Westbrick posted... I'm surprised no one's mentioned the NES. Most of the gamer friends like to argue that it's the best (and I even have one who argues that the 5200, including backwards compatibility, wins out). What's B8's thoughts on this?
There were a few new titles, but the PS and N64 mostly represented the SNES splitting apart into multiple systems going into the next generation, that's pretty much why I have it as the best, cause though it's a generation before, it's pretty much the best of both worlds, and that combination is enough to beat any of the next gen systems even with older graphics (not that there aren't plenty of 2d games that are still good).
The NES really only has a few smash hits (such as Zelda 1, SMB 3 and Ninja Gaiden), and some of the stuff that would normally probably be considered top tier (like Megaman and Metroid), along with some stuff that probably wouldn't (like Contra), got surpassed during the SNES era, not to mention the fact that it pretty much lacked whole genres (like RPGs, fighters, and actiion RPGs). You also have stuff like SMB, though good, is still pretty overrated. Then there's also the controller, the SNES controller introduced shoulder buttons, along with the fact that many new controllers still use the four button setup on the right hand side. In my experience, the people who rate the NES the best usually aren't really gamers, and some it could even be argued that they quit gaming after the NES.
The Atari also has some really good games, but it's library is even more lacking then the NES. I almost never hear anyone rate the Atari as the best.
Around here I haven't seen too many people put the NES or Atari as number one also
Counting everything (including 3ds and Arcades), the PS3 is the most relevant system right now though, mostly because of UMvC 3 (and MvC 3) and SFxT. Once this fighter madness dies down though it'll probably shift over to the 3ds, or at the very least, a bunch of titles will be worth going back for on that system.
RPGLord95 posted... MrSmartGuy posted... Usually like 20 minutes.
I have the amazing property of producing almost zero body odor, so I only shower like, twice a week. So when I do take a shower, I play some music and enjoy it.
lies, you just don't smell it. Others do
I've been showering about once or twice a week for awhile also, if I showered everyday, you could probably knock about 5 minutes off of my usual time.
Star Wars has definitely lost the level of magic it had from when it was first created in the late 70s, but not completely, and I wouldn't really say it lost it until a few years ago, the early 00s were pretty good to it also. I was still pretty interested in seeing the first one in 3d, and considering the impact of this franchise, it probably wouldn't be too bad of a thing if they redid the entire series with no additions besides 3d (this isn't meant to knock 3d either since I think the new 3d stuff is really kool, but there are still very few things worthy of being done just as themselves but in 3d), and I'm far from a huge Star Wars fan. I also think most people wouldn't mind seeing 3 sequels to the originals either, it just may feel like going to see something that you just found out about that looks and is just kind of worth it, instead of the beyond block buster feel that Star Wars had in the past.
V>VI>III>IV>I>II (this probably stays the same also if you watch them from I-VI instead of the way they were released).
They're all in the same order as the last time I ranked them(which was awhile ago), but one I hadn't watched since it originally came out in the theaters until I watched it in 3d. After gaining around 13 years or so of knowledge since I watched it, at least in general compared to other movies, it's definitely moved up some, and I'm pretty sure that even back then I probably should have had it higher then I had it. Two is the only one I'd probably put at a 5/10 also, the rest are definitely above that.
The Matrix 2 and 3 also should definitely not have gotten as much hate as they did, they weren't as good as the first one, but they weren't bad either, and it's still one of the best trilogies in existence.
I've only watched the first Transformers movie and I'd put that somewhere around mediocre. It was okay to watch once, but I wouldn't watch it again. Star Wars 1-3 all had some parts which were entertaining
I only watched the first one also, and I pretty much agree with this.
Vlado posted... The best Strider game is the NES one, Mozzezz.
Anyway, this reminds me that PSN's weekly show also has an attractive host... an Asian one, at that. Still not compelling enough to actually watch it regularly.
Hmmmm, I don't know about that, the NES beats the Genesis at almost everything but I don't know about this game. The Genesis one I actually watched a complete play through of it, and not only does it have the kool stuff you see in the initial levels and some of the kool power ups he's known for, it actually has gravity reversal at one point (though short and only in 2d), in a game that was made in 1989 (it was ported to the Genesis later though, that's when it was made in the Arcade, but even so, when it was ported, the game itself, along with that feature especially, was still pretty unique). I didn't watch the full NES game, but the circumstances around it, including pacing, suggest to me that it doesn't have that. Still though, it wouldn't have been too bad to own on the NES either. Here's the full play through I watched of the Genesis one (it says Arcade but it's the same game), it's two parts (but only 15 minutes total)...
GenesisTwilight posted... From: Aecioo | #011 I'm still surprised people buy Virtual Console games >_> I'd buy a hell of a lot more VC games if they didn't keep coming out with super obscure turbographix 16 games every week.
If you count Wii Ware (and new downloadable games on other systems), there are definitely some decent games in there, I download some demos, but the ones I actually bought for Wii were,
Donkey Kong Jr Math (NES) (this wasn't that good though)
Final Fantasy 4 The After Years (WiiWare) (it's an 8/10 at a minimum)
Dart Rage (WiiWare) (was a Christmas Present for my Dad a few years ago, but it was alright)
Tetris Party (WiiWare) (Didn't get to play it that much but it's pretty good).
For PS3 I got Super Star Dust HD (new game) for free when PS3 got hacked, I recently beat normal and got about halfway in hard (hard doesn't get unlocked in this game, there are 5 levels to every planet and 5 planets, when you beat the 5th planet on normal you cycle through to hard and keep going to other difficulties until you die, but if you do die, you can start from the 5th planet on normal). You can also play each planet individually and beat them on normal, which I did but it doesn't really matter. You can get all of it's DLC for $10 which includes extra modes, and I'll probably do tha since the game was pretty decent.
For the DSi XL I wound up getting a free game (that was new) but it wasn't that good (which I actually had to rebuy cause my DSi XL got stolen) (I tried to hold out on even buying this and wanted to just wait for the 3ds since it would be backwards compatible and I never owned any DS, but I hit a wall at one point where I really wasn't sure what I wanted to do, and my backlog was big enough (though just barely) with this that I could justify buying it and catching up) The free game wasn't that good though.
My 3DS I haven't even used yet, I hope to though within the next couple of months
Today I also saw that they released Strider in the Wii Shop Channel. I assumed he was either from some old fighting game with bad controls or possible just a comic. He had 4 games though (more if you count ports), 1 of them being unofficial, they were pretty much platformers but sort of like Ninja Gaiden. The one they released is the one from the arcade that got ported to the Sega Genesis. I spent like an hour looking into the series, and that game looked pretty awesome, it's probably the best in the series, and if you don't count that it's a port, I'd almost argue that it looks like it could be the best game on the Sega Genesis. I wish I knew about it earlier.
pretty much every show on the fox block, including whatever runs at 7:30
Bleach
Robot Chicken
Mad
Boondocks (not sure if they're gona make another season of this)
and
Futurama (if they're even gona make another season of that).
Durarara I watched within the last year (almost forgot about this show), it doesn't beat that, and I think there were one or two more things within the last 2 years, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo Week would give them a run for their money (and there were a few things within that time that could possible be considered web series, but I don't think any of them beat Nintendo Week). As far as the other shows I listed, atleast in recent years, Bleach is probably the best one there, and I'd put Nintendo Week right around it.
I don't know, I've been watching it though, I figured some people did and didn't expect to get this type of response. Maybe I should have just posted it on the Wii boards. The entire series is only like 20 hours long, so i's not too time consuming. I haven't been watching too many TV shows within the past year or two, most of my time is spent gaming and doing other various things, so atleast recently, this ranks up pretty high for me.
It's a show that's been on the Nintendo Channel (a channel that's on the Wii that was made to show you previews of trailers). It has hosts that pretty much tell you about upcoming games, but they also do funny skits. I don't think it started as soon as the Nintendo Channel started, but it's been running since around 6 months to a year since it started almost once a week, which I think was somewhere around 2008. Don't knock it, it's awesome.
And I forgot to mention that they skipped a couple weeks in January 2012, so I didn't have too much catching up to do.
Slightly over 100 episodes, I guess that's not a bad run when you consider the type of show it is and the circumstances around it. The main appeal to the show was the triple dynamic between her, Gary and Dark Gary. The last one had a guest host, but Gary with himself Dark Gary definitely can not carry the series, along with the fact that I'm not sure anyone can fill her shoes. The Gary and Dark Gary thing went from being a really kool part of the show to just feeling sad and depressing. I hadn't watched since 12/15/2011 (I possible saw the episode on 12/22/2011 but I don't think I did, I think I checked the Nintendo channel too early). The trailers that they chose to put on the Nintendo Channel itself (by that I mean the ones on the front 12 pages, not the stuff you can search for (I think it's 12 pages now)) also acts as enough of a summary of what's around that I'm not sure the show can hold up just based on the fact it tells you what's new that they think is good (along with some of it just being new) (along with having other sites that have top picks and newest stuff out). This was possible the best standard type show still around (though it was essentially a web series, but other then that it pretty much had everything in common with a regular show (a short one though like robot chicken)) , so I'll be pretty sad to see it go (standard show or not, I'd be pretty sad to see it go anyway though).
Still haven't goten to beat Skyward Sword yet (I've got to play maybe an average of 8 hours a week since release and I'm takin my time and not using a guide, dealin with a bunch of stuff). So I can't really truly rate it yet, but I'm pretty sure it'll be atleast second to Link to the Past. Besides that though, going up till Zelda 2 and WW this is the order I'd give...
ALttP>OoT>TP(Wii)>Zelda 1>Zelda 2=WW>the rest
The problem with Zelda 1 is that too many of the Secrets are too obscure. Yes, there is technically challenge in that, but it's mainly about how much you know about the designers which I don't think you really need as much as they make you deal with in the game. Since you can tell just by looking at few parts of Zelda right of the start that they are going for some realism, there are some spots that you can kind of guess based off of that (though also technically there is some knowledge about the designers in there cause you have to know what they're going for). But there's not enough of that. It be different if maybe they gave you the red candle earlier, or extra bombs, but they don't.
OoT was one of the first truly epic 3d adventure games, so you can't really knock it. It beats TP though because, though TP is really good, it still has the problem of having tired things from OoT. OoT doesn't beat ALttP mainly because it does have some cumbersome parts and the atmosphere is far better in ALttP.
ALttP is like an almost perfectly refined Zelda 1, maybe they could of did the shot from the master sword more like Zelda 1 but it isn't bad, maybe it could of had a bit more of a lonely feel, but there was really only one town, Zora domain wasn't that big, and there were only a few residents scattered throughout the Kingdom, but other then that, it pretty much has no other flaws (and both of those are highly debatable if they even are let alone by how much).
Zelda 2 has it's challenging parts but is lacking in almost every other area.
WW has the story, but is lacking in almost every other area.
Actually, the left handed keyboards now that I'm looking into them more aren't fully reversed. The reason I mentioned them is because I noticed the button positions on the left and right side of my keyboard are slightly of when trying to reverse the WASD setup. It still seems like it can be reasonable adapted to though.
I also forgot to mention Keyboard Cell phones vs Standard Controllers. I would argue Standard Controllers Still have their use though because of button size, which would deal with margin of error and speed (along with problems like skill transfer).
Then there's even the option of possible strapping and Keyboard and Mouse to you, possible in a stacked position. Here I would argue mobility and extra equipment. This puts a hole somewhat in my cramped space argument, but that could still come into play (then there's also stuff like skill improvement problems).
I'd say there are definitely more worthwhile games on consoles then PC, but PC definitely has it's fair share. I wanted to address the standard controller though. Motion controls (and other various accessories) have their obvious uses over the keyboard and mouse (especially when you look at motion controllers as just air mice), but the advantages of a controller become less obvious once you reach a certain level of gaming and realise almost everything that exists could be played with a keyboard and mouse and it doesn't take away much from any actual game, but the benefits of a controller are still there. What if you're in a cramped space and can't adequately use a keyboard and mouse, both in gaming or something in real life that you need to control (if you have a place to sit you could argue a laptop keyboard and mouse pad (that's of course if), but transferring your skills that you've gained from either keyboard and mouse or controller (or both) takes much more time to transfer them to the laptop mouse pad then transferring what you can from keyboard and mouse to controller (or the other way around). What if you don't have time to hone the muscle memory (and by muscle memory for this I mean the ability to hit the buttons without looking) to use a keyboard and mouse perfectly (granted, you could argue that a keyboard and mouse is actually easier depending on the game, but there's a point where it becomes much harder to train keyboard muscle memory then controller muscle memory, and depending on what you're playing, you may just want to train up the muscle memory you need on a controller rather then a keyboard and mouse (say for example you start out being able to press 3 buttons easily with your left hand on a keyboard, but lets say, and these times (or total amount of buttons) aren't at all accurate, it takes 10 hours to add an extra button on a keyboard that you can use semi correctly and 15 to use it perfectly, on a controller you start out with 1 with your left thumb lets say, but it only takes 5 hours to add 3 buttons that you can use semi correctly and lets also say though that you can't ever use them as effectively as a keyboard though to also address that possible issue, but the game you're playing has various benefits in it where you only need to be able to use 4 buttons semi correctly, you would use the controller) you may just want to use a controller instead (there are plenty of good games that require a lot and also very little muscle memory, but also plenty that are somewhere in between). Then there's also the situation where you may want dual analogs, yes this could be done with dual mice, but I could see it being very tricky since you would a toggle button of some kind to start or stop walking.
I will address the comment about fighters though. I'd say the best fighter out right now is Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. I didn't know Street FighterxTekken was gona be released for PC, but since I'm either gona be playing with a controller or Fight Stick with that game most likely (my fight stick does work for the PC though and I think I could get my PS3 controller to work for it (I do also have an adapter for my PS2 controllers)), and the community will probably be bigger on the PS3, I'm just gona keep my order for the PS3 (I suppose if I really need to I can buy it for both platforms though, but I probably won't since Gunz 2 (or still even Gunz 1) is gona fill my high reaction/ button pushing void for the PC (yeah it won't fill it perfectly, but between everything I think I'll still get what I really need). Also, because of Gems, Street FighterxTekken won't completely take out Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom, and Street Fighter 4 obviously doesn't either because it's a completely different type of game that doesn't irrelevant Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom.
If they're starting to release the quality fighters on PC I may never wind up using my fight stick though. I bought it since it's like a reverse keyboard and mouse and I can practice those kinds of movements with my opposite hands on more of a variety of quality games that they're designed for. Since there are left handed keyboards though and I can just switch my ambidextrous mouse to the opposite side (though with fighters you'd probably use all keyboard), along with the fact I'm still gona want to keep up my controller skills (which would probably be done on whatever quality fighter doesn't get released for PC) it creates extremely limited scenarios where I'll actually want to use the stick. Where the community is will be the major deciding factor, since both in game and in real life there would be very rare scenarios where you'd want to use controls similar to a fight stick, and if it's in real life, they also probably won't be layed out anything like a fight stick and you may only be talking about the stick part.
Also, if you're counting older fighters, there are far more worthwhile fighters on consoles then PC.
That was pretty long and took a decent amount of thought (mainly remembering various things I thought of before, but there's a few new things I found out while writing this), hopefully I covered everything.
FF X was more then likely the last of the golden age of JRPGs, but there have been some good ones since then. My favorite of this gen would be FF IV The After Years.
1. TP 2. Galaxy 1 (Galaxy 2 is somewhere in my top 15, but it can't touch this game) 3. RE Umbrella Chronicals 4. FF IV The After Years 5. Brawl (it's unplayable today, but the time I did spend online is almost invaluable)
6. Golden Eye Wii 7. Wii Sports Resort 8. Mario Kart Wii 9. Red Steel (all it needed was online and possible a couple extra levels in multiplayer, so much untapped potential with this game (and they technically messed up twice), but still for what it was I think I still need to include it). 10. Wii Fit Plus
I'm still playing SS, but it will probably be pretty high up on the list.
The Mana Sword posted... In the last 3 years or so though, $100 for new good rares has become the standard.
This isn't true at all. The only card that's ever hit that price while still being in Standard is Jace. Even other cards that come out at high prices never stay up there, and generally settle back down in the $30 or so area (the new Liliana for instance). I mean, there's probably less than 50 cards in all of Magic that have a $100 or more price tag.
Not that $30 for a card isn't a lot, because it is, but it's a far cry from a "$100 standard for new rares".
There were a few more that did start up fairly high though (as you mentioned), and even if you count foils, you still weren't seeing prices anywhere near these new sets before, and its not like wages have gone up at all to compensate for this.
Neosadus posted... If you're playing casually then just print them out and use protectors or whatever to give the cards some backing/stability. Is what me and my friends did when playing.
I enjoyed the Ice Age, Mirage, and Ravnica blocks.
That's not too bad if you don't always have to do it, it's still a time and ink eater, on top of the fact that you can't play in official tournaments. There's also at least one program for the computer that seems like its pretty good that allows you to play online and it's free (I know some general ino on it but haven't tried it yet), but you run into the tournament problem because there are official ones online on the official website.
Tehmoosey1 posted... Urza's Saga was the only set so bad that the entire design team was called up to the office and yelled at for it. No other set has that claim to fame.
Wow really, I had a lot of fun with Urza's, I'm not sure if I'd call it the best set, but I don't think it was so bad that they had to yell at the design team.
BTW, I played the most from around Urza's Saga-Lorwyn, and started playing a fair amount online from around Champions of Kamigawa-Future Sight, Lorwyn was played mostly IRL. Since then my play has been very scattered.
The problem with magic now is that your new good rares cost around $100 a piece. Throughout the entire history of magic you only had like 10-15 cards ever reach that kind of price or greater, along with anything new that was good always ony being worth between $20-$30. In the last 2-4 years though, $100 for new good rares has become the standard. Then with the vast expansion of the Internet over the last 6 years or so you also have the option to play magic online (magic online was around, but because of that you should get more opponents, and there's also the fact that many people have come to trust the Internet more over that time and consider it a very viable option because of that), and you can't easily take your cards from the virtual to the physical (and there's no option for physical to virtual), so you either have to chose which one you're gona do or split your resources, and virtual magic cards aren't any cheaper then physical ones.
Monster is also really good but is completely different from the other stuff you've mentioned. It's a mystery/thriller as opposed to an action/comedy.
I haven't seen it, but that's somewhat in the realm of what he posted in his first post. Though only based off of trailers, I can't really safely recommend it.
After Durarara, if nothing else really comes out by then, out of the ones you said you were interested in that I have decent information on (I've actually seen them all too), I'd watch Cowboy Bebop, FLCL (it's only 6 episodes), then Trigun. Samurai Champloo is alright, I could take it or leave it. There's more good stuff too that people haven't mentioned yet, and though most is better then Trigun, it's all around Cowboy Bebop/FLCL level, which is slightly below, with a select few being about equal, Death Note level (FLCL has a lot of deep things in it, but don't be surprised if you don't like it. It's only 6 episodes though like I said, so it won't eat up much of your time), so I'm not gona bother postin them.
Now that sounds promising, if it's really that good then I surely will watch it.
Trust me it is, I'm someone who didn't think Code Geass could be topped. The only thing that I would possible put besides Durarara on the same level as Code Geass is DBZ, but it's for completely different reasons, such as an anime that combines many interesting things into one anime. As far as the stuff you posted, just for some more general info, I'd rank them(didn't watch Galactic Heroes though)...
edit*=Brotherhood's ending does fit a little better with the story though, but it's not as interesting as FMAs ending, along with the rest of Brotherhood not being as good as FMA in general.
I'm only about 15 episodes in, and it doesn't really seem like it at first, but it starts to push Code Geass level, being at least just about equal to it, with a good chance of being better. I'll wait till the end to say exactly where it stands though.
this is pretty interesting (btw the guy says he meant it to be dubstep and brostep is only part of the title)
umm, and Skillrex's techno/trance part is alright... but when you hear the wub part it just dropped from like... 7/10 to 0/10
the wub part does fit the title though, and the rest of the song is alrite(some, but not all, of the singing parts are iffy though, since they're not too often and also somewhat fit the title it doesn't really take away from it) so I don't know if i'd drop it that far.
