Why the hell did the Jedi Council not make Anakin a master?

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A_Good_Boy
07/29/2025
12:28 AM
#1
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/4VBVDAOe98

Sure he was impulsive, quick to anger, had issues with authority, had huge issues with his ego, and slaughtered a Tusken here and there, but man that boy could fight! I bet nobody else on the council could choke a bitch while fighting another bitch. He should appeal the decision.
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Touch
07/29/2025
12:31 AM
#2
Because from his point of view it is the Jedi that are evil
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monkmith
07/29/2025
12:32 AM
#3
they got tired of hearing about his thesis on the story of darth plageius the wise. it drove yoda back to the pipe, and mace windu threatened to throw himself out the window if anakin was made master and he had to hear about the damn story one more time.
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St0rmFury
07/29/2025
12:35 AM
#4
Because Anakin wears leather.
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Spurner
07/29/2025
12:36 AM
#5
Podracer bias
A_Good_Boy
07/29/2025
12:36 AM
#6
Spurner posted...
Podracer bias
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OniLink5000
07/29/2025
12:39 AM
#7
because he did not submit the proper paperwork by the deadline.
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Tenaku
07/29/2025
12:41 AM
#8
Frequent opinion in YouTube comments:

If Anakin had waited in the council chambers until Mace Windu returned after dealing with Palpatine, he would have made Anakin a master right then and there.

Anybody here think so?
DarthEnvoy
07/29/2025
12:42 AM
#9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoNxwIybqYg
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/29/2025
12:43 AM
#10
Oh, I was gonna make a serious comment to answer TC, lol.

Tenaku posted...
If Anakin had waited in the council chambers until Mace Windu returned after dealing with Palpatine, he would have made Anakin a master right then and there.
Doubt he would have made him a master, but I do think things would have been different between Anakin and Windu.

The weird thing is that Mace vouched for Anakin in AotC.
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monkmith
07/29/2025
12:45 AM
#11
Tenaku posted...
Frequent opinion in YouTube comments:

If Anakin had waited in the council chambers until Mace Windu returned after dealing with Palpatine, he would have made Anakin a master right then and there.

Anybody here think so?
windu would have died and anakin would have been killed with all the other jedi when the clones stormed the building.
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A_Good_Boy
07/29/2025
12:48 AM
#12
DarthEnvoy posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoNxwIybqYg
This is exactly why the Jedi are evil.
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darkknight109
07/29/2025
12:53 AM
#13
Because then the story wouldn't have happened.
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SSj4Wingzero
07/29/2025
12:54 AM
#14
Palpatine probably expected Anakin to show up (there are some theories that he used his dark side powers to cloud Anakin's judgment and make Anakin think that he had to save Palpatine to save his wife), but I'm sure he had some contingency plan to take down Windu and the rest of the Jedi in case Anakin didn't show up to save him.

Palpatine never *needed* Anakin - his plans to destroy the Jedi and rule the galaxy could have succeeded without Anakin. There was just something poetic and humiliating to the Jedi about turning the literal *CHOSEN ONE* into a Sith apprentice - talk about the ultimate "fuck you" to the Jedi
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Mistere_Man
07/29/2025
12:59 AM
#15
Well to be honest he hadnt fulfilled the main requirement to become a Master. Obi Wan didnt reach the rank of Master until he had trained a Palawan to knighthood, Anakin's student was expelled before that.

Water+Fall=Radiation.
SAlYAN
07/29/2025
01:04 AM
#16
Anakin in no way deserved to be a master.

Being a good fighter doesn't make you a good priest. Hell, being a good fighter is basically meaningless to the jedi, considering they're, you know, supposed to be pacifists.

Anakin was a great general but a crappy jedi.
Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter.
A_Good_Boy
07/29/2025
01:10 AM
#17
Mistere_Man posted...
Well to be honest he hadnt fulfilled the main requirement to become a Master. Obi Wan didnt reach the rank of Master until he had trained a Palawan to knighthood, Anakin's student was expelled before that.
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darkknight109
07/29/2025
01:28 AM
#18
SSj4Wingzero posted...
Palpatine probably expected Anakin to show up
There is zero chance he didn't. If he didn't think Anakin was coming, he had no reason to even be at that office in the first place, given that he knew the Jedi were on their way to arrest him. Unless he set that entire confrontation up to convert Anakin to his side (which it sure as hell looks like he did), his best bet would have just been to flee and issue Order 66 from the safety of his personal shuttle.
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Verdekal
07/29/2025
01:31 AM
#19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOjsYr-ZxCQ&pp=ygUVQW5ha2lucyBtYXN0ZXIgdGhlc2lz
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Mistere_Man
07/29/2025
01:58 AM
#20
Verdekal posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOjsYr-ZxCQ&pp=ygUVQW5ha2lucyBtYXN0ZXIgdGhlc2lz

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0SmgoSMg4
Water+Fall=Radiation.
OneSpookyGirl
07/29/2025
02:17 AM
#21
iirc, the original canon reasons are that, first, he was very obviously not emotionally ready and, second, Chancellor Palpatine ordered it. He wanted Anakin on the Council as his proxy. They did not trust Anakin, but this is about the time they started to grow more suspicious of Palpatine's ambitions as well. They only conceded him the Council seat, because they were in the middle of a war and causing political problems with the Republic would have been undesireable. Naturally, this was a setup by Palpatine to drive a wedge between Anakin and the Jedi. He knew they wouldn't make him a Master and that it would trigger all of his insecurities, anxieties, and suspicions over his role, not being trusted, etc., along with being denied access to potential Jedi knowledge that could save Padm.

idk how much of this has been consigned to Legends now, though.
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Enclave
07/29/2025
04:03 AM
#22
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b8f78844.jpg
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xsdarknesssx
07/29/2025
07:37 AM
#23
Asoka as a character was not even created until after the prequel trilogy came out, so the idea that Anakin would have been given the rank of master when he was put on the council is ridiculous considering he had never even had a padawan in the original prequel timeline.

Maybe that was something that would have been done if he stayed in the temple and Windu was able to kill Palpatine, but even then, going by the original timeline of the prequels before the clone wars movie/cartoon series he had pretty much zero qualifications outside of being the chosen one.
Mechu
07/29/2025
07:38 AM
#24
Going by the movies, Anakin should never have been a Jedi, let alone on the Council or a Master.
St0rmFury
07/29/2025
07:50 AM
#25
Mechu posted...
Going by the movies, Anakin should never have been a Jedi, let alone on the Council or a Master.
Because he's too old?
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ssb_yunglink2
07/29/2025
07:54 AM
#26
Yeah without Ahsoka existing in the trilogy how exactly was he up for master in the first place
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Starks
07/29/2025
07:58 AM
#27
The moment Anakin met Mundi, Anakin should have understood that becoming a master could take decades and far more wisdom than either of them would ever show.
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WingsOfGood
07/29/2025
08:01 AM
#28
Mechu posted...
Going by the movies, Anakin should never have been a Jedi, let alone on the Council or a Master.

From a certain point of view
monkmith
07/29/2025
08:03 AM
#29
revenge of the sith book went into more detail about the palp/windu fight. mace wasn't winning against palp. palp had way more strength and was powering through maces innate defense against the dark side. the whole scene with palp on the ground and mace standing over him was contrived by palp because he knew anakin was about to show up. if anakin never showed up palp would have just killed mace and then order 66'd the jedi, anakin included.

palp wanted anakin as a tool, but he didn't need him. he never wanted an actual apprentice.
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Takuya_Lee
07/29/2025
08:28 AM
#30
Anakin was never made a master because he couldn't be trusted not to kill the younglings. Although that's Obi Wan's too. He never should had taught Anakin the theoretical YMMs
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AceMos
07/29/2025
08:37 AM
#31
Mistere_Man posted...
Well to be honest he hadnt fulfilled the main requirement to become a Master. Obi Wan didnt reach the rank of Master until he had trained a Palawan to knighthood, Anakin's student was expelled before that.

ahsoka was offered knighthood after she was proven innocent she chose to leave the order thoe do to them betraying her so casually

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wackyteen
07/29/2025
08:47 AM
#32
OneSpookyGirl posted...
iirc, the original canon reasons are that, first, he was very obviously not emotionally ready and, second, Chancellor Palpatine ordered it.
It's this.

He hadn't met the perceived training a Padawan fully requirement and was not emotionally stable. Though that plays second fiddle to the fact that Palpatine ordered Anakin's presence on the Council.

They couldn't give him all the rights and privileges afforded to Jedi Masters because if Palpatine was ordering Anakin to basically spy and report on Council meetings, then what else would Palpatine order Anakin to go snoop around and find? Info in the (restricted) Archives? Not granting him the rank of Master at the immediate moment was the logical and sensical move based on the limited information and increasing suspicions they had of Palpatine's motives.

Add in events from The Clone Wars where the Jedi Archives had already been successfully infiltrated and stolen from. Cad Bane stole a (partial) list of Force Sensitive children, abducted a Jedi Master then murdered him (via torture to death). Bane also stole the necessary crystal to access that specific list and (unsure if the Council was fully aware of Anakin's role here) used Anakin to gain access to the list. Anakin potentially sacrificed every child on that list to save just one person, his own Padawan. Which demonstrated his routine/continual inability to put the needs of the Order first and inability to let go of his attachments to others. All that just adds to the reality that the Order was under threat and that Anakin could not be trusted to not be manipulated into delivering (old) Jedi secrets to Palpatine (or someone needing something from Palpatine).
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NoSite4OldCEmen
07/29/2025
08:48 AM
#33
A_Good_Boy posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/4VBVDAOe98

Sure he was impulsive, quick to anger, had issues with authority, had huge issues with his ego, and slaughtered a Tusken here and there, but man that boy could fight! I bet nobody else on the council could choke a bitch while fighting another bitch. He should appeal the decision.

A master knows not just how to choke a bitch but when to choke a bitch.
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