Do we have many tankies on CE?Most of them has been banned
Either way, shut the fuck up Hasan. This nonsense hurts trans people.
Aren't you one of the people who complained about how Harris didn't mention trans rights enough?I have said she didn't mention trans rights at all in relation to Republicans making trans people a pillar of their attack on her, which is more a criticism of them than her.
I wouldn't blame them for everything, but what isnt being acknowledged is theres some who think they shouldnt be held accountable for anything. Or the delusional position that the narrative they push or defend is inconsequential.So being more critical of the dems than republicans is bad, but what about being more critical of leftists / protest voters than republicans?
And yes, talking about Democrats more than Republicans is something to criticize. Having every excuse under the sun why you think its prudent to focus on being critical of Democrats more than the Republicans,.... is something to criticize. Republicans, you know the people who hold the majority in the House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court yet, "lets protest Obama!"
Even more comical is when protest voters are criticized, the defenders hide behind the disingenuous question of, "wElL wHeN iS iT oK tO CrItIcIzE dEmOcRaTs?"
Its a question that intentionally at this point tap dances around its not about being critical of Democrats. Its about being more critical of Democrats than Republicans.
"Would (X minority) group be any safer with Harris if she just acted like Trump" is such a stupid goddamn question.
it's sad even half the people in this topic didn't get it.Do you not recognize that this is the same situation with gay marriage and Israel?
The question is a straw man. Would trans people be safer if Harris was elected? Yes. Would they be safer than they are now if, in some imaginary world, Harris avoided making trans rights a wedge issue (she didn't do that)? Yes.
Politicians need to win elections, period. It's understandable that saying something you don't agree with, like supporting Israel, angers you. They are literally trying to get the other side to believe they believe what they say. But you still need to recognize that electing Biden or Harris who say they support Israel is better for Palestinians than Trump, for example. That electing Obama, who says he doesn't support gay marriage, is better for gay people.
So this is the guy we're supposed to prop up as a "hero" of the broader left?
https://www.out.com/media/hasan-piker-trans-people-kamala-harris
I'll just repost the exact same thing I posted in your other topic about this exact same thing from yesterday:He's still wrong though because you can move rightwards on certain rhetoric without going to the extreme of actual policy changes that the Trump admin has done
He was saying if Harris (and the dems) moved to the right on trans issues and adopted more anti-trans rhetoric to win elections, then that wouldn't be a better environment for trans people even of she won. Because you have ceded ground to false right wing framing on the issue and now there is no counter messaging. He also argues that strategy wouldn't even work electorally because transphobes would still vote for the Republicans.
Hes arguing the democratic party should not abandon the trans community as some have suggested, in an attempt to appeal to a "broader" electorate.
https://twitter.com/Awk20000/status/1973054628230046180
And this was referring to the conversation ta nahesi Coates's and ezra Klein had where Klein was defending his puff piece on Charlie Kirk by arguing the Democrats need to expand their base, while coates argued we should not do that at the detriment of marginalized groups
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/074612cc.jpgBetween him and Kirk they couldve had a normal head.
this topic been cursed with the small head Hasan meme.
I stress again:Well said
If the Left protest vote wants people to stop blaming them, they're free to stop demanding everyone obey them or lose.