I fail to see how a human choosing to be evil disproves the existence of a benevolent god.
Adam and Eve brought evil into this world by making a selfish choice because God gave us free will. God allows us to suffer the consequences, but that was not his intention so he provided a way to deal with sin. If you don't somehow know how, it's through faith in Jesus Christ.
This life is short and temporary. Look beyond it for answers. Or just continue being human. It's up to you.
Adam and Eve brought evil into this world by making a selfish choice because God gave us free will. God allows us to suffer the consequences, but that was not his intention so he provided a way to deal with sin. If you don't somehow know how, it's through faith in Jesus Christ."two people a million billion years ago fucked up so im punishing your entire species, but good news, i sacrificed myself to myself so now you're safe as long as you tell me how awesome i am every single day"
"two people a million billion years ago fucked up so im punishing your entire species, but good news, i threw my son under the bus so now you're safe as long as you tell me how awesome i am every day"
Adam and Eve brought evil into this world by making a selfish choice because God gave us free will. God allows us to suffer the consequences, but that was not his intention so he provided a way to deal with sin. If you don't somehow know how, it's through faith in Jesus Christ.This "answer" from Christians really doesnt ring well with those who lean atheist.
This life is short and temporary. Look beyond it for answers. Or just continue being human. It's up to you.
Is there any statistical evidence that people who worship God live happier/better lives than those who don't? I mean even most of the the Old Testament is about him fucking over his so-called chosen people for centuries while the rest of the world is left alone to build thriving empires.The entire book of Job and is just God and Satan getting drunk one day and making a bet on if Satan can get Job to turn on God. So God lets him torture the poor guy for shits and giggles and kills his whole family, but its ok because he got a new one in the end I guess
but that was not his intentionA very succinct way to say that god absolutely cannot be omniscient and benevolent at the same time.
I think TC is just bringing up The Problem of Evil.They are, yes.
I think TC is just bringing up The Problem of Evil.
It goes something like this:
1. If god is all-powerful, he could prevent evil.
2. If god is all-knowing, he knows about evil.
3. If god is perfectly good, he would prevent evil, yet evil exists.
Therefore, either god doesn't exist or our understanding of god's nature is wrong.
#3 can throw up some issues. Would a 'perfectly good' being force others to be perfectly good, even against their will?
#3 can throw up some issues. Would a 'perfectly good' being force others to be perfectly good, even against their will?Yes.
#3 can throw up some issues. Would a 'perfectly good' being force others to be perfectly good, even against their will?It God made everything and if he's all powerful then he could have made everything only capable of doing good
Adam and Eve brought evil into this world by making a selfish choice because God gave us free will. God allows us to suffer the consequences, but that was not his intention so he provided a way to deal with sin. If you don't somehow know how, it's through faith in Jesus Christ.
This life is short and temporary. Look beyond it for answers. Or just continue being human. It's up to you.
The entire book of Job and is just God and Satan getting drunk one day and making a bet on if Satan can get Job to turn on God. So God lets him torture the poor guy for shits and giggles and kills his whole family, but its ok because he got a new one in the end I guessThere was no Satan in the OT. He was the Antagonist.
Put the blame where it belongs.The guy who fucked up the design and had to temporarily inconvenience his son/self to deliver the patch?
There was no Satan in the OT. He was the Antagonist.Ah gotcha. Its been a while. I just remember the gist of it being God being like lol watch Ill fuck up this guys whole life and hell still love me.
It God made everything and if he's all powerful then he could have made everything only capable of doing goodIs it 'good' if you have no choice but to follow the rules? Would good and evil exist?
Is God all knowing? If so, that was his intention, because he knew it would happen.Last response, and then I have to get to work.
Adam and Eve brought evil into this world by making a selfish choice because God gave us free will. God allows us to suffer the consequences, but that was not his intention so he provided a way to deal with sin. If you don't somehow know how, it's through faith in Jesus Christ.God created everything, right? Everything would include evil. Unless you want to tell me that the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-powerful god somehow didn't see evil sneak past him?
This life is short and temporary. Look beyond it for answers. Or just continue being human. It's up to you.
Last response, and then I have to get to work.
Free will. Adam and Eve had a choice. God can see all, every outcome and one was obedience and the other disobedience. Adam and Eve choose to disobey. That's on them, not God. God has a plan for every outcome, even when we fuck up.
Ah gotcha. Its been a while. I just remember the gist of it being God being like lol watch Ill fuck up this guys whole life and hell still love me.
Like a shitty girlfriend
Wow, I'll try to explain this better.I mean no offense, this explained nothing. Your explanation means something to Theist and those who lean Theist. But to those lean more atheist, this explanation has many holes.
First, this is all based on TC saying God does exist and that he is a "dick". If we are assuming God exists, and that the majority on this site are referring to a Christian God, I am telling you why you are wrong.
God gave us free will so that we are not "puppets" but are free to choose whether we obey or love him. He wants us to choose to love him, not force us. If you see this as a "flaw", then you just don't understand free will. It is complex.
Second, he has given us a way out from the consequences of sin because he does love us.
And finally, all of this will be set right when Jesus returns and destroys evil once and for all.
You don't have to believe any of this. I'm just explaining how you are wrong if you are saying that the Christian God is a "dick". Humans are the ones that are evil, not God. If you believe in God.
Humans being evil -- that's a fact no matter what God you do or don't believe in. Put the blame where it belongs.
There was no Satan in the OT. He was the Antagonist.There was. Specifically it was the job title ( ) of an angel who was put there to act as the antagonist towards what god said.
Last response, and then I have to get to work.
Free will. Adam and Eve had a choice. God can see all, every outcome and one was obedience and the other disobedience. Adam and Eve choose to disobey. That's on them, not God. God has a plan for every outcome, even when we fuck up.
There was no Satan in the OT. He was the Antagonist.
OT God is more like a traditional polytheistic god because he was actually a fusion of a couple different Canaanite gods (El and Yahweh). He took on the whole all powerful and all knowing aspect later when it evolved into being monotheistic and basically got retconned in the NT to the loving and forgiving God (he was originally jealous and vengeful).Interesting. I remember watching a vid a while back talking about how people who go to seminary typically become atheists because learning the actual history of the religion puts into perspective how contradictory and nonsensical it is. The fact the lore can just radically change over time is proof its all bs, to me at least
Wow, I'll try to explain this better.
First, this is all based on TC saying God does exist and that he is a "dick". If we are assuming God exists, and that the majority on this site are referring to a Christian God, I am telling you why you are wrong.
God gave us free will so that we are not "puppets" but are free to choose whether we obey or love him. He wants us to choose to love him, not force us. If you see this as a "flaw", then you just don't understand free will. It is complex.
Second, he has given us a way out from the consequences of sin because he does love us.
And finally, all of this will be set right when Jesus returns and destroys evil once and for all.
You don't have to believe any of this. I'm just explaining how you are wrong if you are saying that the Christian God is a "dick". Humans are the ones that are evil, not God. If you believe in God.
Humans being evil -- that's a fact no matter what God you do or don't believe in. Put the blame where it belongs.
Interesting. I remember watching a vid a while back talking about how people who go to seminary typically become atheists because learning the actual history of the religion puts into perspective how contradictory and nonsensical it is. The fact the lore can just radically change over time is proof its all bs, to me at least
Doesn't Trump actually tick a lot of boxes for the Antichrist?The Antichrist is only supposed to have one term in office (a reign of 3.5 years).
The Antichrist is only supposed to have one term in office (a reign of 3.5 years).I thought it was 7 years split into two 3.5 year periods
Maybe that means Trump is like . . . double Antichrist!