Should I bother with all the endgame stuff in KH1?

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Accolon
10/03/2025
12:21 PM
#1
I feel like I should beat all the optional bosses, but prepping for that is such a slog.
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FrozenBananas
10/03/2025
12:23 PM
#2
Sephiroth is the only one to give me trouble, but overall I remember they were pretty fun boss fights
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Xerun
10/03/2025
02:03 PM
#4
if youre somehow playing vanilla KH1 then no real need to do it other than enjoyment or if youre playing the medium difficulty and want to go for the secret ending that requires 100% journal completion (I think it may be easy difficulty)

if youre doing KH1FM then yeah each one drops Ansem Journals and is worth going for. Plus the second secret ending is very worth getting and they may be a requirement for 100% journal completion depending on your difficulty level
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Srk700
10/03/2025
02:12 PM
#5
The optional bosses were fun. Getting the Ultima Weapon was not. When I last played the game through the collection, I ended up giving up on getting the UW since it was such a slog to get the materials for it and just focused on doing all of the other optional content. UW isnt really needed anyway since you still become extremely powerful at later levels even without it.
kingdrake2
10/03/2025
02:12 PM
#6
FrozenBananas posted...
Sephiroth is the only one to give me trouble,


oh fuck that fight :(.

that is worse than dealing with DMC remake on the hardest difficulty.
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jumi
10/03/2025
07:58 PM
#7
Not the Sephiroth fight. But the others, yeah.

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kingdrake2
10/04/2025
01:02 PM
#9
ImAMarvel posted...
Sephiroth is significantly easier than anything on DMD in any DMC game. It's literally babby's first difficult boss. >_>


i probably have a chance now. back then i wasn't as smart when it came to gameplay and didn't have walkthrough guides due to no computer.
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Squall28
10/04/2025
01:04 PM
#10
Sephiroth fight is worth doing because of how iconic it is.
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SaikyoStyle
10/04/2025
01:05 PM
#11
kingdrake2 posted...
oh fuck that fight :(.

that is worse than dealing with DMC remake on the hardest difficulty.
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Unknown5uspect
10/04/2025
01:06 PM
#12
Sephiroth at least looks and feels much more bearable than Mansex where the strat is basically pop Tink, mash X, and just pray.
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Letsago
10/04/2025
01:10 PM
#14
I never got Ultima Weapon in the first game. I think the secret bosses are fun, overall Phantom can be annoying annoying if you don't like its gimmicks
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Mussurana
10/04/2025
01:22 PM
#15
SaikyoStyle posted...
Strike Raid and he goes down like hes late on his rent.

Been a while, but I also remember that being effective.

Seem to recall Aeroga being cheap too?
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Accolon
10/04/2025
01:24 PM
#16
When I beat Sephiroth in the OG PS2 version, I just remember dodge rolling constantly, and slowly chipping away his health during the brief openings
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RasterGraphic
10/04/2025
01:25 PM
#17
I always had fun with the Sephiroth fight but never really took it seriously.
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Accolon
10/06/2025
11:41 AM
#18
Farming the 7 Serenity Powers I need to finish synthesis is going to suck.
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HudGard
10/06/2025
11:43 AM
#19
The bosses are fun. The Mushroom/materials quests can be a bit of a slog.
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Phantom_Nook
10/06/2025
11:44 AM
#20
last time I played was when I finally went to get Ultima Weapon. it was annoying to grind everything, and by the time I had it I was high enough level that I could brute force my way through a lot of Sephy's attacks. next time I play I'll try to beat him without it.
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Letsago
10/06/2025
11:47 AM
#21
For anyone who's gotten Ultima Weapon in both, was it worse in the original or Final Mix? I know they added a bunch of gimmicky Heartless in the Final Mix
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loafy013
10/06/2025
12:51 PM
#22
For super bosses, I only remember the Ice Titan since that was my preferred method to level up. Stand far away and just keep blocking his projectiles.
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ReturnOfDevsman
10/06/2025
12:55 PM
#23
KH1 Seph is freaking great.
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Zikten
10/06/2025
12:57 PM
#24
ReturnOfDevsman posted...
KH1 Seph is freaking great.
From what I remember, he's fun to fight, once you learn his pattern.
Raycon
10/06/2025
12:59 PM
#25
Letsago posted...
For anyone who's gotten Ultima Weapon in both, was it worse in the original or Final Mix? I know they added a bunch of gimmicky Heartless in the Final Mix


The process is much more tedious in FM. It used to almost nothing to get it in the original KH. There are so many new enemies you have to kill in frustratingly specific ways over and over again to complete synthesis. It was still kind of worth it, but it is no longer something I look forward to.
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PerseusRad
10/06/2025
01:03 PM
#26
Im pretty sure Sephs AI changed from the PS2 version to the HD versions, for the harder. Like he uses the fire pillar a lot more, or something like that.
Xerun
10/06/2025
01:34 PM
#27
Raycon posted...
The process is much more tedious in FM. It used to almost nothing to get it in the original KH. There are so many new enemies you have to kill in frustratingly specific ways over and over again to complete synthesis. It was still kind of worth it, but it is no longer something I look forward to.


I feel an outlier because I love the new heartless and grinding for the Ultima Weapon in KH1FM is legitimately one of my favourite things to do.

Outside Dark Matter farming of course
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Accolon
10/07/2025
09:13 AM
#28
Finished all the optional bosses. Unkown was actually pretty easy.

Sephiroth was a pain in the ass, but I leveled up to 90, watched a strategy video, and wiped the floor with him.
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Accolon
10/08/2025
08:50 AM
#29
Finished KH1 with the super secret ending.

Now I'm on to Re: Chain of Memories, a game which I still don't understand.
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BlueBoy675
10/08/2025
08:52 AM
#30
I didnt read the whole thread but I love KH1s super bosses. I think theyre fun. For Kurt Zisa you can cheese and summon Tinkerbell the second the fight starts before he magic locks you.
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
10/08/2025
08:54 AM
#31
The Phantom fight is still, to this day, some of the most fun I've ever had in a game.
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ReturnOfDevsman
10/08/2025
09:00 AM
#32
Accolon posted...
Finished KH1 with the super secret ending.

Now I'm on to Re: Chain of Memories, a game which I still don't understand.
Yeah, the story goes kinda nuts pretty much the second 1 ends. Chain of Memories is honestly one of the more straightforward ones. The trick is not to think too hard about it. And I don't mean like there are plot holes that you have to overlook. I mean a significant portion of the dialog is spent as an overly intricate handwave of things that are supposed to be beyond the audience's scope of interest.

Like, instead of just saying "magic," they pull the fantasy equivalent of a Star Trek explanation, where you're supposed to go "I didn't get all that but it sounds complicated and magic-y so sure."
Arguing on CE be all like:
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PurestProdigy
10/08/2025
09:07 AM
#33
Accolon posted...
When I beat Sephiroth in the OG PS2 version, I just remember dodge rolling constantly, and slowly chipping away his health during the brief openings
It was worth going to the end of the last stage to get the glide I remember in order to go back and beat him
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Phantom_Nook
10/08/2025
11:45 AM
#34
Accolon posted...
Finished KH1 with the super secret ending.

Now I'm on to Re: Chain of Memories, a game which I still don't understand.
CoM is definitely my least preferred KH game. I've only played through it once on the collection just so that I can say I did, and by the middle of Riku's story, I was just powering through to the end.
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BlueBoy675
10/08/2025
11:49 AM
#35
Com was actually better on GBA in my opinion. The card system lends itself to the 2D battles a lot better than 3D. The remake just feels like youre playing a worse version of KH1 while the GBA original at least had a unique feel to it and a certain kind of charm. I still really like the sprite work in that game
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Letsago
10/08/2025
12:07 PM
#36
Phantom_Nook posted...
CoM is definitely my least preferred KH game. I've only played through it once on the collection just so that I can say I did, and by the middle of Riku's story, I was just powering through to the end.
I actually liked Riku's story more because I don't have to worry about building an optimal deck.
I'm not a huge fan of the combat in that game but the bosses can still be enjoyable. But CoM has the most monotonous and repetitive gameplay in the series overall (aside from the UX games I guess, since those were gacha). You just spend hours going through identically-shaped rooms and fighting Heartless.

It's a shame, because I really like the story in CoM. I think it's the most well-written game in the series.
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Srk700
10/08/2025
12:56 PM
#37
When I did a KH series playthrough in preparation for KH3, I ended up giving up on CoM after about 5 hours in because I found it painfully boring. I just ended watching a video with just the cutscenes from it to get the story of the game.
ReturnOfDevsman
10/08/2025
01:11 PM
#38
Yeah, CoM takes the filler concept to the max. Not only is the story mostly filler (actually, it might be less so than some other games in the series), but almost every room in almost every floor is so unashamedly filler gameplay-wise that they straight up let you choose which of a couple of predefined rooms you want to be on the other side of almost every door.
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Xerun
10/08/2025
03:41 PM
#39
CoM would be way better if it cut out a few of the starting floors and gave more than one room card as a reward at the end of battle.

It feels like it drags too long at the start before it gets interesting and when it finally does get interesting you end up unnecessarily grinding because you need a Blue 8 Room card to progress and its decided you only get Green for 6 battle rewards.

it was more fun on 2D too

I dont mind it but its way too long for what it is.
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Unknown5uspect
10/08/2025
04:04 PM
#40
Xerun posted...
it was more fun on 2D too
It helped that it was specifically designed for 2D and I hate that they didn't keep that. ReCoM is kind of ass.
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Xerun
10/08/2025
04:25 PM
#41
Unknown5uspect posted...
It helped that it was specifically designed for 2D and I hate that they didn't keep that. ReCoM is kind of ass.


It may just be my memory but I also remember Sora appearing more op in the 2D since a lot of the sleights had better hitboxes due to the 2d

it seems the few times Ive played ReCoM that Sora misses more often than not
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Hambo
10/08/2025
04:43 PM
#42
I never finished ReCoM. I didn't like trying to manage the deck while also having to deal with the camera and lock-on. Scrambling to find the cards I wanted was already frantic enough in CoM. Now and then I consider going back to finish it to see the new fights and Riku's new gimmick, but meh.
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Accolon
10/09/2025
12:48 PM
#43
Sora is supposed to be 14 in KH1? I thought he was like, 10.

Also, puberty hit hard between KH1 and CoM, Sora sounds completely different.
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ReturnOfDevsman
10/09/2025
01:08 PM
#44
Accolon posted...
Sora is supposed to be 14 in KH1? I thought he was like, 10.

Also, puberty hit hard between KH1 and CoM, Sora sounds completely different.
It's one of the drawbacks to using the same VA, yet not allowing the character to age along with.

ReCoM released 6 years after KH1.

You can imagine how a kid who sounds 10 will sound different six years later. The actor himself was about 12 (fuck dealing with days of the year, he was born in 88 and the game released in 02) when KH1 released. So he'd have been about 18 for ReCoM, lol.
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Accolon
10/09/2025
06:08 PM
#45
I'm just watching the videos for CoM and 358 Days.

Just want to get back to the good stuff of 2 and BBS, and then the stuff I haven't played yet.
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_____Cait
10/09/2025
06:25 PM
#46
KH 1 is not crazy with endgame stuff. I did Kurt Ziza , Phantom, and other stuff as a teen (original ps2 version). Seph was pretty hard but not impossible.

Much less complex than the later games
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Xerun
10/09/2025
07:56 PM
#47
Accolon posted...
I'm just watching the videos for CoM and 358 Days.

Just want to get back to the good stuff of 2 and BBS, and then the stuff I haven't played yet.


With 2 I would recommend going for all the secret bosses but their a step up in difficulty from KH1

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Phantom_Nook
10/10/2025
01:04 AM
#48
Days is pretty good imo. I wish they had been able to include it in the collection.
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rexcrk
10/10/2025
05:40 AM
#49
Accolon posted...
prepping for that is such a slog.
This was never an issue for me because I always 100%d the game anyway, so after getting all the synth items, I was always maxed out.

I swear, the Kingdom Hearts games are the only games where I have fun grinding
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pegusus123456
10/10/2025
06:09 AM
#50
Xerun posted...
With 2 I would recommend going for all the secret bosses but their a step up in difficulty from KH1
This, the secret bosses in KH2 FM are incredible.

I know it's the rage to say this nowadays, but I'd compare them to Elden Ring bosses. A bit more predictable and "scripted," but they're so satisfying to beat.
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