Who is the villain of Final Fantasy X? *Spoilers*

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LiquidOshawott
08/08/2022
09:12 PM
#1
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Leonhart4
08/08/2022
09:17 PM
#2
Seymour is the primary antagonist. Jecht is sort of a tragic hero if anything. It's hard for me to consider Sin or Yu Yevon the main villains when they have no real personality to speak of.
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Mobilezoid
08/08/2022
09:19 PM
#3
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PrivateBiscuit1
08/08/2022
09:22 PM
#4
The lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains.
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KamikazePotato
08/08/2022
09:24 PM
#5
I think 'the Cycle' is the real answer here. Everything that happens in the game is a result of the cycle Yu Yevon set up, but Yu Yevon is basically dead already so I'll go with the more systemic angle.
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BlackDra90n
08/08/2022
09:53 PM
#6
Sin and the cycle are just a force of nature though, they aren't really actively bad guys. Seymour is probably the answer here since he's the most antagonistic.
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Emeraldegg
08/08/2022
10:00 PM
#7
Seymour also tried to merge with sin and actively destroy everything, that could very easily have been the final boss instead of braska's final aeon and I think is probably more important for the setting's health, seymour controlling sin is probably worse than just letting sin's cycle continue as is. So I'm going to say seymour.

It's hard for me to say yu yevon is the villain despite him creating the cycle, because the reason he did that was to defeat a nation he was at war with.
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08/08/2022
10:06 PM
#8
No lightning?
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NFUN
08/08/2022
10:06 PM
#9
It's hard for me to really say any of the beings are. I think the Cycle is the only answer that makes sense. Sure, there are lots of antagonists, but they're all so tragic and trapped and have no real agency. They're just kind of caught up in the SPIRAL OF DEATH GET IT IT'S SPIRA. Anyway Seymour is the closest as he is actively trying to change fate but he also, like, doesn't matter, and he's more of a personified representation of the pain of the cycle

just kidding it's the fucking birds
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pjbasis
08/08/2022
10:11 PM
#10
Yu Yevon is the most literal answer in the ultimate sense.
Emeraldegg posted...
Seymour also tried to merge with sin and actively destroy everything, that could very easily have been the final boss instead of braska's final aeon and I think is probably more important for the setting's health, seymour controlling sin is probably worse than just letting sin's cycle continue as is. So I'm going to say seymour.

that's why he should have been the final boss imoooo
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LeonhartFour
08/08/2022
10:19 PM
#11
Seymour is the primary antagonist in the sense that he drives the actions of the heroes and the plot somehow even more than the Pilgrimage does at times but he's also such a loser that he deserved to get owned before the final boss

getting the emotional payoff with Jecht at the end was better than some lame final showdown with Seymour (even if it does have great boss music)
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scarletspeed7
08/08/2022
10:36 PM
#12
Yuna for wasting my time with her bullshit
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foolm0r0n
08/08/2022
11:04 PM
#13
The cycle & Yu Yevon are what need to be defeated, but they aren't concious. Yunalesca is the only active conscious supporter of the cycle (and her cronies like Mika), so it's clear she's the ultimate villain. Not only of Tidus/Yuna's story, but Auron's, and every summoner. Defeating her was the climax of the party's mission (aka "our story") and killing Sin was the end. Then only Tidus' story to beat Jecht remained.

Seymour actually wants to the end the cycle just as much as Tidus/Yuna, but using destruction instead. He was absolutely a loser who did not deserve to be the final boss. Glad they didn't do that.
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pjbasis
08/08/2022
11:52 PM
#14
WELL I mean ideally he would have been a character with actual presence befitting that, I get why the Seymour we have got shafted
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MZero
08/08/2022
11:54 PM
#15
Definitely the Luca Goers
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Menji
08/08/2022
11:56 PM
#16
According to the Villains Contest it's Sin, so what else needs to be said?
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paperwarior
08/08/2022
11:57 PM
#17
None of the others are remotely as evil as the birds.
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MartinFF7
08/09/2022
01:12 AM
#18
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HanOfTheNekos
08/09/2022
01:15 AM
#19
All except for the laughter. Laughter is the hero.
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colliding
08/09/2022
04:16 PM
#20
it's absolutely not seymour

real answer is yu yevon/church/cycle as others have pointed out
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pyresword
08/09/2022
04:33 PM
#21
Can't wait to play the version of FFX where Sin is a mecha used by the Luca Goers and all the events of the game are a gigantic conspiracy to ensure their continued unrivaled blitzball dominance.
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Leonhart4
08/09/2022
04:36 PM
#22
pyresword posted...
Can't wait to play the version of FFX where Sin is a mecha used by the Luca Goers and all the events of the game are a gigantic conspiracy to ensure their continued unrivaled blitzball dominance.

The grand championship is played inside Sin, and Tidus invents the Tidus Shot Mark IV in front of Jecht just to spite him
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colliding
08/09/2022
04:52 PM
#23
X-3 was one of my most wanted games for years. still think it should happen. get the gang back together, explore spira in glorious 3D. make yuna a summoner again. have paine take auron's place. it's free money square
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08/09/2022
04:53 PM
#24
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most_games_r_ok
08/09/2022
05:37 PM
#25
The Cycle although Seymour tries so hard to be the big bad
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Leonhart4
08/09/2022
05:39 PM
#26
colliding posted...
X-3 was one of my most wanted games for years. still think it should happen. get the gang back together, explore spira in glorious 3D. make yuna a summoner again. have paine take auron's place. it's free money square

The X-3 we would get based off of the radio drama is something that should never see the light of day
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most_games_r_ok
08/09/2022
05:55 PM
#27
Leonhart4 posted...
The X-3 we would get based off of the radio drama is something that should never see the light of day
The radio drama that never happened right
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Leonhart4
08/09/2022
06:07 PM
#28
most_games_r_ok posted...
The radio drama that never happened right

Unfortunately Square wouldn't see it that way
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Lopen
08/09/2022
06:46 PM
#29
Seymour is the villain of the story but it is not a story primarily about overcoming a villain. And that's okay.

So I agree with the general sentiment in this topic but general sentiment isn't answering the question.
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MoogleKupo141
08/09/2022
06:49 PM
#30
the villain is Tidus

Spiras got a good thing going, a system that works, and he comes along and Fuchs it all up.
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Leonhart4
08/09/2022
06:51 PM
#31
In that sense the real villain is Auron because he's the one who puts everything into motion and makes it all happen
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HeroDelTiempo17
08/09/2022
07:01 PM
#32
If you are being literal with "the villain" or "the antagonist" in that they have to be characters, then it's Sin. But really this question misses the central conflict of FFX which is against power structures and The Cycle.

Sin physically embodies the cycle so that's the closest. No, it doesn't have much of a personality and is more of a force of nature, but that's not an argument against it being a character. You could apply this to like, Godzilla, you wouldn't say Godzilla isn't a character.

Seymour is doing a similar thing by personifying the Church, Jecht is the source of so many of Tidus's issues, but Sin and the Cycle are bigger than them and ends up literally assimilating these other things.
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08/09/2022
07:11 PM
#33
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Raka_Putra
08/09/2022
08:09 PM
#34
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