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| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/22/12 8:57:00 AM #173 |
And the fact that he's changed his story five times isn't enough for you?
Only once. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Sceptile's 4e D&D Topic Round 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 9:16:00 PM #5 |
Sorcerers are cool, I can say with confidence born from experience.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:57:00 PM #128 |
Man, if Spiral did all these things he had quite a busy night. Crawling through vents, stealing guns, leaving taunting messages, incinerating lions...
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:55:00 PM #125 |
Got reminded of something.
The time I finished breaking the lights was the same as the time that JC and Regaro entered the room, according to my update. If I had murdered SSBM beforehand, it would have been pretty strange; I'd have had to stop in the middle to kill him while the murder was entirely visible, and then go back to breaking the lights after all. If I had done it while JC or Regaro were present, I risked SSBM crying out in the remaining time. If I had done it after JC or Regaro left, there simply wasn't enough time since the lion was already coming for me then. Therefore the idea of a premeditated murder is not possible. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:51:00 PM #116 | From: KamikazePotato | #114 Apparently not much, especially since when I was breaking the lights I only got cursory information about what was going on. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:49:00 PM #111 |
They incinerated the lion?
Wouldn't it be quite difficult to move the body? -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:13:00 PM #95 |
The theory of shooting from the vent is really unlikely. In the first place, I'm afraid you've missed quite a serious problem with it; when was SSBM shot? Surely it wasn't after I'd already taken out the lights. But would I really not notice anything before then? And if he was wounded and got shot, he'd just lie in the corner and bleed out without alerting me or anything?
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 8:09:00 PM #93 |
You have a motive to lie, Scept'. If you admit to axing SSBM before the lion got there, that means you're admitting to murder. If you lie and say that SSBM only had light injuries, you're only admitting to an accidental killing, which means you could worm your way out of this.
That's not a very good motive. Don't be like 'oh Regaro wouldn't lie because those reasons make no sense' but then you assume that I killed SSBM with an axe that everyone knew I had, my obvious means of hiding the body left in my room, and no knowledge of the lion going after the wounded or whatever. So you, what, spent 47 minutes in the storage room to hide your axe? Really? Evidently. Do you have an alternative theory? I'll be glad to shoot it down. As for messing around with the crime scene... "Oh crud, a body! Hey, I know what to do! I'll drag this body under the table, then back into the open in a different place because, well... yeah! Sounds great!" Nevertheless, other than the lion doing it which you dismissed, no other explanation exists as the body was not touched by me after I killed it. I engaged in no method of hiding the crime other than hiding the axe and lying about my activities a little. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:56:00 PM #85 | From: Dark_Spiral | #084 It would be, except a) I never thought a no culprit result was possible and b) even if I lived through the trial I'd refuse to accept graduation. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:53:00 PM #83 |
If Reg doesn't have any motive to lie, that means he's not lying. And if he's not, that means SSBM had medium to severe injuries before it even came in.
Nevertheless, he wasn't. You must realize I also lack motive to lie, since I had given up in the very first place. a) The fact that the first thing you did after killing SSBM was to hide the axe in the storage room and not say anything. You also spent an hour out there (SSBM supposedly died at 23:33, you got back to your room at 00:27) for no other reason but to cover your tracks. The time discrepancy is meaningless; the only thing I did was hide the axe. b) The fact that a body was dragged under a table. Why would a lion drag a body under a table? It's a ******* lion. It's got a fresh body right there in front of it, and it's hungry. There's nobody else in the room. Why would it randomly decide to drag the body under the table, in such a position where it can't eat? Plus the fact that the body was found in the open... so what, the lion dragged the body under the table, ate it, and then returned it back into the open? The hell? The body being moved was meaningless; you think I want to go snatch the lion's food away? I wonder if it was not altered after the fact, though; there was certainly plenty of time for someone to mess with the crime scene. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:50:00 PM #80 | From: Silverliner182V | #076 Nah, unnecessary spoilers. If SSBM's role didn't get revealed, I don't want to reveal mine either. Save it for the postgame. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:50:00 PM #78 |
Anyway, I apologize for throwing a hissy fit about this, it's not really a productive way of going about it. I am disappointed that I have to bow out of a game I was looking forward to in such a lame way, without being able to put into practice any of my ideas and plans, and that's why I think it can't have been the best way of going about it.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:47:00 PM #75 | From: Silverliner182V | #074 That would be quite a strange thing to do were it a thing I had considered during that murder I didn't plan. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Magic Sealed Tournament Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:45:00 PM #51 |
hargh
You aren't helping by doing that. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:43:00 PM #73 | From: Silverliner182V | #070 You're assuming that my intent in voting was to vote for the correct person and not for the nincompoop whose useless role got two people killed. By the way, are you aware that this is a game where you're encouraged to kill people without being culpable for it? You win when you're one of the last alive, so you benefit from methods of death that you aren't technically responsible for, like executions of the innocent even if there was actually no culprit, or other people being executed for having too many strikes, or your lion running rampant, or other 'accidental deaths'. Keep that in mind for the future. From: Justin_Crossing | #071 I agree. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:26:00 PM #69 | From: Solfadore | #065 That's what happened. It's irrelevant to argue otherwise, so I do not intend to do so. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:12:00 PM #58 | From: Justin_Crossing | #055 ... Isn't it obvious? Your orientation's off like I said. He ran past me and in between the lion and me. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:09:00 PM #54 | From: Justin_Crossing | #052 The part about the wound severity? Impossible. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:08:00 PM #51 | From: Justin_Crossing | #048 ? I think your orientation's off. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:07:00 PM #50 | From: Justin_Crossing | #047 The only wound SSBM suffered within my knowledge was light wounds from the light. I witnessed him suffering no wounds. You are unable to confirm that Reg is telling the truth about that particular fact. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:04:00 PM #46 |
No surprise I was lying to defend myself. I don't know what you'd expect. This game encourages people not to go for the no culprit option anyway, so by me putting the game between 'Scep' and 'no culprit' I'm sealing my own fate anyway.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 7:02:00 PM #42 |
All events took place as I described them in this topic. SSBM was killed by me at the same time the lion attacked him as a result of events of his own choosing. He was killed as an accidental outcome of my self-defense. No murder took place. I did not act deliberately to cause SSBM to be attacked either.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:58:00 PM #39 |
No, I'm not, your evidence just sucks.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:56:00 PM #36 |
Presumably meaningless as I said.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:52:00 PM #34 | From: shadosneko | #032 KP did it like a moron as stated. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:52:00 PM #33 | From: Dark_Spiral | #030 It's impossible to deny that the event took place as I described. The only question of relevance is whether the fact that it was accidental is worthy of culprithood. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:51:00 PM #31 | From: shadosneko | #028 Futile, and I dislike defending positions that were stacked against me. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:50:00 PM #29 | From: Justin_Crossing | #026 I know for a fact he knew he was running towards the lion. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:49:00 PM #27 | From: Dark_Spiral | #025 That's not really relevant, is it? My version of events is the only sane one anyway. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:47:00 PM #24 | From: shadosneko | #020 I already did, though SSBM's even worse here. Reg and SSBM, duo of lucky imbeciles. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:47:00 PM #23 | From: Justin_Crossing | #018 It specifically lunged at me, according to the update. From: Dark_Spiral | #019 Sure. Your point? -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:44:00 PM #17 | From: shadosneko | #012 I knew I would be considered a culprit, obviously. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:44:00 PM #16 | From: shadosneko | #006 Self-defense. There wasn't any flailing involved. 'accidental' deaths are pretty common in serial crime dramas and even some murder mysteries. it's not that huge of a deal. there was a pretty chaotic situation last night what with the lion getting set loose and you destroying everything with your axe FOR NO REASON, not to mention everything was set on fire afterwards. for someone to have been taken out amidst all the chaos seems pretty standard to me. That's not my complaint. I agree that accidental deaths are fine to have. But they're kind of asstastic for the person playing them. After all, SSBM literally ran into my axe. How am I a culprit? In a murder mystery, the solution to an accidental death is that no culprit exists. This is just dumb. It's making a game about manipulations and setting up a mystery, but I'm forcefully put in a position where manipulations are not possible. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game Topic 3 - In which we must all be Lionhearted. |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:36:00 PM #2 |
care to explain to me why SSBM was wounded enough for my lion to consider him prey as soon as we showed up, then? My lion sensed the target as soon as we showed up, so arguments about "I attacked him to get the lion off my back" don't hold up.
Light injuries from the glass or you're a liar. And in either case I'm pretty sure that would make you the murderer anyways Yeah, which displeases me. Fix this for the non-test game IMO. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:36:00 PM #475 |
care to explain to me why SSBM was wounded enough for my lion to consider him prey as soon as we showed up, then? My lion sensed the target as soon as we showed up, so arguments about "I attacked him to get the lion off my back" don't hold up.
Light injuries from the glass or you're a liar. And in either case I'm pretty sure that would make you the murderer anyways Yeah, which displeases me. Fix this for the non-test game IMO. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:33:00 PM #471 | From: Justin_Crossing | #468 Not according to my update. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:32:00 PM #470 | From: _Regaro_ | #469 Lol, this guy thinks that's proof. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:30:00 PM #466 | From: Silverliner182V | #462 I'd already broken them at that point. The swinging wildly was at the lion. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:30:00 PM #464 | From: _Regaro_ | #457 Obvious injuries? According to my update, SSBM was slightly hurt by the broken lights, but that's it. I doubt that qualifies. You're still making this stuff about your lion up. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:28:00 PM #456 | From: Dark_Spiral | #453 I've already made clear that I don't expect them to. However, this isn't really the province of Dangan Ronpa anymore. These tricking people into committing murder is stupid. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:26:00 PM #451 | From: _Regaro_ | #446 No murder took place, so I cannot be the culprit for it. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:25:00 PM #447 | From: Justin_Crossing | #442 The latter, obviously. That's what I've been saying; he died as a result of me attempting to defend myself from the lion. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:24:00 PM #444 | From: _Regaro_ | #439 Your lion was more responsible for the murder than me. And you indirectly due to negligence. ##Vote: Regaro To the extent that a culprit exists, it's you due to willful negligence. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:22:00 PM #437 | From: _Regaro_ | #430 You are a poor liar. If I did that, then I wouldn't have any means of covering up the murder again. Your claim about your lion has been obviously falsified so people won't kill it. From: Justin_Crossing | #432 I smashed him in the back with the axe blade. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:19:00 PM #429 | From: KCF0107 | #426 It's impossible to prove directly, but I doubt an axe to the back could be considered anything other than a killing blow itself. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:19:00 PM #427 | From: Justin_Crossing | #425 No. The lion was probably actually attacking him anyway. And I'm pretty sure I killed him instantly. From: saveus_Maria | #424 Feel free. By all rights you will be doing so incorrectly, but I cannot say that you'll be considered wrong anyway. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:16:00 PM #423 |
Effectively, you have been asked who is responsible in the case of someone running in front of a car. Is it the person who put themselves into an obviously fatal situation? Is it the driver? Either way, it cannot be the car itself.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:15:00 PM #421 | From: Justin_Crossing | #412 Yes. However, the culprit is not me; strictly, it's either the lion or SSBM himself who is responsible. Therefore there was no culprit and that is your proper vote. A game where someone can become a culprit for accidental death is quite a poorly thought out one, in my opinion, so obviously that cannot be the case. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 6:03:00 PM #409 |
He was clutching his lens protectively because he was scared of the lion. Then Scep comes up and chops him down from behind and runs. No other possibility exists. He WAS hit by a separate object from the lion from a different angle, I have bullet evidence that proves it. It was a large object that was 'possibly sharp' and the axe is the only object we couldn't sufficiently test for blood.
True. However, you haven't proved I committed murder yet. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
| Topic | Dangan Ronpa Game - Topic 2 |
| Sceptilesolarbeam 02/21/12 5:44:00 PM #380 |
You are not correct in that matter, for the simple reason that there simply was not time to do something like that.
-- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick |
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