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Bonus: Metroid Other M is abbreviated MOM lol
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Trash game
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Turbam posted...
Can't believe they made Samus a mommy
Dommy mommy Samus.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Trash game
*shrugs*

If you actually play to the end, the story kinda fixes itself to a degree. I always found it weird that people got so fixated on what was clearly just a means of barring your upgrades off and giving them back to you incrementally.

The bigger problem is the game is just not fun to play. The pixel hunts are infuriating, you're invincible as long as you keep tapping the d-pad, turning the controller to do missiles was dumb, and you have no reason to step off the beaten path unless you're just an obsessive completionist since the only upgrades are perfectly fungible and only serve to make this easy game even easier.
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I found nothing redeeming in the game at all. Everything was bad. And I'm a huge huge Metroid fan
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By far the worst game in the series.
Kaldrenthebold posted...
I found nothing redeeming in the game at all. Everything was bad. And I'm a huge huge Metroid fan
It was nice to look at. Seeing some of the old designs in 3D was cool.
Some of the soundtrack was decent.

Not fun to play though.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
I found nothing redeeming in the game at all. Everything was bad. And I'm a huge huge Metroid fan
Even Anthony Higgs? People seem to really like him (as someone who actually respected Samus), and I feel like he at least should get his own spinoff.
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Honestly I haven't played it since it came out. I remember taking the disc out and throwing it at one point. I really didn't like it lol
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Even Anthony Higgs? People seem to really like him (as someone who actually respected Samus), and I feel like he at least should get his own spinoff.
lol. I wouldn't mind, but can you imagine how hard of a sell it would be?

"There's a new Metroid game coming out."
"Aw cool, I always love playing as Samus."
"Oh, you don't play as Samus."
"Huh?"
"Yeah, it's a spinoff featuring one of the characters from other m."
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I feel like Higgs would work in an ensemble game. Like a hunters 2 or whatever.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
If you actually play to the end, the story kinda fixes itself to a degree. I always found it weird that people got so fixated on what was clearly just a means of barring your upgrades off and giving them back to you incrementally.

i did play it to the end and the story is still crap

from the ridley scene to adam shooting samus in the back

and yes i know about the ways the japanese version does things its still sexist

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It also took place on a station called the Bottle Shop, and she only went there to investigate the Crying Baby distress signal.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
If you actually play to the end, the story kinda fixes itself to a degree. I always found it weird that people got so fixated on what was clearly just a means of barring your upgrades off and giving them back to you incrementally.

I agree that at the end of the day it's just a mechanic to reset Samus to base, but in practice it created weird situations like having access to Lava areas that will literally kill you if you stay in there too long, AND having the suit upgrade that could keep you from taking damage, but not being allowed to use it because some guy over the radio says you can't. I get restricting immediate access to things like super missiles, but there needed to be a better reason for why Samus couldn't activate the defensive capabilities up front.
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s0nicfan posted...
I agree that at the end of the day it's just a mechanic to reset Samus to base, but in practice it created weird situations like having access to Lava areas that will literally kill you if you stay in there too long, AND having the suit upgrade that could keep you from taking damage, but not being allowed to use it because some guy over the radio says you can't. I get restricting immediate access to things like super missiles, but there needed to be a better reason for why Samus couldn't activate the defensive capabilities up front.
Regarding the bolded part, it was actually Samus's decision to restrict herself when she arrived, not Adam's. It still doesn't make any logical sense to disabling the suit's basic defenses and offenses, though.
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s0nicfan posted...
I agree that at the end of the day it's just a mechanic to reset Samus to base, but in practice it created weird situations like having access to Lava areas that will literally kill you if you stay in there too long, AND having the suit upgrade that could keep you from taking damage, but not being allowed to use it because some guy over the radio says you can't. I get restricting immediate access to things like super missiles, but there needed to be a better reason for why Samus couldn't activate the defensive capabilities up front.

here is a good reason

the suit gets damaged ala prime 1

and adam is working on restoring functions (so that samus can focus on exploring rather than doing various programing things with her suit)

samus goes to the heated area despite the danger and it gets turned online in time for the boss
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AceMos posted...
here is a good reason

the suit gets damaged ala prime 1

and adam is working on restoring functions (so that samus can focus on exploring rather than doing various programing things with her suit)

samus goes to the heated area despite the danger and it gets turned online in time for the boss

Oh, there's a million ways they could have written better. A damaged suit, some sort of technovirus, pretty much anything other than what they did. It wouldn't even be hard to justify because her suit is alien tech, so no one would really know how to repair it quickly.
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s0nicfan posted...
I agree that at the end of the day it's just a mechanic to reset Samus to base, but in practice it created weird situations like having access to Lava areas that will literally kill you if you stay in there too long, AND having the suit upgrade that could keep you from taking damage, but not being allowed to use it because some guy over the radio says you can't. I get restricting immediate access to things like super missiles, but there needed to be a better reason for why Samus couldn't activate the defensive capabilities up front.
That one was clearly because there were skeletons in the closet and Adam wanted to keep Samus from learning too much.

But the way I see it, it doesn't matter. The root problem is that they wanted to make a crappy game where everything is just given to you at the moment you need it instead of finding them through exploration, but everyone blames the handful of lines of dialog that tell you this instead.
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Evillink2000 posted...
By far the worst game in the series.
Federation Force?
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Shah138 posted...
Federation Force?
Nobody knows if that game is better or worse because nobody played it
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My take is that they shouldn't just abandon the idea of 3D, non-first-person Metroid because of Other M. Sure, the execution for it sucked hard, but it doesn't mean they can't try again. Especially since one of the more notable things about it, which is Samus getting more physical with the enemies to show off her agility and strength, is used in the Metroid 2 remake and Dread to great results and people generally like those games.

Shah138 posted...
Federation Force?
Depends what you consider "worst game in the series." Is it worst because it just doesn't play like a Metroid game at all? Then sure, it'd probably be alongside Prime Pinball in that regard. But as an actual game it's actually a pretty fun Metroid-themed extraction shooter. Just came out at a really bad time. Though having said that, though it can be played single-player it's clearly designed with co-op multiplayer in mind, and the online for 3DS is dead so it can't be used anymore.

Edit: If they basically just remade Federation Force as a multiplayer mode for Prime 4 I think it'd be much better received. Reason why I say it should be bundled with Prime 4 is because it unironically sets up for what Prime 4's plot is.
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Fusion will always have the best reason for Samus resetting her suit.
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Why did Samus cross the road?

To get to the Other M.

The real answer:

Because Adam told her to
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Prestoff posted...
Why did Samus cross the road?

To get to the Other M.

The real answer:

Because Adam told her to
The TRUE real answer:

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nocturnal_traveler posted...
Fusion will always have the best reason for Samus resetting her suit.
Fusion was brilliant in pretty much every way. Love that game.
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ReturnOfDevsman posted...
Yeah, everybody knew "Other M" was an anagram for "Mother" and the acronym was "MOM" back when the game first came out. Combined with the story elements of Samus constantly calling the hatchling "the baby" and the apparent "Bottle Ship" with a signal codenamed "baby's cry", I feel like Sakamoto is weirdly obsessed with the fact women can give birth and probably sees them only as birthing machines.
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Other M is maybe the earliest instance of "This game would have been a solid 7/10 if it weren't part of an existing franchise" that I can think of

like...it's a decent game, in and of itself, but when you try to make the story they wrote fit Samus in particular it just comes off as taking a big ol' dump on the series/bad fanfic. If they made it a wholly original thing it'd get flak for being Like Metroid but it wouldn't get actively hated
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Yeah, yeah

But once I went back and beat the game I felt better about it. You can beat it but you can never get over complaining when you have not beat it.
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Liked it better than Prime.

That's all I'll say about it.
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^Also didn't help that storytelling wasn't great either, leading to confusion on what certain scenes were supposed to be interpreted as.

And also that doesn't fix my main issue with the final meeting with Adam, which is ...the way he stopped Samus from killing herself by going into Sector Zero was, in itself, a risky maneuver that could've gotten her killed anyway. She was about to kill a Metroid in front of her, suddenly gets shot in the back that disables her suit, which makes her MORE vulnerable to the Metroid's attack, before he freezes it and kills it. Now, I wouldn't mind this if he somehow knew for a fact that particular Metroid could be frozen. Maybe that's what he says in the Japanese script. But in the English script, when Samus asks about it, HE MAKES A FUCKING GUESS. That means he didn't know for certain that Metroid could've been frozen, so what would've happened if the Metroid couldn't be frozen and his little stunt helped kill the very person he was trying to protect? Fucking dumb.

The scene was literally only there to give players a shock on "oh no the Deleter finally came after Samus" without thinking how logically, that action doesn't make sense for Adam to do. It'd be better if that Metroid wasn't there at all so Samus wouldn't be in danger, but I'd still think it a dick move for him to do.
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BakonBitz posted...
^Also didn't help that storytelling wasn't great either, leading to confusion on what certain scenes were supposed to be interpreted as.

And also that doesn't fix my main issue with the final meeting with Adam, which is ...the way he stopped Samus from killing herself by going into Sector Zero was, in itself, a risky maneuver that could've gotten her killed anyway. She was about to kill a Metroid in front of her, suddenly gets shot in the back that disables her suit, which makes her MORE vulnerable to the Metroid's attack, before he freezes it and kills it. Now, I wouldn't mind this if he somehow knew for a fact that particular Metroid could be frozen. Maybe that's what he says in the Japanese script. But in the English script, when Samus asks about it, HE MAKES A FUCKING GUESS. That means he didn't know for certain that Metroid could've been frozen, so what would've happened if the Metroid couldn't be frozen and his little stunt helped kill the very person he was trying to protect? Fucking dumb.

The scene was literally only there to give players a shock on "oh no the Deleter finally came after Samus" without thinking how logically, that action doesn't make sense for Adam to do. It'd be better if that Metroid wasn't there at all so Samus wouldn't be in danger, but I'd still think it a dick move for him to do.
The only thing Sakamoto thought was, "Hey, wouldn't it be interesting if Samus was suddenly ambush-attacked by someone? And then plot twist, we find out it was Adam!" You're right, it was just there as a "plot twist" scene just to surprise the audience. It's just shit writing from a shit writer.
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BakonBitz posted...
^Also didn't help that storytelling wasn't great either, leading to confusion on what certain scenes were supposed to be interpreted as.

And also that doesn't fix my main issue with the final meeting with Adam, which is ...the way he stopped Samus from killing herself by going into Sector Zero was, in itself, a risky maneuver that could've gotten her killed anyway. She was about to kill a Metroid in front of her, suddenly gets shot in the back that disables her suit, which makes her MORE vulnerable to the Metroid's attack, before he freezes it and kills it. Now, I wouldn't mind this if he somehow knew for a fact that particular Metroid could be frozen. Maybe that's what he says in the Japanese script. But in the English script, when Samus asks about it, HE MAKES A FUCKING GUESS. That means he didn't know for certain that Metroid could've been frozen, so what would've happened if the Metroid couldn't be frozen and his little stunt helped kill the very person he was trying to protect? Fucking dumb.

The scene was literally only there to give players a shock on "oh no the Deleter finally came after Samus" without thinking how logically, that action doesn't make sense for Adam to do. It'd be better if that Metroid wasn't there at all so Samus wouldn't be in danger, but I'd still think it a dick move for him to do.
You don't have to think about it that hard, tbh. It simply doesn't make sense for Adam to shoot her at all. It was the worst move he could have made regardless of the context.
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i hate how samus suit can just come off when she is in danger in other M

3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance*
I . . . kind of liked Other M? It took two attempts to complete it, but I had a good enough time the second go around. It's a pretty weird game that could have easily been much better.

One thing that it did exceptionally well is make Samus look like a total badass in combat. Team Ninja essentially took a character known for fighting with a ranged weapon and put her into a game with a ton of close quarters combat, which was an interesting choice. The dodge rolls, various firing stances, and killing animations did a great job of showcasing Samus' combat prowess. Sadly, it looks way cooler than it plays. The mechanics are definitely not as engaging as what she's doing would have you believe.
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At least the commercial was rad

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