I'm also assuming 2 scum left because the game would've been over D3 if Sultan blew up Lea and scum shot somebody else N1. 3 scum is still possible, but it feels way too volatile for this setup as we know it.
Im kind of shocked he hasnt tried to kill me yet for almost lynching him on day 2 I think?
But the truth is that Red is not Town. He could just be another member of Scum - nothing prevents the host from making this sort of decision.
Ctes can you verify the Han scan?
Anyway, question for the others present: Remember all the times I said "wow Ulti's behavior sure is weird; it's Scummy that he ignored me D2; Ulti has flip flopped me from Town-Scum-Town and now it looks like Scum again"
The irony is that I hope you understand the same reasoning could be applied to you and your claim of Kooper.
Host discretion could make Kooper scum! He's a Koopa, after all. And thus Ulti's argument that you're scum neighborizer holds weight.
(Not that I agree with Ulti at all. I'm just poking fun at this argument that, while in a vacuum is totally legitimate, could also be used against you in this game)
Duly noted. And you know Ulti better than I would.
And yet I can't forget about that time he completely 180'd on Lea in an otherwise completely solved game at MyLo.
So to some degree, Ulti being like this does not surprise me too much lol
Oh, are you talking about that game that Lea MVP'd out a Town performance? I think that was the one where I got lynched D1 as Doctor?
Drop the mafia neighbor thing. I forgot about the scan.
You have to understand Im a late game choke artist in literally everything. Not just mafia :p
In retrospect, him saying to remove Lea from our super team was red flags, but she got him good for that anyway.I think the moment of truth here was towards the end of day, he directly asked you what you thought of her. You said you didn't see her as scum, and he pretty much dropped it after that.
Before. He didn't scan me yet.Is it theoretically possible ctes is lying then? He could have been coasting off of scans Ben made.
I think the moment of truth here was towards the end of day, he directly asked you what you thought of her. You said you didn't see her as scum, and he pretty much dropped it after that.
I think you convinced him that they had to kill her.
Is it theoretically possible ctes is lying then? He could have been coasting off of scans Ben made.
And then she killed him.Yeah I'm in awe of how she played it.
All a part of the Masterplan
I believe Ctes entirely. Besides, if Ben scanned Red, it wouldn't give flavor, right? Ctes would have to bank on Red being Jr. Troopa.No, didn't Ben's flip say full flavor scan? And if red is not indie as you suggested then there's no need for Ben to scan red
No, didn't Ben's flip say full flavor scan? And if red is not indie as you suggested then there's no need for Ben to scan redI checked.
Plum I don't know if you've just been ignoring my posts or what. I was pushing for Han at the beginning of the previous day. Han and Ctes linked themselves hard to push the votes off of Han at that time.Dumey pushing to link them both is one of the things that got me thinking, maybe they shouldn't be linked as we have been. If ctes is town then he has obvious reason to buy Han, but if ctes is scum then he could still be pulling a fast one while Han is town.
How could you buy one but not the other?
To entertain Dumey - if red is rber and you don't die tonight then Kirby will have explaining to do, yes. But i still don't see him as scum given the ben situations. Sorry, bro. But that's the power of the flip from ben.Can you walk this one through for me? I really don't understand.
Well i was pushing for it being ctes if only one of them are scum. If Han is scum then they're both scum imo.I guess if you want to entertain the idea of a scum neighborizer AND Han having a weird flavor for scum, then it COULD be possible, but that seems incredibly unlikely for scum Han to dupe a town Ctes there. Definitely linked together there.
I guess if you want to entertain the idea of a scum neighborizer AND Han having a weird flavor for scum, then it COULD be possible, but that seems incredibly unlikely for scum Han to dupe a town Ctes there. Definitely linked together there.You read backwards. Scum ctes duping town han.
Can you walk this one through for me? I really don't understand.I personally am not putting further stock into me correctly interpreting how a weird role works in this game. That is how.
Kirby claims to be 100% insistent on using their action to kill me. If scum Roleblocker dies, and Kirby and I are still alive tomorrow, how do you justify that? Would you buy that Kirby decided to "test" someone else with Hammer on the night they know they Roleblocker is dead, and it just didn't happen to go through again?
In my mind, Roleblocker being lynched and Kirby being unable to produce my dead corpse is a 100% confirmation of Kirby being scum. I legitimately don't see any other scenario being possible.
You read backwards. Scum ctes duping town han.I didn't read backwards, but from the part I quoted I understand how you got that impression. I was agreeing with you that if Han is scum, then they're both scum. I was just caveating that it was TECHNICALLY possible but incredibly unlikely.
I am done looking at Kirby. He has proven himself to me with actions during day phase, damn the night.This is the part that confuses me, because I believe the exact opposite. And so having direct evidence of a contradiction in Kirby's stated actions would just do more to discredit what they've banked their entire game plan on.
This is the part that confuses me, because I believe the exact opposite. And so having direct evidence of a contradiction in Kirby's stated actions would just do more to discredit what they've banked their entire game plan on.Day 1 - Kirby didn't vote for Ben, but he was on him consistently for being off. You rushed to Ben's defense.
Why are you so convinced by Kirby's day play? I looked back at the end of last topic but pretty much just see you after your MYLO/LYLO mathing say that if it's scum Kirby, then they deserve their win.
Day 1 - Kirby didn't vote for Ben, but he was on him consistently for being off. You rushed to Ben's defense.Where did I rush to Ben's defense. I had him in my "lurking under the radar list" and pretty sure I never read him as town or defended him during that day. I certainly didn't have a read on him because he didn't post much.
Day 2 - you both voted for Ben then unvoted him, but again, Kirby was on ben's case so much harder than you were.
Day 3 - Kirby buried Ben and was on him a lot. You were not on ben at all.
Read intent, and not just the votals. I had Ben on my proposed scum teams the ENTIRE day, and multiple times referred to him as a strong possibility of being scum.This is a much easier way for you to bus, yes.
Where did I rush to Ben's defense.Over a joke vote on page 1. You jumped the gun.
This doesn't discount the idea of Kirby just deciding to bus Ben though.My point is that he was very combative towards Ben for three days straight which culminated in Ben's lynch. I do not think that Kirby would have kept pushing this if he were on ben's team.
Are you going to say I'm not on Red at all today just because I'm not putting him at -2 right now before the day ends?Well now you're just misconstruing things. Red has far fewer connections to other players with his posts and interactions than Ben does.