Arab Americans Reassess Their Support for Trump Due to Growing Islamophobia

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/08/arab-americans-michigan-dearborn-trump
It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump.

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Arab and Hispanic Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024.
Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts.
They would still vote for him
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024.
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LightSnake posted...
It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump.

No more pro bono legal services. No more defenses. No more help. No more advocacy. No more protests They made the bed.
If you ask me, I sincerely believe it's better to provide aid towards those who are willing to help back instead of taking things for granted. Both Trump supporters and protest voters have made it very clear that they will spurn and abuse others for their own selfish ends.
For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate.

Everyone knew this would happen.
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And I should care why?

He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that.
Pitbuller_26 posted...
And I should care why?

He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that.
What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?
creativerealms posted...
For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate.

Everyone knew this would happen.

This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor.
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cousinvini posted...
They would still vote for him
Because the other side had a woman. Something about their cultures tell me they have an issue with this. But that's old now
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Humble_Novice posted...
What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?

reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done

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s0nicfan posted...
This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor.

Great job with that one, liberals. Bang up win for diversity
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A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked.

They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for.
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked.

They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for.

Its just selfish and self centered thinking coupled with fear and hate.

How they didnt understand they would not be welcome is flabbergasting to me if you know even a modicum of who and what the Cheeto has done in the past.

I love history but Its abundantly clear that most of America doesnt. So we are doomed to repeat it.
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Why couldn't they have realized this before the election?
It took them this long to start questioning their support if him? JFC
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AceMos posted...
reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done
My thoughts exactly. And I dont blame black women one bit.
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Imagine voting for the guy who banned flights from Arab countries JUST BECAUSE he talked to Khabib at the UFC event. But then again, I've become increasingly aware at the low amount of literacy people have politically and how absolutely mindless they are when it comes to Id Pol and how people "perceive" candidates through propaganda. These people are fucking hopeless.
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cousinvini posted...
They would still vote for him

^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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Zikten posted...
Why couldn't they have realized this before the election?

Because many, many people think they are the "good ones" and will be left alone, or that bad things won't happen to them. How very wrong they are.
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Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with?
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Southernfatman posted...
Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with?


we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies
Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen
I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something?

LightSnake posted...
we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies
Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on.
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Charged151 posted...
I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something?

Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on.

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Humble_Novice posted...
What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?
Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall?
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Call me a cynic, but it's hard to have any sympathy for these people regretting their decisions. I didn't vote for the guy but I'm feeling the ramifications of his actions.

Might as well strap in and own it, we still have another 3 years and 3 months of this. At minimum.
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Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?
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JadeBaby posted...
Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?
I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior.
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JadeBaby posted...
Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?
They memory holed Trump's entire first term and how he began his campaign.
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LightSnake posted...
we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies

Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now.

JadeBaby posted...
Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?

The 00s era Islamophobia is even coming back with some of the crap Zohran Mamdani gets.
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Southernfatman posted...
Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now.

Maybe the tent shouldnt be big enough for religious fundamentalists who want a theocracy tbh
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior.

people forgot his debate with kamala like a week later
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall?
Us and Asians were left high and dry.

The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt
I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board.

They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now.
Aight here we go:

First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source):

  • 50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris.
  • 31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump
  • 12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote.
  • Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020.
So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway.

Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other.

What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities.

To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now.

Sources:

https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-poll
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/
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I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH.

After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities.

Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it.

And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow?
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CableZL posted...
I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH.

After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities.

Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it.

And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow?
Yep, if nothing else they hold onto their hatred and racism. It's why the white nationalists have taken hold so strongly on the right. It sucks that we've reached this point at all
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Sandalorn posted...
I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board.

They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now.

The point isn't that the Arab American demographic is entirely to blame, the point is that of almost any demographic, this one shouldn't have believed or voted for Trump, like at all.
That's the problem, they should have known better.
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hitokoriX posted...
Aight here we go:

First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source):

* 50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris.
* 31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump
* 12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote.
* Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020.
So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway.

Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other.

What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities.

To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now.

Sources:

https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-poll
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/
Great post, I appreciate the inclusion of legitimate metrics and data to support the claims made. Sadly, this is another classic Arab Americans in Dearborn Michigan topic that is posted on a near weekly cadence here, and the target response is meant to be either explicit disavowal of Arab Americans as a dependable voting bloc or introducing baseless claims that protest voters had as significant an impact on the presidential election as Trump voters.

For what its worth though, these topics would be much more worthwhile and not reek of low level influence operations if we had posts like yours.

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Humble_Novice posted...
What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?
Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that.

Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better.
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cousinvini posted...
They would still vote for him
That's what pisses me the hell off.

All of these voting blocs and their fake outrage over Trump doing what he said he would do. When Trump runs again in 2028 these stupid mother****ers will vote for him again.
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hitokoriX posted...
This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again

Even white natural born citizens are worried about getting assaulted and detained by ICE now because you guys helped poison the well. Great job getting anyone to respond to your performative rage especially when you guys said nothing about Sudan, Syria or Yemen because you knew you couldnt exploit them to weaken Democrats.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that.

Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better.
I saw this being talking about on YouTube a couple of months ago. Black political YouTubers were mocking the fools who voted for Trump, even now theyre still tearing into Black MAGA, Latinos, and Arab communities. The only groups that arent really being mocked are Asian, and Native Americans.
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