Every generation whines about the youths.
I've had millennial classmates that were barely able to read as a senior in highschool.when i went to college english composition was a requirement for every freshman, i remember proof reading other students work in that class and holy hell did the majority of people fresh out of high school not know how to read and write at a high school level.
Being out of control? Probably exaggerated.
Not being able to read? I believe that one.
everyone here went to well adjusted high schools, i went to one set up like a fucking prison filled with angry inmates. bomb threats each year, search dogs each year, massive fights each year, gun scares each year, students doing hard drugs in the bathrooms.
No.Then as a teacher you can see the writing on the wall. You did what you could, but your students parents were just too dumb and selfish.
I'm a teacher.
They're cooked.
We're cooked.
If Gen Z and Alpha students are dumber than previous generations, then it's the previous generations fault for sucking.
The children that Ive taught in the last few years definitely have worse social skills, attention span, problem solving capabilities and struggle to think independently compared to those I taught earlier in my career.
It's definitely a result of having access to technology. It is difficult to foster problem solving skills when students don't have to actually struggle to learn information. A lot of exercises that I had to do in elementary school, such as looking up 10 vocabulary words in the dictionary and copying down their meanings, were actually incredibly valuable. Having to peruse a dictionary in order to find where a word belongs teaches a level of pattern recognition, and having to actually copy something down from a book onto a piece of paper teaches attention to detail.
But nowadays, I don't know if students do this anymore - more often than not they probably have access to technology that tells them what a word means, sounds it out for them, uses it in a sentence for them, and so their learning is all about instant gratification due to technology.
It makes life very difficult for them when they get into high school. So many students struggle with math because unless they encounter a problem that they know how to solve from start to finish, they don't even dare to *start* it because they're not used to struggling through failure. A lot of parents have a hard time with it too, because they're not used to their kids experiencing challenges, and I'm of course the bad guy because I'm trying to teach them how to grow.
Yeah I live in rural Midwest in a farm area and went to a small school in the middle of cornfields. Our entire high school was 100 kids and I remember in high school in the early 90's stories from some of the bigger city schools where they had trouble with people bringing weapons to school and had hired security and was frisking students.the rumor at my school was that the security guards were former prison guards, honestly they looked and acted like it. random searches and patdowns were absolutely a thing, metal detector wands too. they never did put in metal detectors at the doors though. lots of pull down barriers between sections of the school though, i guess in a shooting event they'd just seal off the shooter and write off the students in that section.
Our biggest issue was the janitor complained about people spilling soda on the floors and bringing food into classrooms so it became this big thing where they were cracking down on that and we joked that at the tough schools they frisked for gun and knives and in our school they frisked for pop and donuts.
It's definitely a result of having access to technology. It is difficult to foster problem solving skills when students don't have to actually struggle to learn information. A lot of exercises that I had to do in elementary school, such as looking up 10 vocabulary words in the dictionary and copying down their meanings, were actually incredibly valuable. Having to peruse a dictionary in order to find where a word belongs teaches a level of pattern recognition, and having to actually copy something down from a book onto a piece of paper teaches attention to detail.
But nowadays, I don't know if students do this anymore - more often than not they probably have access to technology that tells them what a word means, sounds it out for them, uses it in a sentence for them, and so their learning is all about instant gratification due to technology.
It makes life very difficult for them when they get into high school. So many students struggle with math because unless they encounter a problem that they know how to solve from start to finish, they don't even dare to *start* it because they're not used to struggling through failure. A lot of parents have a hard time with it too, because they're not used to their kids experiencing challenges, and I'm of course the bad guy because I'm trying to teach them how to grow.
Ugh, someone's blocking me in this topic, making it completely unreadable.Which post numbers are you not seeing?
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I think gfaqs is failing on you. This has happened to me, they're all different people and I doubt any have beef with you. It seems to reset within the hour, in my experience.
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Posts quoting someone that's blocked you will also be hidden from you.oh :v
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Wtf kind of schools did you guys go to? Most people I went to high school with could read just fine even the burnouts which is who I hung out with (2000 - 2004 USA public school btw).I was in public high school from 2004 up, and I hadn't heard of anyone illiterate at all. IIRC NJ had really strong schooling at the time. It was a bit of a shock to go online and learn just how awful other states were. When people said public school was bad, I thought they meant how fucking long it took to get to new lessons, not actual fucking illiteracy.
Wtf kind of schools did you guys go to? Most people I went to high school with could read just fine even the burnouts which is who I hung out with (2000 - 2004 USA public school btw) .There's your problem. Zoomers are just entering high school, and their brains have been rotted by neglect. Same with Alpha. Early 2000s was the last era of a decent education.
Yeah I hear this. Teaching a kid to do things is the struggle of teachers now. Basic things even. Not just school things like reading and math, but stuff like how to initiate a conversation, how to find context in a story and use it to answer questions, how to click a button on a PC with a mouse. Its weird what people have taken for granted . Reading is just going to get worse because they just watch kids saying things on youtube now.
The failure thing too. Its so important that children experience failure and learn not just to cope with it but also to use it as a positive experience because its an opportunity for learning and growth, but so many parents seem to want to protect their children from it.
The thing Im noticing more these days that Ive pointed out to a few colleagues and they all seem to agree is that children now only have one voice, one tone or mode of communication. Even Grade 5 children seem to be talking to their parents, their siblings, their teachers, head teachers, all in the same way, regardless of circumstance. They struggle to realise that saying bruh to a head teacher is not appropriate, for instance. I feel like Covid was a big part of this because so many children just werent getting that variety of social interactions at an important developmental stage.