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Also, with Maria/Charlie/Ben basically a lock to make up 50% of the final 6...fucking hell Siga was the worst tribe this season.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
Yeah, the last two votes are exactly why I didn't jump on the "THIS IS THE BEST NEW ERA SEASON" bandwagon.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
Also, this episode clearly established Charlie as the season's narrator. That doesn't necessarily mean he wins. He's just the protagonist. (But I do think he wins... )

Venus blew up her own game by being so sketchy with Charlie and we'll see if she realizes that in her exit press tomorrow. She probably won't. But I am 100% listening to it. She is someone who has always delivers the goods.

That said, I am pretty "eh" on watching next week's episode now that Venus is gone and the Siga trio have majority. This season was great for a long time though!
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Sad to lose Venus. Amazing, amazing casting choice. (As was Liz, it turns out - and definitely Q as well) I can't overstate how refreshing it is to see people actually hash out arguments at tribal instead of just saying "Well, Jeff, Survivor is hard! It's like driving a car!" over and over again for 15 minutes every episode. Props to the producers for finally making good Survivor again. And man, I like Maria, but wow, the second-hand embarrassment I felt during that reward-picking sequence.
Blaziken posted...
Yeah, the last two votes are exactly why I didn't jump on the "THIS IS THE BEST NEW ERA SEASON" bandwagon.
I was never on that bandwagon. In fact, I've been keeping it at fourth (my ranking being 45 > 42 > 41 > 46 > 44 > 43). At this point I don't see it moving up OR down before the end.
darkx
I love Amber & Vinny so much. They aren't gimmicky or loud and in-your-face like a lot of all-star-esque teams are. They don't even get into shouting matches or anything. They're just really snarky at each other and say and do low-key unintentionally funny things and it's really just a breath of fresh air into the current era of TAR.
darkx
I think 46 > 45 > 42 > 44 > 43 > 41 is how I'd have them, personally.

46 is the first season of the "New Era" that feels like Survivor should. And I think that's partly because they were willing to cast people who wouldn't necessarily like each other, and also because Jeff is needling and trolling people again when they deserve it, and also because I've actually been watching the merge challenges, and also because there are legit memorable and funny moments.

45 had a handful of good stuff, most of which was Emily-adjacent, but it lacked in the arguments... and had the Sean quit, which was awful. At least Hannah owned it and was colorful on her way out!

42 and 44 were both good, not great, and I'd think the one-hour runtime with all the advantage filler was detrimental. 42 is better because the cast clicked across tribes while 44's clicked more within their original tribes and not beyond that. There was some good early drama in 44, though.

43 was a slog until the home stretch, but BOY did it get really good there. The "Telenovela" episode may be the best episode of the entire "New Era" but that's really the only one I'd say from that season that was truly excellent.

41 had a lot of problems, namely the cringy manufactured "guys" nonsense that really did NOT need to be a thing, the fact that the winner was nearly invisible in quite a few episodes, the hourglass, and the very existence of Shit, who is one of the most vile players ever and her fans are even worse.

I'm honestly thinking 46 may barely be in my top 10. Nothing else in the "New Era" comes close. I hope Forty-Several uses 46's casting, Probst trolling, and editing as a model, because this really feels like the show I love again. 45 was only halfway there, but the 90 minutes sure did help.
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Okay, so the finale is going to be two legs in an hour and a half. Which means after a whole season of excruciatingly bloated episodes, the most important episode is going to be way too condensed.

Unless they're planning on cutting into the 11pm news.
darkx
Thank GOD Amber & Vinny survived that. Their elimination here would have absolutely sunk the finale.
darkx
Yvonne & Melissa were such a waste of space this season. I can't believe they lasted to final five before finally bowing out (having consistently outlasted good team after good team after good team).
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
BlueCrystalTear posted...
41 had a lot of problems, namely the cringy manufactured "guys" nonsense that really did NOT need to be a thing, the fact that the winner was nearly invisible in quite a few episodes, the hourglass, and the very existence of Shit, who is one of the most vile players ever and her fans are even worse.
I find this analysis to be incredibly problematic. I'm not a fan of how the "guys" thing was handled (to be honest, if they hadn't even said anything and just dropped it, I probably never would have noticed) but to say that one moment in the premiere sunk the season is an insane overreaction.

As a Shan fan, admittedly I do find some of her fans to be incredibly obnoxious, especially in edgic (I'm sure they're worse on CTS; I don't even look at that cesspool anymore). But how is she "vile?" She's like, not even close to being in the top 200 worst people that have ever been on the show. And straight-up nicknaming her "Shit" is actually a vile thing to say.
darkx
Underleveled posted...
I find this analysis to be incredibly problematic. I'm not a fan of how the "guys" thing was handled (to be honest, if they hadn't even said anything and just dropped it, I probably never would have noticed) but to say that one moment in the premiere sunk the season is an insane overreaction.

As a Shan fan, admittedly I do find some of her fans to be incredibly obnoxious, especially in edgic (I'm sure they're worse on CTS; I don't even look at that cesspool anymore). But how is she "vile?" She's like, not even close to being in the top 200 worst people that have ever been on the show. And straight-up nicknaming her "Shit" is actually a vile thing to say.
The Shit fans got me banned from RHAP and r/Survivor simply for not liking her and expressing that. The nickname is what I will always refer to her as going forward, as mild as it is.

Also she scammed people on Patreon with saying she'd "help them find God" but in reality she was just lining her chequebook. She is currently in my Bottom 1 Survivor contestants - yes, even worse than Feely Dan.

Fuck Shit.
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Andy, thats way overboard, man. Were talking an alumni base that includes a pedophile, At least one rapist, a wife beater, and an anti-trans politician. Even if Shan is a scammer, shes nowhere near the worst ever.
Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever
http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif
Espeon posted...
Andy, thats way overboard, man. Were talking an alumni base that includes a pedophile, At least one rapist, a wife beater, and an anti-trans politician. Even if Shan is a scammer, shes nowhere near the worst ever.
We all have that one person who we have a personal grudge against.
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I mean, yeah, we've all got a handful of contestants that most fans like and we don't, and I can absolutely see the reasons why Shan can be too much for someone, but your hatred of her feels extremely disproportionate.
darkx
Underleveled posted...
I mean, yeah, we've all got a handful of contestants that most fans like and we don't, and I can absolutely see the reasons why Shan can be too much for someone, but your hatred of her feels extremely disproportionate.
She wasn't even in my bottom 5 before certain excrement went after me for my entirely valid dislike of her. I am tired of being bullied for having a very valid opinion by people who don't have a valid reason to hate for it.

I got excommunicated for NO REASON by a [expletive] moderator from a community I'd been in for longer than he had. Wouldn't you be bitter in my shoes, and associate that with Shit herself, especially after it happened twice?
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I was busy last night so I didn't get a chance to watch the episode live. But I have to say, that was a great downfall for Venus. I'm glad to see her go here, because she's only bearable when she's getting dunked on.

Also, where did all this "Q is a massive threat" thing come from? Two episodes ago they were all saying how they didn't respect Q after he tried to quit and they'd never vote for him, and now after being tribe paraih for that time, he's suddenly this huge threat to win. What happened there?

And not a fan of how Kenzie was acting last night. Throwing a fit after the first time she wasn't in the on the vote isn't a good look.
""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47
BlueCrystalTear posted...
She wasn't even in my bottom 5 before certain excrement went after me for my entirely valid dislike of her. I am tired of being bullied for having a very valid opinion by people who don't have a valid reason to hate for it.

I got excommunicated for NO REASON by a [expletive] moderator from a community I'd been in for longer than he had. Wouldn't you be bitter in my shoes, and associate that with Shit herself, especially after it happened twice?

I'm going to ask this as politely as possible: were you hated/excommunicated for a very standard level of not liking Shan...or was your reaction to Shan something similar to what we're seeing now?
Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier.
Inviso
Inviso posted...
I'm going to ask this as politely as possible: were you hated/excommunicated for a very standard level of not liking Shan...or was your reaction to Shan something similar to what we're seeing now?
It was a very standard level. Like for RHAP, I was banned for "spreading misinformation" - when I was merely articulating things I'd heard. This was a very convenient excuse that made no sense to ban somebody for. For r/Survivor, it was simply me saying "Fuck Shan" - nothing more than that; it was after this that I started calling her "Shit" instead. That was just a week but I decided not to go back and I do not regret that decision. My mental health thanks me.

(and you did ask politely, so thank you for that)

Mewtwo59 posted...
Also, where did all this "Q is a massive threat" thing come from? Two episodes ago they were all saying how they didn't respect Q after he tried to quit and they'd never vote for him, and now after being tribe pariah for that time, he's suddenly this huge threat to win. What happened there?
This confused me as well. So many people said they'd never vote for him to win, and now... what?
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Are they saying it in confessional, or to each other?

Lots of people play up how someone is "a threat to win" as an excuse to paint them as a target.
I actually basically agree with the season ranking above though, except that I'd probably put 41 above 43 since the post-merge drama around the alliance falling apart was pretty juicy. (And Shan was a very compelling character. Sucks to learn the things she's said/done post-show.) Reddit mods do suck though.

42 really had something special going though so it's really impressive it was able to be pretty good even despite being in the pre-longer-episodes new era stretch. I probably put 46 and 45 above it by default but it's not a foregone conclusion.
3 consecutive people who couldn't see the writing on the wall in Survivor. Fucking hell so dumb.
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Mewtwo59 posted...
And not a fan of how Kenzie was acting last night. Throwing a fit after the first time she wasn't in the on the vote isn't a good look.
This honestly tracks with everything we've seen of Kenzie. Not that she's been outright nasty, but she's had this cliquey, mean girlish attitude and a bit of an air of entitlement. I'm not surprised she threw a temper tantrum for being left out of a vote, especially when that was the one person whose boot she very specifically wanted to be her move.
darkx
3 episodes of lets vote out q followed by nah lets protect q is getting as tedious as a pagonging

next episode better deliver on changing that story up
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Underleveled posted...
This honestly tracks with everything we've seen of Kenzie. Not that she's been outright nasty, but she's had this cliquey, mean girlish attitude and a bit of an air of entitlement. I'm not surprised she threw a temper tantrum for being left out of a vote, especially when that was the one person whose boot she very specifically wanted to be her move.
Yeah, Kenzie still feels like a losing finalist to me. Someone whose attitude rubs people the wrong way, and she leaves FTC like Cassidy... which is who I'd say is who she reminds me of, just more of a mean girl and less of a narcissist, but still close enough.
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I know hes obviously more famous for football, but he played Survivor, so its relevant. Jimmy Johnson has passed away.
Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever
http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif
Kenzie is preggers.

https://ew.com/survivor-46-star-kenzie-petty-announces-shes-expecting-first-baby-8647947

I'd say this rules her out for 50. I can't imagine her playing again that soon after giving birth.
darkx
Also I was looking through some old pics on my phone and found this and chuckled.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/838a11bc.jpg
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Now that would've been funny had Venus played the idol and Kenzie went last week solely because Ben wrote the wrong name.
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Underleveled posted...
I'd say this rules her out for 50. I can't imagine her playing again that soon after giving birth.
Yeah, baby's due in September. So that's like six months before she'd have to pass a physical, and filming would be when the kid's like 9 months old. Can't imagine her wanting to go back on Survivor on that kind of timeline, and she wouldn't want to leave her firstborn home so soon.

Mewtwo59 posted...
Now that would've been funny had Venus played the idol and Kenzie went last week solely because Ben wrote the wrong name.
Yeah, this is precisely why I thought he voted Kenzie. But instead it was because he's getting close to Reichenbach MedEvac turf. One big blindside of someone he's not expecting and he collapses, a psychosomatic reaction that worsens his existing symptoms.

Charlie winning this is bad for him, should he lose immunity. He's the biggest challenge threat there. Also LOL @ Liz wanting a WikiFeet article with that foot movement. Hilarious!
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As tough as that decision was...I feel like Charlie made the smartest move of the past few rounds. Just say "Liz and Kenzie didn't get to go on the last reward. I'm sorry, but that was who I was gonna choose before the letters." Harder to have hurt feelings after that.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
lol Maria

This is the most interesting she's been all season.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
Also Maria breaking down here strikes me as kinda hypocritical. She did the exact same kind of thing to Liz. And Liz has a letter from her daughter and Kenzie has one from her now-husband. Maria strikes me as rather entitled here.

Blaziken posted...
lol Maria

This is the most interesting she's been all season.
This too. She's been a soulless gamebot the whole time.

...did Taylor Swift not write Charlie a letter?
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Q is SUCH a good narrator. He's just so charismatic.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
BlueCrystalTear posted...
But instead it was because he's getting close to Reichenbach MedEvac turf. One big blindside of someone he's not expecting and he collapses, a psychosomatic reaction that worsens his existing symptoms.
Erik's evacuation was due to an allergic reaction to the medication he was given for an infection.
darkx
Quitavius finding the idol and telling Maria certainly doesn't help his winner chances. Maybe he's playing for her to win.

And just like I feared, this might be backfiring on Charlie.
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There's absolutely no way tonight's boot is anyone other than Charlie or Maria.
darkx
This edit is awesome. Cutting back and forth between each of them saying the other is totally loyal, but they need to blindside the other.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
Underleveled posted...
There's absolutely no way tonight's boot is anyone other than Charlie or Maria.
Unless one of them wins immunity, Maria gets 4 votes, Charlie gets 2, and the question will be whether or not Quitavius plays his idol on Maria.

Blaziken posted...
This edit is awesome. Cutting back and forth between each of them saying the other is totally loyal, but they need to blindside the other.
This kind of storytelling is phenomenal. And it makes me think neither of them wins immunity, for maximum thrill.
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Remember when we all thought Maria was the weak link on Siga, challenge-wise?
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Ugh
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
This kind of storytelling is phenomenal. And it makes me think neither of them wins immunity, for maximum thrill.
Well, I gotta dump my milk out now, whoops.

(and yes, "ugh" describes this well)
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This is worrying. Maria being safe means Q (with a cursed idol) is likely the target in her stead. And something tells me if Q plays the idol, Maria's gonna get cold feet and gun for one of the girls instead.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
Is this going to be four in a row?
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Is this going to be four in a row?
And five total
darkx
Underleveled posted...
And five total

Don't forget Randen went home with a Beware Advantage in his pocket.
Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting.
http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif
It wasn't active so I don't count it.
darkx
Blaziken posted...
This is worrying. Maria being safe means Q (with a cursed idol) is likely the target in her stead. And something tells me if Q plays the idol, Maria's gonna get cold feet and gun for one of the girls instead.
Alternatively, Quitavius could slip at Tribal and Charlie and Ben could realize he has an idol, put their two votes on Liz, and the revote is 2-2 (Kenzie/Ben vs. Maria/Quitavius)... never mind. That would send Charlie home because Kenzie and Ben aren't just gonna draw rocks since Maria and Quitavius would both be immune.

...Charlie telling Maria that the vote is Quitavius may blow up in his face. He should've asked her what she thinks about the vote. WHOOPS!
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Underleveled posted...
It wasn't active so I don't count it.

Yeah, he never had possession of the idol.
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Nobody sucks!
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