RFK Jr fired all 17 members of the CDC's vaccine committee in June

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ostensibly for being hopelessly corrupt due to conflicts of interests (COI).

New study finds that COI in vaccine committees have been plunging for decades:
https://www.biospace.com/policy/conflicts-of-interest-in-vaccine-committees-have-been-plunging-for-decades

A new study in JAMA contradicts a series of statements made by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that paint vaccine advisory committees at the CDC and FDA as hopelessly corrupt.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has made conflicts of interest in science a huge talking point and a staple of his Make America Healthy Again platform.

Conflicts of interest (COIs) were, ostensibly, the reason that Kennedy fired all 17 members of the CDCs Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices this June, declaring in a Wall Street Journal op-ed that the committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine.

The scientific community decried the move, callingallegations of COIs a red herring. Researchers have now presented hard figures contradicting the secretarys assertions. In a new paper published Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association , three policy analysts crunched the numbers and showed that while ACIP and the FDAs similar advisory group, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC), had once been plagued by COIs, the issue has over the last 25 years dwindled significantly in scope.

Since the turn of the millennium, theres been greater scrutiny of industry influence over all areas of medicine, Genevieve Kanter, a co-author on the paper and associate professor of public policy at the University of Southern California, told BioSpace .

Using meeting transcripts and a database of declared conflicts by ACIP members recently set up by HHS, the researchers tallied the rates of COIs reported by members of both committees this century. Between 2000 and 2024, reported conflicts of interest among members of ACIP declined from 42.8% in 2000 to 5.0% in 2024. Over the same period, the reported COI prevalence for VRBPAC meetings fell from 11.1% to less than 4.0%. VRBPAC also had a full decade when COIs sat at 0%.

Nevertheless, COIs have been a primary area of focus for Kennedyand his Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement. A report released in May by Kennedys MAHA Commission took aim at pharma lobbying and conflicts of interest (COIs) on regulatory advisory committees, and a draft copy of an upcoming strategy report by the commission again touches on the issue, with plans for HHS to establish a public database to disclose financial relationships, mandate recusal requirements consistent with the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) for individuals/organizations with conflicts of interest, and prioritize the use of independent, conflict-free research for federal health guidelines.

But according to Peter Lurie, co-author of the JAMA paper, COIs at the agency are largely under control. There have been all these allegations that the FDA is corrupt, in effect, and these officials at CDC are plagued by COIs, and that wasnt my experience in my time at the FDA, Lurie, president of the Center for Science in the Public Interest and a former associate commissioner at the FDA, told BioSpace .

As Kanter pointed out, some level of COIs are to be expected among vaccine researchers, especially if members of an advisory committee are supposed to have expertise in their field.

Most of the COIs are related to research, which is not surprising. Thats the kind of expertise that you want on board, she said. Usually when people think of COIs theyre thinking of personal enrichment. Research isnt that. Financial COIs are the small minority of these conflicts.

Financial COIs, like ownership of stock, consulting fees or royalties, were a tiny fraction of reported COIs for both committees, accounting for less than 1% since 2016.

Lurie additionally noted that Kennedys own statistics and sources were skewed to make ACIP look corrupt. During his confirmation hearing in January, Kennedy stated that 97% of people on [ACIP] had conflicts, citing a U.S. House reportfrom 2000. Kennedy is using a study done 25 years [ago] that found COIs were very high, but that looked at a single committee, Lurie said.

The House report in question tallied COIs from a single working group within ACIP focused on rotavirus vaccines that, in 1998, voted to add rotavirus vaccines to infant immunization schedules. The report itself states that several members held patents and grants from pharmaceutical companies related to rotavirus vaccine research. One member, Paul Offit, also disclosed that he is paid by the pharmaceutical industry to travel around the country and teach doctors that vaccines are safe, the report read.

Kanter and Lurie reiterated that over the past few decades, pharmaceutical COIs have been taken more and more seriously by both the CDC and FDA, though both agencies have their own approaches to dealing with them. At ACIP, if a member has a conflict with a particular issue being discussed at a meeting, they are expected to recuse themselves from discussion and the vote around that issue, but may still attend the meeting, since ACIP meetings often discuss multiple products.

The FDA is more stringent, as VRBPAC meetings discuss only one or two products at a time. If a committee members reported conflicts are deemed too great, the FDA will refuse that member entry to a meeting or grant a waiver, if the members expertise is determined to be indispensable. As the JAMA paper pointed out, waivers at the FDA tend to be rare, occurring in only 2% of meetings, while recusals are more common, taking place at 8.1% of meetings.

For a research study, its remarkably clear, Lurie said. COIs are going down, which is completely inconsistent with the secretarys depiction.
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The conflict is that they were actual experts
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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life."
RFK Jr actively trying to kill us all.
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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts

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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts
That's literally the "problem." Who should we have on a committee? Leading experts. How do you get leading experts? Pick from people who have worked on the subject.
Idiots look at this connection and see corruption when it's really just the fact that there's a small pool of people in a particular field of study.
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I think I need to avoid RFK Jr. threads. I already lost access to CE once largely in part to him being in a picture lol.

The seething hatred I have for this reprehensible sack of shit who has been directly responsible for so many people already dead and yet to die is indescribably incompatible with social media ToS.
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Kradek posted...
I think I need to avoid RFK Jr. threads. I already lost access to CE once largely in part to him being in a picture lol.

The seething hatred I have for this reprehensible sack of shit who has been directly responsible for so many people already dead and yet to die is indescribably incompatible with social media ToS.
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PballDepot posted...
RFK Jr actively trying to kill us all.


we're all concerned if one of these childhood diseases somehow mutate and infect people again :(.

i'm all for vaccination.
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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts

Fucking /t
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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts

Gold star reply!

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I'm sure RFK will change his mind based on this new report!
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I'm sure it's a completely unbias study.
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RFK Jr is one of the worst, most dangerous people on the planet. And I fucking hate him.
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Hey now, according to Chris Pratt were just being petty for not being able to celebrate this man's accomplishments.
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Link_of_time posted...
Hey now, according to Chris Pratt were just being petty for not being able to celebrate this man's accomplishments.
Funny enough the left would be more than willing to celebrate RFK jr's accomplishments as an environmental lawyer. Thing is Trump and Republicans have ether destroyed or are destroying those accomplishments and Kennedy doesn't care.
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I really have no heart for people like RFK when he is trying to kill people. On purpose.
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creativerealms posted...
I'm sure it's a completely unbias study.
At least its published in a reputed journal and went through peer-review.
Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage".
Farron is probably gonna get demonetized when he talks about this, jesus fucking christ, that eerie prediction about as bad as Trump's first term was RFK is going to kill many many more by the time this administration is over
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HighSeraph posted...
The conflict is that they were actual experts

^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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