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https://www.ign.com/articles/hideo-kojima-made-significant-changes-to-death-stranding-2-because-playtesters-thought-it-was-too-good

Death Stranding 2: On the Beach creator, Hideo Kojima, reportedly changed the game halfway through because playtesting results were "too good," and he doesn't want his work to be "mainstream."
The revelation comes from Yoann "Woodkid" Lemoine, who worked closely with Kojima on the upcoming game's soundtrack. Talking to Rolling Stone , Lemoine talked about his process both with Kojima and without and the challenges of writing music for a medium that's changing in real-time as players progress through the game.
Interestingly, he also reflected on Kojima opening up about the "problem" of having players "like [Death Stranding 2] too much." "That means something is wrong," Kojima told him. "We have to change something."

"Theres a key moment where we had a discussion, probably halfway [through] when we were doing the game, where he came to me and he said, 'We have a problem,'" Woodkid explained.
"Then he said, 'Im going to be very honest, we have been testing the game with players and the results are too good. They like it too much. That means something is wrong; we have to change something.' And he changed stuff in the script and the way some crucial stuff [happens] in the game because he thought his work was not polarizing and not triggering enough emotions."
According to Kojima, "If everyone likes [your work], it means its mainstream. It means its conventional. It means its already pre-digested for people to like it."
"I dont want that," Kojima reportedly told Lemoine. "I want people to end up liking things they didnt like when they first encountered it, because thats where you really end up loving something."
Woodkid added "that was really a lesson for [him]," convincing him "not doing stuff to please people, but to make them shift a little bit and move them."
It'll probably just be bad like the first one
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HighSeraph posted...
It'll probably just be bad like the first one

looks like he succeeded at triggering your emotions with DS1
What a hack. I like MGS, but hes greatly overrated.
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so too many people potentially enjoying the game is a problem to him?

look Kojima, i love your work man but wtf are you on about??
Dude is a fucking hack.
He desperately needs someone to tell him when he's being a dumb fuck.
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He sounds like someone who likes to sniff their own farts.

I wish I had walked in here and you were taking a dump on the couch, or doing homework. Anything would be better than that.
CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
What a hack. I like MGS, but hes greatly overrated.

intended effect achieved Kojima is truly a visionary

ZevLoveDOOM posted...
so too many people potentially enjoying the game is a problem to him?

look Kojima, i love your work man but wtf are you on about??


Turbam posted...
Dude is a fucking hack.
He desperately needs someone to tell him when he's being a dumb fuck.


you guys better apologize when the game comes out and you know you play it and enjoy it and say Kojima is a visionary
WingsOfGood posted...
intended effect achieved Kojima is truly a visionary

you guys better apologize when the game comes out and you know you play it and enjoy it and say Kojima is a visionary
Only half of us will like it
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
bro why do i have the feeling this dude was teased in school for being a conformist or whatever and now he has to be different all the time for the sake of it no matter what? lol

You think he got teased in Japanese school for being a conformist?
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WingsOfGood posted...
intended effect achieved Kojima is truly a visionary

you guys better apologize when the game comes out and you know you play it and enjoy it and say Kojima is a visionary

I have thought all his games have been going progressively downhill since MGS3 and I really liked his early stuff. I thought DS was barely a game. I am glad some people enjoyed it, but I found it awful and wish it was just a movie instead, since that's clearly what he actually wants to make.
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I'll never dislike this Kojima. Too many great memories from his library of work.
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Turbam posted...
Only half of us will like it

that is the point

KOJIMA WE ARE NOT WORTHY
papayapanda posted...
I'll never dislike this Kojima. Too many great memories from his library of work.

so many emotions
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I think I get what he's shooting for. You know, free publicity and all. But he probably shouldn't be that transparent about it.
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KnightofShikari posted...

PSHAH
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The_Korey posted...
the koncept

dude how much Mortal Kombat have you played?
he's so up his own ass, lol
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
so too many people potentially enjoying the game is a problem to him?

look Kojima, i love your work man but wtf are you on about??

No, he's right. If you're not pissing enough people off, your work isn't great.
And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life?
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Evening_Dragon posted...
No, he's right. If you're not pissing enough people off, your work isn't great.

Neil Druckman confirmed GOAT
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sabin017 posted...
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fake
Dudes the GOAT for a reason. He wants to challenge his audience. Its cool that he said this to his composer of all people.
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guess I need to apologize to J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson

also George Lucas was that much more visionary than we ever realized
I bet Kojima and Zack Snyder would get along well.
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WingsOfGood posted...
Neil Druckman confirmed GOAT

this is a great point actually

neil gets attacked by people who will turn around and praise kojima
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Daremo posted...
I bet Kojima and Zack Snyder would get along well.

need Kojima to make Justice League game
I'm so hyped for this game
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And with this, Kojima's lost me. I could understand if he wanted the story to challenge people, but this is regarding the gameplay being too good. That's one area you shouldn't be thinking, "This needs to suck a little more."
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how did this happen?

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I feel like I kinda get where he's coming from? Divisive games typically end up being talked about for much longer than purely good games. There are exceptions of course.
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WingsOfGood posted...
how did this happen?

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I had a same time post
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Kojima is an artist rivaling even Da Vinci.
HighSeraph posted...
It'll probably just be bad like all the other crap kojima's had his hand in.

Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up.
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So even if you hate his games, he wins.

We are not worthy.
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I hope it works out for'em because I damn sure won't be dropping no 70/80/whatever on a game he intentionally wants to make divisive because testers was liking it too much, lol.

I will watch from the sidelines awesomely.
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St0rmFury posted...
So even if you hate his games, he wins.

We are not worthy.

astonishing

now everyone gonna act like they love it just to rub it in his face
As Western obsessed as he been for the past 40 ish years, I find it amusing he never put serious effort to learning English.
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Trumpo posted...
As Western obsessed as he been for the past 40 ish years, I find it amusing he never put serious effort to learning English.

He knows English. He uses a translator cause he's not comfortable enough using English in front of people.
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ok post 44 thats not cool to say

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AceMos posted...
this is a great point actually

neil gets attacked by people who will turn around and praise kojima
the difference is that neil has the impression that he thinks games are below him and that he really just wants to make movies and prestige tv

kojima is influenced by movies but his games are video games ass video games and have things that couldn't work in any other medium
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Whats up with this pseudo Mr. Robot-Cyberdine-cyber-monologue thinking shit yall are on?

Kojima is the GOAT, hes always been the GOAT

He always will be the GOAT. Switching that figure out isnt growing older or growing wise, its just doing what Kojima is doing for DS2 but without any merit.

Ie wanting to veer left just because you can lol

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some one criticizes miyamoto a person who has done far more for video games and no one bats an eye

you critique kojima and his fans come out of the wood work angry that you dare utter a single bad thing about kojimas games
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