Live in the St Paul area and want an IT job?

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https://www.governmentjobs.com/jobs/5104451-0/it-support-specialist

https://www.governmentjobs.com/jobs/5113344-0/it-support-specialist-saint-paul

I have to say, that's a lot for a general IT job. In my state you're lucky to be breaking over 20 dollars as an IT Specialist. St Paul must have a somewhat high cost of living.
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That doesn't seem very high for IT to me.

I do live near St Paul
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How does it compare to Minneapolis?
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VeggetaX posted...
I have to say, that's a lot for a general IT job. In my state you're lucky to be breaking over 20 dollars as an IT Specialist. St Paul must have a somewhat high cost of living.
Damn, $20 an hour for a position that requires a degree? That sounds rough
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In the IT field, I've found that you really have go into a specialization to make more money. The jobs where you're just doing general support don't pay as much.

If you're just starting out, use that job to help figure out which area of IT you like best. Systems administration, cyber security, networking, etc. Then go after certs in the area of interest you like best, then use those certs to get better jobs.
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NoxObscuras posted...
Damn, $20 an hour for a position that requires a degree? That sounds rough
Most places don't require it
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divot1338 posted...
How does it compare to Minneapolis?
Prolly the same
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teep_ posted...
You'd make more as an IT guy than I do as a scientist

Maybe I'm in the wrong job
I saw a local gardener job at the city for like 6500 a month. I appreciate the city paying people more but that was surprising.
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Our IT guys get paid decent at my university in Iowa. We have very cheap cost of living here and generally lower pay than most places . I am friends with a guy who moved over from the university to the city utility about 3 years ago but anyway he was an IT guy and he was just over $80k a year. Not every IT guy makes that but even the lowest level guys who are practically kids get paid decent.

And we have lower salaries because of our cheap cost of living and also our great benefits like free/cheap insurance and our employer contributes 200% to our retirement what we put in up to a certain amount. Our retirement does well so its a lower $ per hour but there are outside factors when considering benefits.

Where do you live that IT wouldnt be breaking $20 an hour? Fuck our custodial and cook staff start at almost that wage.
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CableZL posted...
In the IT field, I've found that you really have go into a specialization to make more money. The jobs where you're just doing general support don't pay as much.

If you're just starting out, use that job to help figure out which area of IT you like best. Systems administration, cyber security, networking, etc. Then go after certs in the area of interest you like best, then use those certs to get better jobs.
This. For a IT generalist position, $73k-$102K is solid especially on the higher end of that range.
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CableZL posted...
In the IT field, I've found that you really have go into a specialization to make more money. The jobs where you're just doing general support don't pay as much.


I think I have a warped idea of IT salaries. People that report to my husband make about twice the high end of that job listing. They are all pretty specialized though.
VeggetaX posted...
Most places don't require it
Oh okay. I thought you were comparing it to the position you posted, which does require one, or at least enough IT experience to substitute.

I'm working on going into IT myself though. I work for the California government and the IT position I'm looking to start in makes $59,220 - $104,880. It requires 2 years of college credits with some of them being IT specific.
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Cuticrusader09 posted...
I think I have a warped idea of IT salaries. People that report to my husband make about twice the high end of that job listing. They are all pretty specialized though.
It's easy to have a warped view. The IT industry is made up of so many different career paths, many that don't overlap in skills whatsoever. You have Networking, Database, Cybersecurity, Infrastructure, etc. Each of these paths have their own expectations of pay. On top of that, you have the variation of pay based on location and company because job titles aren't standardized in our industry so they are nearly meaningless.
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Cuticrusader09 posted...
I think I have a warped idea of IT salaries. People that report to my husband make about twice the high end of that job listing. They are all pretty specialized though.

These are not developer, architect, or technical management positions. They are help desk positions.
BlazinBlue88 posted...
It's easy to have a warped view. The IT industry is made up of so many different career paths, many that don't overlap in skills whatsoever. You have Networking, Database, Cybersecurity, Infrastructure, etc. Each of these paths have their own expectations of pay. On top of that, you have the variation of pay based on location and company because job titles aren't standardized in our industry so they are nearly meaningless.

And even with that, each company is going to treat job title X differently. At my last job, I was a network engineer, but I was doing all kinds of shit that didn't really involve networking directly beyond the fact that the device may have network settings.
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Cable is right. You want to make more money in IT, specialization is key. If not that, versatility with different systems and great with creating automation is another.
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CableZL posted...
And even with that, each company is going to treat job title X differently. At my last job, I was a network engineer, but I was doing all kinds of shit that didn't really involve networking directly beyond the fact that the device may have network settings.
Ah that sounds like they're abusing the "and other duties as assigned" part of the job description the way my job does lol
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NoxObscuras posted...
Ah that sounds like they're abusing the "and other duties as assigned" part of the job description the way my job does lol
It's not even that. It goes back to my statement of job titles not being standardized across the industry. A Sysadmin at one company can have a completely different set of responsibilities as a Sysadmin at another.

My first job was titled Technical Support Specialist. In many places, that is essentially a helpdesk person that also does some more in depth desktop support. Me though? I was the catch all person for that location so I was reviewing vendor contracts for projects, managing all the networking, phone systems, company cell phones, and configuring both physical and virtual servers. Oh yeah and doing the standard helpdesk stuff. That wasn't abuse...that was the responsibilities listed in the job posting.
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NoxObscuras posted...
Ah that sounds like they're abusing the "and other duties as assigned" part of the job description the way my job does lol

They definitely were.
  • Time clock troubleshooting
  • Music streaming device setup/config
  • Corporate office loading dock call button management


There was a time the DirecTV service at one of the store locations stopped working. It doesn't use the network at all, but they wanted me to figure it out. Turns out they hadn't paid the bill in like 5 months. I tried giving the phone to the store manager so she could handle that part, but she just handed me her company credit card for me to read to the DirecTV customer service rep.
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