Fair enough on FD. If Ulti and Sultan stay shackled together, and I'm advocating to give Chris a night to confirm himself with two separate people, then my PoE is pretty much just Lopen/MZero.
More people seem to be defending MZero at the moment than Lopen. I'm kind of at a loss for direction right now, and probably need a little time to see some other people's reactions.
Ulti, I still want to lynch Sultan here, even if I'm assuming Chris is being truthful. Just sayin'. It's definitely possible that Sultan as scum didn't move last night.
Sultan. Order of operations. When did Chris claim with you?
I'm just annoied most of you think I'm scum for stupid reason. I played a strategy and not the norm so I must be scum it's fucking stupid. And OMGUS
I'm just annoied most of you think I'm scum for stupid reason. I played a strategy and not the norm so I must be scum it's fucking stupid. And OMGUS
It's not just D1 Sultan. It's also how you acted D2. You can say it was "strategy" to date Chris D2 even if he was your suspect, but all that means is you knowingly kept someone you suspected of being scum out of the pool and let town lynch a pile of unknowns instead.
Or you're just scum and found a date that wasn't going to dump you when you knew you had people advocating for you to be the one lynched. Your "strategy" conveniently doubled as a way to cowardly sit back and not have any risk on your shoulders.
Plenty of other town players gave up their dates at various points in the game when it looked like the current pool of unpaired didn't look good. You didn't. Why should I trust your "strategy" over people like Lea who willingly put herself out there even as town to allow us more flexibility?
I don't think you're using OMGUS correctly. You weren't suspecting all of the people who have you heavily in the POE. If it were just people pointing the finger back at you, I would agree that it'd be dumb. That's not happening at all. People are pointing fingers at you because of the way you are interacting with the game mechanics, and saving your own skin above all else.
so who's the scum?
It's not just D1 Sultan. It's also how you acted D2. You can say it was "strategy" to date Chris D2 even if he was your suspect, but all that means is you knowingly kept someone you suspected of being scum out of the pool and let town lynch a pile of unknowns instead.
Or you're just scum and found a date that wasn't going to dump you when you knew you had people advocating for you to be the one lynched. Your "strategy" conveniently doubled as a way to cowardly sit back and not have any risk on your shoulders.
This topic reads like scum is mad Im taking their mislynch from them.
how many scum do you think there areMzero what's your issue with me exactly we were on the same page yesterday and in our chat?
My PoE going into today was Lopen + Sultan. If youre saying Sultan is town, Ill drop him and assume Lopen + ?.
Lopen specifically is giving me vibes from Chriss kingmaker game and FF7, where he was able to manipulate town through strange mechanics to win. Openly calling for triple+ kills is so unbelievably anti-town.
If Chris backs up Sultan not claiming then Sultan is town.
My poe coming into today was
Kirby, Ulti, JC
Lopen on the bubble then he came into today doing very close to what I told Chris Lopen wasn't doing soo see how I jumped against that
Mzero what's your issue with me exactly we were on the same page yesterday and in our chat?
Was Corrik due for a scan today? I didnt double check the wording on his claim.
Lopen
Their is more to the chat but this is when Chris said he started to trust me
Chris didn't claim to me.
I came into the chat he interrogated me asked for all my reads asked me to claim and honestly thought he was going to come in and be like yeah let's kill sultan didn't find out he was prostitute until I got my message.
if Chris started to trust you during your night chat why did you think he was going to try and kill you?
Even Peaf's fake claim, pretty much everyone scoffed at it but you seemed to be conflicted. Even Ulti at least committed to calling Peaf town. You were just kind of waffling
I think Mzero is town because he said something Peaf said "sounded like a lie" and it feels like scum scum wouldn't do that
I'm also mortally convinced Isquen is town. I'll tell you why later
Well slip is a strong word but obviously Peaf would know Isquen isn't being NK'd if they're both scum
Of course it could be faked but it feels more like TMI personally
Wasn't waffling was trying to understand it. And also thought Lea was making things up at the same time. Belive claims at first is a down fall I've always had. Hence why I love open set up when I play and why I did well in champs and else where don't over think set ups and possibilities. You should know that
Why do I feel like peaf is hiding something... cuz now I have the same thought. That as a watcher that doesn't get much other info is a bit hmm blah idk
Wait Mzero why you mentioning this now??
Beacuse our conversation was very one sided I did majority of the talking. So thought He was just going to be like yeah yeah you're fine I trust you then come in and say the opposite
My conversation with Chris was very one sided until I gianed his trust basically.
But had some back and forth after.
Corrik: I don't think he had any reason to do his claim yesterday and make the arguments he did as scum. Very interested to see if he comes in today with a new analysis after seeing that Red was the reason no one claimed Cop when he asked for it.
Isquen: The weakest read of the above. I think Isquen could have taken free dates yesterday like Ulti's. But even at end of day, Isquen was being picky about his date. Maybe there's some scum role that explains this behavior and didn't want to date Vanilla Ulti, but my initial interpretation here is that Isquen was acting in a townie manner. Isquen is maybe bottom of Town/Top of PoE list.
I then claimed Gambit, Town Gambler. I said my ability was to redirect the night kill to the person I was in the room with once per game and if I redirected to town I would be unable to issue date requests the next day. I told him I was going to 100% use it tonight and I had decided to do this because. 1. I was not 100% sure he was town. 2. We were the big mislynches left on the table. 3. To gain another cop scan.
I ended up finally townclearing Ulti due to how he and Dumey were reacting yesterday to end of day
It felt like Dumey was fishing for reasons to not break up and kept asking Ulti "hey bro you sure you'll be ok if we break up" and Ulti is like "yes break up I said that already"
And then Dumey didn't do it in the end without having Ulti to blame for it
That claim is a Lopen scum classic, btw.
Was Reds scan last night revealed?
9v2
Worst case scenario -3 town + -1 town from Night Kill.
5v2
Still one mislynch left.
Better case scenario where we hit one scum.
6v1.
Two mislynches left.
If we go one by one.
7v2
5v2
But two of the dead are outside of the trio of kills that Lopen and I both want to test.
It really just trades a day of night actions and discussion to have one less scum control over the dead. Depends how valuable our night actions are I suppose.
Kirby hasn't done much of anything, seemed to be saved and also the way things went down with peaf day 1 seems Meh. Out of those attacking me it seems the least.