise. Also allows those with less powerful PCs or laptops to experience a game at high, non-potato settings.
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Asherlee10 posted...
He just means it's a subscription and doesn't have to buy all the games to try them.

Ah, yes. I also enjoyed getting my free issues of Nintendo Power in the mail for $42 a year. Subscriptions ftw.
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Bleuets posted...
Can I buy oblivion as a stand alone game without subscription? I looked for it at the store and couldnt find it anywhere.

Yes, you can buy the game standalone. But if you're on Xbox/PC and can beat the game within a month, it's much cheaper to buy a month of Game Pass and download it that way than to buy it standalone.
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Bleuets posted...
Can I buy oblivion as a stand alone game without subscription? I looked for it at the store and couldnt find it anywhere.
On Xbox, yes.
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If you're gonna just buy the game, I don't see why you don't do through Steam >_>
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Ivynn posted...
If you're gonna just buy the game, I don't see why you don't do through Steam >_>
Xbox is just the only platform for which I can answer the question.
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I just can't put up with Oblivion, it looks amazing but the gameplay just screams mid-00s. See that mountain over there? There's a cave there with four mages who glitch out and spin around, some rats, and a bunch of dead ends with one chest with 5 lockpicks.

Been enjoying Kunitsu-Gami, think I'm just about to finish it though. Amazing music.
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Thanks everyone, Ill look into it.
I absolutely love Gamepass. I have played so many games that I never would have touched if I had to buy them all.

I wish I had walked in here and you were taking a dump on the couch, or doing homework. Anything would be better than that.
I abused the hell out of the $1 subscription around 2020~2021
there was a time when Microsoft overlooked the ability to rebuy $1 subscriptions

i played through omori that way
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Is it though? $20 for ultimate, no free monthly games and the perks suck anymore.

Cheapest PS+ tier gets free monthly games.

Gamepass ultimate isn't worth $20. Only reason I pay it is because that's the only way I can play newer games or games I can't afford.
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Gamepass ultimate isn't worth $20. Only reason I pay it is because that's the only way I can play newer games or games I can't afford.

If you want to play any games online, then you need the $10 a month Core tier for that anyways. In that case, the tons of free games in the Ultimate tier are essentially just an extra $10 a month. But even if you only play single-player games and don't care about online, I still think Ultimate has a big enough library to be well worth the cost.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
It's not free tho

SkittyOnWailord posted...
Game Pass doesn't cost anything?

Its not free but honestly I never even notice the money come out of my account. Its well worth the investment. There are games I never would have bought that I tried and loved. There are games I thought Id love that I didnt like at all and saved the money on. You get access to a ton of games and peace of mind that youre not wasting money. Thats huge to me.
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SkittyOnWailord posted...
Ah, yes. I also enjoyed getting my free issues of Nintendo Power in the mail for $42 a year. Subscriptions ftw.

Anyone thats been playing online console gaming for the last 10 years already has a monthly subscription. Its not like this a new concept. The way I see it yeah its $10/month but $10 vs $20 a month is such an insignificant amount it feels free. You need a membership to game regardless.
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I'm just not keen on supporting a system that's clearly trying to become the future distribution of games. Already have Ubisoft saying we don't own games, so I would prefer to buy what I want to play outright. In the age of the Internet it's not like researching a game takes long and you can see plenty of different perspectives and gameplay reviews.

So I don't sub to that stuff. Not the biggest issue if others do but I don't trust MS and a digital subscription future
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Had it for a couple years and barely used it. Most of the games I want to play aren't on there.
It really is a good deal. I mean just this month we have Blue Prince, Expedition 33 and South of Heaven. It also let me play Lies of P day one.

That said, PC Game Pass can fuck right off. Every game I've played on PC Game Pass has been buggy or won't even load, even on my new computer.
i was able to stack 3 years of ultimate using the old gold conversion trick before they nerfed it for $112. Since then ive added another year and a half using reward points and various codes. So like 4 and a half years of ultimate for $112. Most insane value ive ever had in my many years of gaming. I think it comes out to around $2 a month for me lmao
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Ivany2008 posted...
That said, PC Game Pass can fuck right off. Every game I've played on PC Game Pass has been buggy or won't even load, even on my new computer.

Did you use a "debloat" Windows scripts, or something along those lines? If so, they probably removed necessary things.

FWIW, I've never had any problem running any PC Gamepass games.
Jeremy517 posted...
Did you use a "debloat" Windows scripts, or something along those lines? If so, they probably removed necessary things.

FWIW, I've never had any problem running any PC Gamepass games.

I've done stuff like that in the past. I've spoken to a few other people who have confirmed they have had issues on their pcs as well. Apparently its to do with checks that aren't performed on the versions heading into pc game pass.
Kaldrenthebold posted...
It's not free tho
Eh.

It gets free eventually if you use the point system with Windows 10/11/Xbox.
Worst case you can put on 2 games on while doing the searches if you are an optimizer.

I have... Paid 2 months total I think since the launch of Xbox Series X.
The only extra since the recentish revamp is playing 8 different games from Gamepass per month for 15 minutes each, no need to care about achievements these days.

Jeremy517 posted...
Did you use a "debloat" Windows scripts, or something along those lines? If so, they probably removed necessary things.

FWIW, I've never had any problem running any PC Gamepass games.
The only problem on my end has been Persona 3 Reloaded force-displays everything in moon runes, forcing me to restart the whole system in English. Each time.

On rare occasions games shutting down.
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Fiyun posted...
Eh.

It gets free eventually if you use the point system with Windows 10/11/Xbox.
Worst case you can put on 2 games on while doing the searches if you are an optimizer.

I have... Paid 2 months total I think since the launch of Xbox Series X.
The only extra since the recentish revamp is playing 8 different games from Gamepass per month for 15 minutes each, no need to care about achievements these days.

The only problem on my end has been Persona 3 Reloaded force-displays everything in moon runes, forcing me to restart the whole system in English. Each time.

On rare occasions games shutting down.

Of the games I've played:
Some 2d platformer whose name escapes me : playing the game in windowed mode causes the in-game clock to move at 7x its natural speed
Super Lucky's Tale: Picking up an item causes your character to sink into the ground and be unable to move unless you jump. You cannot jump while holding an item, therein bricking the game. Same issue doesn't exist on Xbox Game Pass.
Code Vein: Moving in any direction places a mouse cursor dead centre, even if you move it out of the way. Same issue doesn't exist on Steam or Xbox Game Pass version.

Those are just the ones I remember from the top of my head. Point is, I've had nothing but issues with PC Game Pass, and those same games if I've played them on Steam don't have the same issues. It's like the version for the PC Game Pass was never patched past a certain version.
I had zero interest in Xbox, but bought a Series S solely for Game Pass. I use the hell out of it.
...I think I'm done here...
Finished Kunitsu-gami. What a trip. Got kind of annoying towards the end but it was worth it. Been a while since I've played a game with such a good soundtrack, made me nostalgic for a world I've never been to.

Playing Wartales now, no idea wtf I'm doing, getting shanked to death by poison hobos everywhere I go, but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Ivany2008 posted...
That said, PC Game Pass can fuck right off. Every game I've played on PC Game Pass has been buggy or won't even load, even on my new computer.

That's a you problem. Never had any problems with any games on gamepass.

Steam is still better because it's easier for modding and because anything Xbox-related stores files in really weird places in Windows. Trying to find the right folder to drop a mod into or edit a config file is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. No idea why Microsoft made their game files so fucked up when they are the ones who literally made Windows.

But if you just want Netflix for gaming and don't mind not owning all the games you play, gamepass is pretty great. The selection is a bit thin at the moment though.
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sfcalimari posted...
Finished Kunitsu-gami. What a trip. Got kind of annoying towards the end but it was worth it. Been a while since I've played a game with such a good soundtrack, made me nostalgic for a world I've never been to.

Playing Wartales now, no idea wtf I'm doing, getting shanked to death by poison hobos everywhere I go, but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

That's a you problem. Never had any problems with any games on gamepass.

Steam is still better because it's easier for modding and because anything Xbox-related stores files in really weird places in Windows. Trying to find the right folder to drop a mod into or edit a config file is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. No idea why Microsoft made their game files so fucked up when they are the ones who literally made Windows.

But if you just want Netflix for gaming and don't mind not owning all the games you play, gamepass is pretty great. The selection is a bit thin at the moment though.

It's not just a me problem. If it were I'd sit down and shut up. I spoke to a friend yesterday who had the exact same issue. Brand new 5000 CAD PC, running opposite hardware to mine so its not just my hardware (I run AMD, he runs NVidia). It doesn't happen to everyone sure, but it happens enough to know its an issue.
Will my saved games from gamer pass be playable on Steam's version?
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VeggetaX posted...
Will my saved games from gamer pass be playable on Steam's version?

I don't think so. I think they are separate, which kind of sucks.
Gamepass was mostly good while my 3 year subscription lasted. I dont think it saved me much money in the long run however. I ended up buying most of the titles I enjoyed.

Thanks to Gamepass I got to play Indiana Jones though. My low end PC could not even start the game after installation, but luckily that cloud gaming thingy got me in.

I prefer to buy my games, but one day, when I can no longer afford to do that, and buy decent hardware, it is nice to have the option that this sub exists.
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I actually spent some time trying to set up sunshine / moonlight so I could just stream the gamepass version of Oblivion to my TV. Had issues and ended up just buying the PS5 version. Then I figured out the issue but the quality wasn't great. I got to spend more time figuring out how to get the quality better but once I do it's going to be the way I play gamepass games. Streamed to my TV via firestick and with my 8bitdo Pro 2 controller.
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I mean it's cool if you don't mind having nothing to show for any of it in 10 years and no re-sell value.

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SilvosForever posted...
I mean it's cool if you don't mind having nothing to show for any of it in 10 years and no re-sell value.

Me - I buy the games I want and own them.

I don't know what's so hard to understand that Gamepass lets you try the games first before you decide to buy them.
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Ivynn posted...
I don't know what's so hard to understand that Gamepass lets you try the games first before you decide to buy them.

Because you spend money when you can just...research. So they get money from your sub, then your money from your sale. Why not just cut that first part out? Stuff like Steam provides 2 hour windows or 2 weeks of owning a game before not allowing refunds. Pretty sure Sony is the worst company for refunds but I'm pretty sure MS is decent with them.
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SilvosForever posted...
I mean it's cool if you don't mind having nothing to show for any of it in 10 years and no re-sell value.

Me - I buy the games I want and own them.

Owning is fine, until you move to a smaller location with limited space. Then you have to be selective. And if I get to play Lies of P without buying the physical cartridge? I'm all for it.
SilvosForever posted...
I mean it's cool if you don't mind having nothing to show for any of it in 10 years and no re-sell value.

Me - I buy the games I want and own them.

As a physical collector myself, do we really own them these days?

Tons of games aren't even fully on disc anymore. 20 years from now when all the servers are shut down you'll put these discs in and they won't work.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Because you spend money when you can just...research. So they get money from your sub, then your money from your sale. Why not just cut that first part out? Stuff like Steam provides 2 hour windows or 2 weeks of owning a game before not allowing refunds. Pretty sure Sony is the worst company for refunds but I'm pretty sure MS is decent with them.

But you get a nice selection of games to try out without having to spend money on each and every one of them, then try to decide in 2 hours if it's for you. Some people act like it's costing an arm and a leg when 20 bucks isn't really that much.
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On my radar for 2025 are Dynasty Warriors Origin, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Monster Hunter Wilds, Elden Ring: Nightreign, Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater, Borderlands 4, Doom: The Dark Ages, GTA6 (and some Nintendo and Sony games). Of those, only Doom is guaranteed to be on Gamepass. A couple of the others might hit Gamepass years from now. I'll just buy Doom. The Gamepass version won't come with the DLC anyway.

And someone will say there are so many other games on Gamepass to discover and play. That's true, but as someone with a family and a career, my gaming time is limited. The list above will be more than enough to keep me busy this year.

If I subscribed to Gamepass, I'd feel like I'm wasting money any time I'm playing games that aren't on Gamepass (which would be most of the time).

And yeah, I could subscribe only when there's something I want to play, then drop the sub when I go play Switch 2 for a month, but that's a pain in the ass. I've been buying games for over 30 years. I'll just keep doing that.
Ivynn posted...
But you get a nice selection of games to try out without having to spend money on each and every one of them, then try to decide in 2 hours if it's for you. Some people act like it's costing an arm and a leg when 20 bucks isn't really that much.


Just let it go man. This board has a fervent hate for anything Xbox. Just the way it is.
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Ivany2008 posted...
I've done stuff like that in the past.

If you've done stuff like that, that is your problem. You removed necessary things that you shouldn't have.
I love Game Pass. For awhile I was literally just blind downloading short games that looked interesting and knocking them out over the weekend. I've played so many games I wouldn't have otherwise
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