Does the US deserve to lose global hegemony to China?

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012yArthur0 posted...
For as much the anti-west ideology that is around, I find China government far less trustworthy than USA.
You'd trust anything that comes out under the current Trump administration?
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LightSnake posted...
Still trolled in favor of the GOP for years. Not gonna forget it.

You thought it was so funny and clever when you posted the "HILLARY!!!!" topics even as Trump was fucking up the country.
Hillary helped made sure we got a Trump presidency. Having resentment towards her is natural.
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hivebent4life posted...
You'd trust anything that comes out under the current Trump administration?
Thats not saying the Trump admin is trustworthy. Theyre saying the Chinese government is still worse
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hivebent4life posted...
Hillary helped made sure we got a Trump presidency. Having resentment towards her is natural.
Are we still blaming Hillary for Trump in 2025 lmao
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Thats not saying the Trump admin is trustworthy. Theyre saying the Chinese government is still worse
Given the shit spewing from RFK's mouth, and what Trump was posting on his Truth yesterday, I'd trust the Chinese government over the Trump administration
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Are we still blaming Hillary for Trump in 2025 lmao
This is LightSnake still being upset about things I said during Trump's first term
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hivebent4life posted...
This is LightSnake still being upset about things I said during Trump's first term

You never opposed a damn thing Trump was doing. You were too busy trolling in his favor.

Hillary Clinton did more to oppose Trump than you ever did
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hivebent4life posted...
Given the shit spewing from RFK's mouth, and what Trump was posting on his Truth yesterday, I'd trust the Chinese government over the Trump administration
You should not blindly trust either. Both governments are seeking to play a narrative that benefits them.

China is not your friend, the US is obviously not your friend. Dont take the words of a fully fledged authoritarian government nor one thats trying hard to get there at face value.

Do not forget that China was not upfront about Covid when it happened either. They also still deny their own genocide.
Hee Ho
"Uyghur ethnic cleansing is western propaganda" is certainly a take when trying to argue moral superiority between global superpowers
China isnt much better, but at least they believe in renewables as the future. Nuff said
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I'm not sure the US has "global hegemony". It can't do anything it wants now as it is.

I think the next step in America's decline is going from "America & Company" to "Europe & Friends".
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hivebent4life posted...
The US attaining global hegemony was a horrible thing for quality of life worldwide, including within the US itself.
Let's not get too crazy here.
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Global hegemony is not going to be passed to another country. Its going to be passed to a conglomerate.
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hivebent4life posted...
I would take a communist dictatorship over a fascist dictatorship any day if I have to choose a dictatorship.
Communism by definition cannot be a dictatorship

Please stop posting
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The US deserves to lose it, but China is hardly the ideal candidate to take over it.

Not that anyone else with an even semi-realistic shot at it is much better.
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Frankly there won't be another global hegemony.

We're looking at hitting 3.0C degrees of warming by 2050 based on current data and trajectories (civilization ceases to exist at around 2.6C of warming, and starts struggling at 2.0C.)

We're headed for a decade or two where the world is unstable with multiple blocs attempting to maintain power over the world order before a very rapid and very large collapse of civilization, and with it any capacity for a global hegemony.

The US absolutely deserves to lose it though. The US is the reason we're all dead people walking. The US and their fossil fuel mega corporations.

China won't get it, but frankly considering they're doing more to avert the complete extinction of the species than the US is (because at least they seem to understand there's no point ruling to leave a legacy if the world ceases to exist) they deserve it more than the US does.
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M1Astray posted...
Frankly there won't be another global hegemony.

We're looking at hitting 3.0C degrees of warming by 2050 based on current data and trajectories (civilization ceases to exist at around 2.6C of warming, and starts struggling at 2.0C.)

We're headed for a decade or two where the world is unstable with multiple blocs attempting to maintain power over the world order before a very rapid and very large collapse of civilization, and with it any capacity for a global hegemony.

The US absolutely deserves to lose it though. The US is the reason we're all dead people walking. The US and their fossil fuel mega corporations.

China won't get it, but frankly considering they're doing more to avert the complete extinction of the species than the US is (because at least they seem to understand there's no point ruling to leave a legacy if the world ceases to exist) they deserve it more than the US does.
Its because they are at least thinking of the future of the entire nation, while the US only considers the future of a couple of elderly billionaires that will be gone by 2050
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People are seriously insane if they think that China is better than the US. China is currently cutting organs out of Uyghurs.
hivebent4life posted...
Its because they are at least thinking of the future of the entire nation, while the US only considers the future of a couple of elderly billionaires that will be gone by 2050

China's suppression of dissent is far more serious than America's (right now anyway), and China has certainly committed many human rights violations. But China's leaders at least have some vision for the future and are ostensibly trying to improve their country for the sake of some sort of progress. Their leaders are authoritarian and horrible, but I do not believe that China's leaders wake up every morning thinking about how to make China a worse place. Trump and the GOP? I *do* think that they wake up every morning with the goal of making life shittier for non-MAGA Americans.

The GOP is trying to adopt all of China's negative traits without taking on any of its positive ones. If we're going to steer towards authoritarian repression, can at least get some nuclear power plants, massive solar power farms, high-speed rail connecting all of our major cities, futuristic mixed-use housing developments, and subsidized mass transit?

Because Trump's administration is embracing authoritarianism all for the sake of making our quality of life substantially worse, and that's sad.
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As bad as the US has been the last few years, China is still unarguably worse.
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It is crystal clear that the US deserves to lose its hegemon status.

China seems the likeliest to assume that role (if anyone does), but that wouldn't be much of an improvement (if any). It would definitely be less random, which could be a plus or a minus.
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Deserve doesn't have anything to do with it.

It's just a consequence of Trump's government making the US weaker and alienating other nations.
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ai123 posted...
Deserve doesn't have anything to do with it.

It's just a consequence of Trump's government making the US weaker and alienating other nations.
Yeah, this.
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