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Just bought it to check it runs smoothly on my PC. Gonna leave it in my library for a week encouraging me to get through work before playing, but it looks like there's already a lot of content in there.
Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along.
They say it already has more environments, enemies, and voiced characters than the full version of the first game
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
They say it already has more environments, enemies, and voiced characters than the full version of the first game
Yeah, very promising, especially considering I think most complaints about the original were that content was limited for a roguelite.
Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along.
.....how can I tell what my PC's graphics situation is (and if it's sufficiently comparable to "GeForce GTX 950, Radeon R7 360, or Intel HD Graphics 630")

on the cusp of finally registering a Steam account but dont want to buy the game if I don't meet the minimum graphics specs which I suspect I don't, my PC is almost 7 years old, lol...
MartinFF7 posted...
.....how can I tell what my graphics card is (and if it's sufficiently comparable to "GeForce GTX 950, Radeon R7 360, or Intel HD Graphics 630")

on the cusp of finally registering a Steam account but dont want to buy the game if I don't meet the minimum graphics specs which I suspect I don't, my PC is almost 7 years old, lol...
Device manager -> Display Adapters should show you. Mine's four years old and barely had a mid-range graphics card then, but it looks like it's more than able to run it, so fingers crossed it wouldn't be a problem for you either. There's always the steam deck if not...
Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along.
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Hell yeah the bare minimum attained, let's fucking goooooooooooo!!!!

Hades II officially going to be my first Steam purchase, going to register an account there and buy it later today, thank you for posting this to let us know the early access game was out! Just finished my replay of o.g. Hades the other day (had to force myself to stop repeatedly grinding darkness/gemstones) so hype level at max for me.
You can return a Steam game within two hours too, if it doesn't play well on your system.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
Is it much higher requirement than Hades 1??
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processor requirement is same, 8 GB ram instead of 4, but Hades 1 required 5 GB more storage space interestingly enough. Hades 1 graphics minimum was "1GB VRAM / DirectX 10+ support" (whatever that means). I played it on console but no way I'm waiting that long to experience this there.

MacArrowny posted...
You can return a Steam game within two hours too, if it doesn't play well on your system.

thanks Mac, good to know & I will also keep that in mind
Does it still have God Mode (or something equivalent)? That permanent stat-based progression between runs was important for me to stay engaged.

I normally steer clear of games in early access, but if this is already more content-rich than the first Hades... maybe I'll jump.

I'll miss Zagreus tho. :(

edit: Oh the Steam store page says God Mode is in, hooray.
Change is weird.
WazzupGenius00 posted...
They say it already has more environments, enemies, and voiced characters than the full version of the first game
That's insane what
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mnk posted...
Does it still have God Mode (or something equivalent)? That permanent stat-based progression between runs was important for me to stay engaged.

Yeah, not sure if it's completely identical but it's in the options
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I'm getting very tempted to go ahead and pick this up >_<
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Despite being a horrible procrastinator I mvoed on this fast - Steam account registered and installed, game purchased and downloaded, wireless controller for the Switch I bought months ago and hadn't set up yet now paired w/ my PC. Just shy of 2 hours played but no way I'm refunding this. No issues running it on my PC, thankfully.

Definitely a ton of fun, there's moments where the smile on my face was so large, the magic was back. Got to 2nd region boss on my third try and got smoked so badly, lol. Some not-so-fun surprises (would've been nice to know I can only carry one tool before spending resources unlocking the 2nd one) but that's part of the magic of this uncharted territory, I guess!

Waluigi1 posted...
I'm getting very tempted to go ahead and pick this up >_<

Do itttttt
Reached the second boss, it does something Im kinda surprised they hadnt done at all in the first game

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I got to the third boss last night and alllllmost won. I'm kinda surprised I did since the build I was using was definitely on life support. Felt super weak.

Only one of my six or seven runs so far I've felt like I had a strong build, though I biffed the one I had, well maybe not biffed considering it was super strong but required me to not be able to dodge properly for like 3 seconds straight at a time. I think that feels similar to Hades 1 though where you really don't feel strong until you've done a bunch of runs and you finally start to get things going that work.
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Have reached and died to the second boss twice in a row. I had a REALLY good run going until Eris cursed me with +20% damage per room, stacking, so that I couldnt afford to get hit ever.
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Man, the weapon you shoot with the skulls continues to feel underwhelming. I really want to make an attack build for it work and got a bunch of things for it... and then it still felt terrible :(
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Meanwhile. AXE OP OP
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There's an aspect for the flames that makes the shots explode that seems a lot more powerful but doesn't exactly feel better to play.

I gotta say I'm sorta disappointed with the weapons in this one. The staff is ok but the only one I really like are the blades which are the most similar to a Hades 1 weapon. The skulls are kind of like the cast shield aspect in the first game which I liked but feel worse. The axe I haven't had a chance to get a good feel for but it's VERY slow and while it can block, the delay between blocking and the omega move on the special means you get hit which is...a choice.

I don't think it's bad necessarily but the gameplay changes in this game don't mesh with how I liked to play Hades 1. Everything in this game is highly dependent on charge attacks, the dash nerf means you need to be more precise and/or do more hit an run strategies from at range. Feels like the bow was the template for the combat design in 2 and that was my least favorite weapon by far.
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Oh the axe can dash delay its combos, that makes it way better
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I'm "not interest"-ing anything Hades-related in my youtube recommendations and I deleted everything Hades-related in my watch history but I still just got hit with a big Hades 2 spoiler on my youtube recommendation page, fuck. Be careful out there, folks.
Had a cool water throwing knife build that got me to 4th "world" boss and then I died the death. :(
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Beat the second boss, but I got absolutely wrecked by the third boss.
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Weirdly I think the third area is easier than the second

Maybe not absolutely but the spike in difficulty is much smaller

Fourth isn't fucking around at all though

topside is kinda confusing progression-wise idk where it stacks up yet but I think I'm going to push further up there before going for the Cronos kill
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How do you escape the first boss' sheep attack? It's never prevented me from winning, but I've never been able to dodge it for long enough to kill the minions.
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How do you escape the first boss' sheep attack? It's never prevented me from winning, but I've never been able to dodge it for long enough to kill the minions.

Dodge through it a bunch rather than trying to run away from it.
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Also, I think I'm done using Umbral Flames until it's like buffed or something. This weapon feels so incredibly bad. I've done three different builds for it and every time it's just been slow and feels awful.

I got to world 3 with them and was struggling to kill basic enemies. Weapon is actual trash lol. I just let myself die, not worth going through that torture.
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Weirdly I think the third area is easier than the second

just finished up my latest run where I got to third area boss (btw fuck Eris, seriously) and I also found 3rd area easier than 2nd, but I did get a Daedalus hammer that fit my playstyle so maybe that helped. I really liked the build I had going there...

I hate to ask but I gotta ask this question: when you plant in your pot of soil and it says it'll take "5 (clocksymbol)" to bloom. Nowhere does it define what the clock symbol represents, as far as I could tell. But I know it's not 5 nights because I just did that one run to 3rd area and they were bloomed when i was back uh maybe it was 2 runs actually, but still I know it wasn't 5. So does anyone know definitively what that "5" represents? surely it's not as simple as 5 "locations"?
The clock represents encounters with enemies. I don't know if that includes boss rooms, though.
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Thanks, I guess process of elimination is all that was left with that but still... feels like a pretty low growth requirement, though I guess it is the lowest of the plants so fair enough! Was the clock defined somewhere and I missed it?

also, every time I encounter a fishing point I curse my not having the materials for the fishing rod ;___;
Tried the skull wand weapon. It's fun, but it just does zero damage.

Nemesis' Evil Eye trinket seems way worse than Odysseus' Knuckle Bones. Unless you go down to non-bosses, I guess.
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Ok first boss kill complete after 26 runs! Basically wound up with a bunch of defensive boons and a legendary bonus death defiance to outlast the boss. Typical first winning Hades build lol. Plus I was using the knives which I am actually good at playing.

Given that the mount olympus route is unfinished in EA this may be a good stopping point. At least, I'm not gonna be going as hard on it anymore. There's still a bunch of stuff I didn't get around to but the permanent progression feels MUCH slower than in the original Hades so I don't know how much time I want to sink into it before the first major balance patch.
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^ congrats!! damn 26 runs, I think I'm still at like 6 or 7, damn work getting in the way... also man this game feels harder than the original but I'm sure I felt that way about the original when i first played it too.

MartinFF7 posted...
Was the clock defined somewhere and I missed it?

ok after my last run for the night I encountered a clock definition in another place. But they definitely didn't have it on the pot of soil so, guess that'll be one piece of early access feedback I provide!!

the only other thing bothering me is the lack of a posted chamber number. Did people not like that in the original? Personally I liked knowing how far I was from the region's end, yeah there being a Charon room signifies that anyways but still, I'd like to get into the habit of knowing which chamber numbers mark the end of which regions.

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Tried the skull wand weapon. It's fun, but it just does zero damage.

yeah I stopped playing for the night before starting 2nd region and I'm using that weapon and yeah... unless I get some boons that jack up magic quickly enough to spam omega attack it's looking like a short lived run.

The staff really is the one I had the most success with and while I'm trying to go with whichever weapon has the dark power thingy I can see myself sticking w/ the staff until I get my first clear.
First time I broke past Oceanus I made it all the way to the boss of the fourth area. Don't feel like I really learned anything about that one because I got too distracted by the adds
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MartinFF7 posted...
the only other thing bothering me is the lack of a posted chamber number. Did people not like that in the original? Personally I liked knowing how far I was from the region's end, yeah there being a Charon room signifies that anyways but still, I'd like to get into the habit of knowing which chamber numbers mark the end of which regions.

It's in there somewhere, I want to say top right corner when you open your boons screen? It'll say "location x." It's not visually obvious.

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Nemesis' Evil Eye trinket seems way worse than Odysseus' Knuckle Bones. Unless you go down to non-bosses, I guess.

oh also I believe the trick to Evil Eye is that it includes Death Defiances, not just your run ender, so if you die during a boss fight you then get the bonus damage when you revive. That said I still prefer Knuckle Bones and used it in my clear, but if you told me that Evil Eye scales better I'd believe it.

Speaking of trinkets, I'm convinced Hecate's that gives you like 2000 extra MP must be insanely good in some builds (maybe the wands), but I didn't mess around with it much past the start of the game and settled on a more generic build rotation for my trinkets (usually starting with Charon money purse -> third zone friendly npc trinket -> skelly revive or knuckle bones)
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So like, its supposed to be nearly impossible to win a contest against Nemesis right? Youd have to have an insane damage output to beat her and she can just last-hit your kills anyway
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
So like, its supposed to be nearly impossible to win a contest against Nemesis right? Youd have to have an insane damage output to beat her and she can just last-hit your kills anyway

Had my first run-in with her in a pre-work run I did this morning and yeah. Maybe at higher levels if you're able to one-shot the enemies? I was blasting my omegas and it wasnt close.

Almost as rude an awakening as Eris encounters (who's been there each time I made it to 3rd region and I'm getting really pissed off here)
I beat her easily, she only got one kill, but I was using the staff with a bunch of power-ups to improve the charge attack and snipe anything in a second.
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MartinFF7 posted...
Almost as rude an awakening as Eris encounters (who's been there each time I made it to 3rd region and I'm getting really pissed off here)

Oh lmao I only have run into her the initial time which I figured was scripted to slow your progression on purpose. Didn't know she could keep showing up. Truly an agent of chaos.

Nemesis though I've run into a lot and beating her contest is dramatically more difficult if you encounter her early versus late. I've also tied her which does nothing. But she at least has a variety of events that can pop up so it's not always a contest.
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Was your initial time at beginning of Oceanus? That was mine, and then 3 start of third region... think I made it there three times so far. Maybe i didnt get her one time if I got there 4x. Well maybe my runs tonight will be more fortunate!!
It really depends on your build too. Some builds are safer and do damage slowly and some builds you take the Axe and you can just one shot everything because it's the best weapon!
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MartinFF7 posted...
Was your initial time at beginning of Oceanus? That was mine, and then 3 start of third region... think I made it there three times so far. Maybe i didnt get her one time if I got there 4x. Well maybe my runs tonight will be more fortunate!!

Oh no it was start of fourth region

Guess I'm lucky???
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I have made it to Chronos more than once and have only seen Eris that one scripted time
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
I have made it to Chronos more than once and have only seen Eris that one scripted time

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Zigzagoon posted...
It really depends on your build too. Some builds are safer and do damage slowly and some builds you take the Axe and you can just one shot everything because it's the best weapon!

I have a very cautious playstyle and am sticking with ranged attacks while I'm still getting used to enemy patterns. So my runs are feeling pretty damn slow compared to how I remember burning through the original game... I wonder if the Eris curses are punishment for my taking my time or if it's just a coincidence I keep getting hammered.
Got to Chronos, but I couldn't keep up with his damage. Where do I get the reagent to open up the ward to the surface? I've been through four areas now, and never seen it, and people keep nudging me to do it.
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Got to Chronos, but I couldn't keep up with his damage. Where do I get the reagent to open up the ward to the surface? I've been through four areas now, and never seen it, and people keep nudging me to do it.

One of the ingredients requires a separate alchemy ritual to make, it unlocked automatically for me the night after the ward unsealing ritual was added
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I found it, thank you.
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The complaints I'm hearing about this seem like reason to wait a patch or two. I also never beat a single run of Hades.
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