UshiromiyaEva posted...
Regardless of whatever retcon they've attempted, I would say if the person straight up doesn't know the name Red it does not count.
Even if you want to try your hardest to not count Ash as a Red stand-in, certainly you'd have to agree that an assertion like "2B is more iconic than Red" is absolutely silly, right? I guess that's my main point of contention. I think Shake's argument was so silly to me that I probably got off base a bit.