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"Sultan, how many players normally get banned, and to a less important degree murdered, during the average mafia game?" asked Lea and she sat on the floor of the Archchancellor's office rocking back and forth. She hadn't left her office since this ill-fated game began. If a hot manipulative woman can get lynched, no one is safe anymore. And she was beginning to fear she had done a racism by causing a one sided genocide of all the "evil" students.

"Uhhh I dunno lol, let me crunch the numbers," replied Sultan the Bursar as he began to Taekwondo a pile of budget spreadsheets. "...Zero."

"And how many were banned in mine so far?"

"Um well two I think"

"Exactly! Two! Do you know what kind of abhorrent shit people have posted in the last decade without getting banned? It's bad, it's real bad, game over man, game over. Everyone's going to think I'm a bad archchancellor!" Lea shrieked hysterically.

"It's not that bad snap out of it bro calm down it's cool," Sultan said comfortingly as he roundhouse kicked her in the face.

"You're right, you're right. Everything will be fine. It's fine. THIS IS FINE. Anyway, what was it you wanted to tell me?"

"Well it seems like this student was murdered last night."

"...How can you even tell?"

Isquen has died. He was:

Its like God spilled a person.

You are Garret, TOWN Vanilla.

Just a weird looking, weird sounding dude who keeps on keeping on as a recurring minor character. Look, 19 is a lot of role PMs, don't judge me.

You have no abilities beyond your voice and your vote.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

Enrolled :
1. Ben
2. Blade
3. Chang
4. Corrik
5. Ctes
6. Death
7. FD
8. IGCD
9. Kirby
10. MI
11. Peaf
12. Red
13. Sbell
14. Mzero (Replaced Taco)
15. Ulti

Expelled :
[LD1] Knightz - Evil Abed, MAFIA Roleblocking Rolecop Dreamateer
[LD2] Wallz - Evil Annie, MAFIA Framing Doppelganger
[KN2] Isquen - Garret, TOWN Vanilla

Vanished:
[VD1] Lopen - ???

It is now Day Three. With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends Monday May 6th at 6 PM EST.

You may now post.
Lea
Ok 1 lynch closer to shooting Corrik.
All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
Pretty much most of the game is basically town.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
I genuinely don't get the Isquen kill at all. Wall's flip virtually confirmed Corrik's lie (It's pretty obvious Wall was roleblocked trying to get tracked or watched) and attempt to frame me. This should've put instant scrutiny on the people trying to lynch me first when either Corrik or Wall's flip psuedo-cleared me. Like, I was going to immediately put Isquen and SBell under scrutiny after Corrik to see if one or both was clearly following scum's agenda. I don't understand why in the world anyone would have shot one of them.

But yeah if you think scum Blade who knows Wall got roleblocked sending the kill (essentially confirmed by the flip that he was trying to get tracked or watched) ever acts that way towards town Corrik claiming an RB he knows is a lie then it must be really embarrassing to be you tbqh.

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 posted...
I genuinely don't get the Isquen kill at all. Wall's flip virtually confirmed Corrik's lie (It's pretty obvious Wall was roleblocked trying to get tracked or watched) and attempt to frame me. This should've put instant scrutiny on the people trying to lynch me first when either Corrik or Wall's flip psuedo-cleared me. Like, I was going to immediately put Isquen and SBell under scrutiny after Corrik to see if one or both was clearly following scum's agenda. I don't understand why in the world anyone would have shot one of them.

But yeah if you think scum Blade who knows Wall got roleblocked sending the kill (essentially confirmed by the flip that he was trying to get tracked or watched) ever acts that way towards town Corrik claiming an RB he knows is a lie then it must be really embarrassing to be you tbqh.
What does anything wallz did or didn't do have to do with you?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Including Death!

Him and ctes are my two biggest town reads. Good job to the protection! Stay hidden, keep me alive, win.
Death had a much stronger day 2 than he had day 1 I would agree.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Corrik7 posted...
What does anything wallz did or didn't do have to do with you?
Your only action of the entire day yesterday was "I definitely blocked Blade sending the nightkill". It was your entire basis for every action you committed in the entire day.

Wall's flip removes that basis from play, and exposes it for the flimsy lie it was.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
But seriously dude if you're going to try to get someone mislynched on that kind of lie why me

Was this just about trying to knock me down a peg or something?
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Meow1000 posted...
Your only action of the entire day yesterday was "I definitely blocked Blade sending the nightkill". It was your entire basis for every action you committed in the entire day.

Wall's flip removes that basis from play, and exposes it for the flimsy lie it was.
Wallz being jailkept has nothing to do with my roleblock.

Im starting to wonder if you assumed I was lying cuz ur teammate was roleblocked on the night kill.

I know for a fact you are lying that you know for a fact you weren't roleblocked by me when it was uninformed. I painted exactly why yesterday it's a lie from any alignment.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
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I'm not wasting my time with your everything revolves around me stuff today though. Not every thing in this game revolves around you.

I wanna look at those day 1 and day 2 votals again knowing day 1 was scum-scum and day 2 was wallz with people trying to misdirect onto me.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Corrik7 posted...
Pretty much most of the game is basically town.
Can you list them out?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Lets just resolve this today since were so far ahead.

##Vote: Corrik
Nooooo I want to shoot him.
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Chang can only be scum if he could only kill scum with that. But, scum taking control of the lynch is basically taboo across the board so he has to be town. Kirby is guaranteed town. So is me and the other guy I mentioned day 1. MI is probably guaranteed town as well. Sbell probably.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Corrik7 posted...
I'm not wasting my time with your everything revolves around me stuff today though. Not every thing in this game revolves around you.

I wanna look at those day 1 and day 2 votals again knowing day 1 was scum-scum and day 2 was wallz with people trying to misdirect onto me.
Day 1 was Knightz-Knightz. This was decided, by Wallz himself and the whole scum team, halfway through day 1.

Day 2 was Chang's choice. There is nothing to analyze
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I got love for everybody letting me have fun yesterday <3

I mean, we were probably lynching Wallz regardless but yeah

pretty busy for the next 24 hours but I'll have some good time Sunday night and a bit of time on Monday if I'm needed
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
PunishedBen posted...
Day 1 was Knightz-Knightz. This was decided, by Wallz himself and the whole scum team, halfway through day 1.

Day 2 was Chang's choice. There is nothing to analyze
There are votals when it was wallz knights. And the votak before the Chang shit. Wallz was the obvious lynch and I was on him while Blade tried to drown everyone out onto me.
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
UltimaterializerX posted...
Lets just resolve this today since were so far ahead.

##Vote: Corrik
Corrik is just about confirmed scum at this point, but we should give it some breathing space first. He can't argue that I was blocked sending the kill anymore, so he's just going to argue I put an absolutely ridiculous target on my back for no reason on day 2.

The only thing I do there as scum is not confirm or deny anything to leave my options open. As it stands, I've already almost claim locked myself.

I can't think of any conceivable motive scum me has to straight up pick a fight with Corrik when about to be down 2 players.

I do want to pressure SBell though. It's very clear I was the best lynch for scum by a mile yesterday.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Here's the thing, Corrik going after Wallz on day 1, continuing into day 2, looked like a bus before we even flipped Wallz. Corrik never actually explains why Wallz is obvious scum. And when asked to on day 2 he said "Never mind the post I thought I didn't like from Wallz actually looks good to me now. " Then continues to call Wallz obvious scum lol. Its such an attempt to make us exonerate Wallz were we to kill Corrik yesterday. Because surely his own scummate wouldn't go after him that hard

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/
I have discovered some interesting information about Blade though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegnn27aoZk

(this is a shitpost don't take me seriously please)
The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal
UltimaterializerX posted...
Blade, the Isquen kill was a doctor hunt. They cannot win this game if I keep running around confirming people. They have to break the loop with blind hail mary shots.
I mean I guess that makes sense. They shot a vanilla squarely in my POE though my god what a kill.

But like let's break this down.

Knightz dies.
Kirby blocks the kill.
Wall is going to die when Kirby claims.

Corrik is claiming I'm scum trying to 1 for 1 him.

Why in god's name would I try to go for a 1 for 1 as scum effectively down 2 members without a single dead town in the game.

If anyone can figure THAT out, I salute you.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
I'll give Kirby the benefit of the doubt for now. Seems like he would the obvious kill choice tonight, especially if scum had a strongman. But he can't possibly expect to claim jailkeeper and stay alive till end game so.... he's 99% town. And the fact it looks like Wallz was a ninja who had to make the kill to frame someone, it does make it more likely Kirby actually blocked the kill yesterday
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PunishedBen posted...
Here's the thing, Corrik going after Wallz on day 1, continuing into day 2, looked like a bus before we even flipped Wallz. Corrik never actually explains why Wallz is obvious scum. And when asked to on day 2 he said "Never mind the post I thought I didn't like from Wallz actually looks good to me now. " Then continues to call Wallz obvious scum lol. Its such an attempt to make us exonerate Wallz were we to kill Corrik yesterday. Because surely his own scummate wouldn't go after him that hard
I called Wallz out as scum on day 1 for two independent reasons, but the second was that he was specifically continuing to ignore SBell and I's bickering. Wallz' behavior makes me believe that SBell is town, but SBell's behavior yesterday was clearly gunning for scum's preferred course of action, so I want to nudge him today.

Also Wallz got hilariously defensive the moment I suspected him to start the game.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
changmas posted...
I have discovered some interesting information about Blade though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jegnn27aoZk

(this is a shitpost don't take me seriously please)
LOL
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Meow1000 posted...
I mean I guess that makes sense. They shot a vanilla squarely in my POE though my god what a kill.

But like let's break this down.

Knightz dies.
Kirby blocks the kill.
Wall is going to die when Kirby claims.

Corrik is claiming I'm scum trying to 1 for 1 him.

Why in god's name would I try to go for a 1 for 1 as scum effectively down 2 members without a single dead town in the game.

If anyone can figure THAT out, I salute you.
See how Blade keeps lying. I said clearly once Kirby jailkept wallz that blade is lying as any alignment but nonetheless lying.

It's interesting.
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Currently playing: Control (X1)
PunishedBen posted...
I'll give Kirby the benefit of the doubt for now. Seems like he would the obvious kill choice tonight, especially if scum had a strongman. But he can't possibly expect to claim jailkeeper and stay alive till end game so.... he's 99% town. And the fact it looks like Wallz was a ninja who had to make the kill to frame someone, it does make it more likely Kirby actually blocked the kill yesterday
Kirby being alive and Isquen being as Ulti presumed, a likely doctor hunt, suggests that scum simply does not have the ability to kill unblockably. It's possible they did and wasted it on Lopen day 1.

Kirby had no reason whatsoever to bus Wall under the circumstances of yesterday. He's town.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Corrik7 posted...
See how Blade keeps lying. I said clearly once Kirby jailkept wallz that blade is lying as any alignment but nonetheless lying.

It's interesting.
You've already accused me of trying to 1 for 1 you before soooo
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Noticing a trend at 24 hours of death or taking control of lynches btw.
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Currently playing: Control (X1)
Corrik7 posted...
Chang can only be scum if he could only kill scum with that. But, scum taking control of the lynch is basically taboo across the board so he has to be town. Kirby is guaranteed town. So is me and the other guy I mentioned day 1. MI is probably guaranteed town as well. Sbell probably.
Thats not even close to most of the game
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I say this because. What if at 24 hours Chang took control of the lynch but he was also janitored at 24 hours. This makes me wonder if both actions were by the same person. How else would you resolve that. Just no one could vote then for 24 hours?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
So chang did you janitor lopen?
Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7
Currently playing: Control (X1)
Corrik7 posted...
Noticing a trend at 24 hours of death or taking control of lynches btw.
Chang took control about 5 hours previously. He made it clear he was not going to wait 24 hours out of fear of what happened to Lopen happening to him.

The fun part about Chang is what I mentioned yesterday. The game is dotted with random Chang suspicion. Like I was told I should suspect Chang for the things I was suspecting Wall on early day 1 when they were completely different things. It feels like momentum towards him was constantly in the background but I never bought into any of the "Hey why not suspect Chang" that kept floating around.

Look into the people that kept floating Chang's name and you've got a decent chance at finding scum.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
PunishedBen posted...
Thats not even close to most of the game
My list is not definitive because I haven't analyzed stuff regarding wallz and knightz yet but I can say quite readily that most of the game is confirmed town. Especially once a cop or whatever claims.
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Currently playing: Control (X1)
PunishedBen posted...
Thats not even close to most of the game
Because not even close to most of the game is actually "confirmed".

You have MZero, Chang, and Kirby in their own tier. "Near certain town"

Death, Ulti, IGCD in the next tier of "Probably just town"

Ben, SBell, MI in "I want to trust but Paranoid" tier

You have Corrik as scum

And then we have Ctes, FD, Peaf, and Red as people I currently feel in no particular way about.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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One thing I get from Wallz is that I think he spews two people as town. The first is Ctes. In this post he nudges Ctes who is the last player to show up. Firstly, I think he's the kind of guy who would only say "I hope he is doing well" when he actually means it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e9ec85e1.jpg

Then as soon as Ctes DOES show up, Wallz calls it a SCUMMON. And they fight over this, Wallz defends his position that it is scummy to show up at this moment. Not a thing scummates often do to their own.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a5ff58a.png
Then later on near the end of day we have Wallz throwing more shade on Ctes. And the way he does this is exactly for the same reasons he threw shade on Chang. Knightz was the decided lynch, and Wallz spends the second half of the day setting up for targets to push day 2. He does this by TMI'ing that Knightz is scum, and using the fact he is scum to build cases that will look good once Knightz flips scum. He does it to poor Ctes here the same way he did to Chang
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Man Wallz was still being scummy as shit even when I wasn't there
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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I know Ulti will say Ctes is already confirmed town, but some of us here have to work for our reads

The second person I think Wallz makes clear is town....I will save for later!
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I am so good on day ones that I nailed him before he made a single post.
I nailed him on post #51 being scummy as fuck deflection for the early game

Just shy of page 1 damnit
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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changmas posted...
I got love for everybody letting me have fun yesterday <3

You deserved it!

But seriously, great job on not only the lynch but delivering on the hype. I'm glad Winger went to someone who could appreciate the flavor.

.

Anyways, I'm going to reread Isquen when I get a chance. Did they drop a power hint or something? That's just a head scratcher of a night kill.
~C~ FD
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PunishedBen posted...
I know Ulti will say Ctes is already confirmed town, but some of us here have to work for our reads

The second person I think Wallz makes clear is town....I will save for later!
Is it me because he hilariously overreacted the second I put pressure on him and started acting like I think I'm some sort of day 1 god

But wow I actually catch one early day 1 maybe that SK game rubbed off on me
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Death after day 1 was on the fringe of my immediate POE

Death after day 2 was pretty solidly out of my POE
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104
Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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