A supermajority of gen 1 pokemon lines have gotten new forms/evos

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Fearow
Arbok
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Venemoth
Parasect
Golduck
Dewgong
Hypno
Dodrio
Seaking
Ditto
Omastar
Kabutops
Mew

These are the only gen 1 lines to not get at least one out of a new member of their evolutionary line, Regional Form, Divergent Evolution, Mega, Paradox or Gigantimax in future games.
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The Oddish line got Bellossom in Gen 2.
Murphiroth posted...
The Oddish line got Bellossom in Gen 2.

Oops thanks for catching me on that. Fixed
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Golduck doesn't need it he's already perfect
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HighSeraph posted...
Golduck doesn't need it he's already perfect
It greatly amuses me that Golduck is one of the only counters to goddamn Mega Rayquaza .
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I've seen some fun Parasect fanart where the mushrooms infest other Pokemon.

I think Paras could get a split evolution where the mushroom doesn't take over.
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pegusus123456 posted...
I've seen some fun Parasect fanart where the mushrooms infest other Pokemon.

I think Paras could get a split evolution where the mushroom doesn't take over.
I honestly feel like Dwebble is basically mushroomless Parasect lol
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Arbok should evolve into a Poison/Dragon-type named Nogard
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pegusus123456 posted...
I've seen some fun Parasect fanart where the mushrooms infest other Pokemon.

I think Paras could get a split evolution where the mushroom doesn't take over.

Paras but the good ending.

Another idea.

Parasect merges with a second pokemon as the fungus overgrew massively and needed more flesh. But the process killed both pokemon. They came back to their bodies as vengeful spirits but the fungus manages to dominate even their souls.

....jesus Fungus that can infest even incorporeal things is actually a terrifying thought.
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Ditto getting Impostor as a signature ability in gen 5 should count as a new form because it actually made Ditto playable, and Omastar becoming Lord Helix in Twitch Plays Pokemon should also count as a new form for pulling it out of total obscurity.

The others, I agree with.
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What is the comparison between Gen 1, 2 and 3, does Gen 1 have 15 mons that have not seen anything done to them while 2 and 3 are like 30 or 40? Making every single fully evolved mon viable or giving them variations/new evos, megas, etc just seems ridiculous to balance for, I mean there are over 1000 pokemon that comes out to what, like 400 fully evolved?

Honestly surprised we have not seen some sort of Mega/variant form for Nidoking/queen but that is about it. Maybe Mew, but I am fairly certain we have not seen any of the mythicals get new forms/megas have we?
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but I am fairly certain we have not seen any of the mythicals get new forms/megas have we?
Shaymin absolutely has gotten a new form.
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ellis123 posted...
Shaymin absolutely has gotten a new form.

That new form debuted in the same gen that Shaymin did, so I don't think we can call it a "new" form so much as a form it came with right out of the box. I thought about saying Mega Diancie, but it's the same situation as Sky Form Shaymin. Both Diancie and its mega debuted in the same gen.
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Ditto got this

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Technically Ditto gets new forms every game.
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Calwings posted...
That new form debuted in the same gen that Shaymin did, so I don't think we can call it a "new" form so much as a form it came with right out of the box. I thought about saying Mega Diancie, but it's the same situation as Sky Form Shaymin. Both Diancie and its mega debuted in the same gen.
Same Gen, sure, but not the same game so it wasn't really "out of the box" for anyone who played during that Gen.
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Captain_Qwark posted...
I don't remember any of those getting evolutions

That's the point. TC listed the only Pokemon from gen 1 who have NOT gotten a new evolution, form, etc.
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Nidoking and Nidoqueen should get an evolution that requires them both to be in your party, then they fuse together into Nidorebus.

Double the base stats, but it takes up two slots in your party.
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ellis123 posted...
Same Gen, sure, but not the same game so it wasn't really "out of the box" for anyone who played during that Gen.

I still wouldn't count it though, since those forms were clearly designed alongside their originals while that gen was being created. It's not the same as a new evolution or form being designed separately from the originals and added later on. While Gamefreak were designing Magmar for gen 1, I strongly doubt they were thinking what its evolution would look like in gen 4. While they were designing Ampharos for gen 2, I strongly doubt they were thinking about a mega evolution coming in gen 6. But while they were designing Shaymin for gen 4, they were clearly creating both of its forms at the same time and basing them off each other at the conceptual level. Likewise with Diancie and its mega evolution in gen 6. That's the difference IMO.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Technically Ditto gets new forms every game.


pegusus123456 posted...
Nidoking and Nidoqueen should get an evolution that requires them both to be in your party, then they fuse together into Nidorebus.

Double the base stats, but it takes up two slots in your party.

Having every stat be ~160 would make it probably the strongest pokemon ever.

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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Having every stat be ~160 would make it probably the strongest pokemon ever.
That's why you can only have three of them
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What did Cloyster get?
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Calwings posted...
I still wouldn't count it though, since those forms were clearly designed alongside their originals while that gen was being created. It's not the same as a new evolution or form being designed separately from the originals and added later on. While Gamefreak were designing Magmar for gen 1, I strongly doubt they were thinking what its evolution would look like in gen 4. While they were designing Ampharos for gen 2, I strongly doubt they were thinking about a mega evolution coming in gen 6. But while they were designing Shaymin for gen 4, they were clearly creating both of its forms at the same time and basing them off each other at the conceptual level. Likewise with Diancie and its mega evolution in gen 6. That's the difference IMO.
We have already established that you wouldn't count it, which is irrelevant to me saying the opposite. Whether you add on other unsubstantiated rationale is irrelevant.
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Scintillant posted...
What did Cloyster get?
nothing, OP forgot it

(unless you count it getting one of the most ridiculous buffs ever recorded in Pokemon - gaining Shell Smash in Gen 5 - which drastically changed how people tend to use it. That may not be a new form but I wouldn't call it being ignored!)
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Scintillant posted...
What did Cloyster get?
Hitachi magic wand
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Scintillant posted...
What did Cloyster get?
Shellder got new forms in Slowking and Galarian Slowpoke's evos.

Really though, Shellder should get a freestanding form that actually resembles Slowbro's shell.
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pegusus123456 posted...
I've seen some fun Parasect fanart where the mushrooms infest other Pokemon.
The output you get in the Pokemon Infinite Fusion fangame whenever you get Parasect with something else tends to be absolutely wild a majority of the time.
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Arbok evolves into Seviper

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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Fearow
Arbok I thought this was Corbeau's ace before playing Z-A.
Nidoking Giovanni's ace...there's a hypothetical remake of the originals where this makes a debut.
Nidoqueen
Venemoth For whatever it's worth, it did get a nice feature in the final dungeon of Scarlet and Violet.
Parasect I'm a fan, but there is neither a design nor competitive reason to give an alternate form; there's not much improvement to be had here.
Golduck
Dewgong There's no saving this design or Hypno's.
Hypno
Dodrio
Seaking desperately needs it
Ditto like Mew, doesn't need it conceptually
Omastar There's a lot of potential with fossils. No doubt they have power-ups and forms lost to time. If a special form was time-limited in battle only like Terastal, Mega, or Dynamax, it wouldn't appear in the fossil record.
Kabutops
Mew
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