Lurker > red sox 777

Some credits:

LMS- I know everyone thinks his posts are pointless, but he did inspire my 4-way votal-stats inadvertently.

MWC- One of the most entertaining posters here, despite his hatred of Boston and its sports teams. I'm glad he doesn't want me dead just for being from New England.

NGamer- Runs a lot of our most important contest projects, such as the Guru and the Show.

Leon- Possibly the backbone of discussion in these topics, always ready to discuss contest stuff.

creativename- The best contest predictor, he came up with the x-stats and advanced this topic to a new level for the statistical analysis of these contests. He also runs the contest sites, with the ever-useful poll update tracker.

Yoblazer- Also a really good predictor, but coming from a more qualitative/intuitive approach.

solarshadow- Hopefully you'll read this topic and see how far your topic has come! Half a million posts. If the average post contains 50 words, that's 25 million words, which translates to something like 80,000 pages in a typical-sized book.

EC- For fighting the good fight for Samus when everyone was against him. You've convinced me- Samus > Mario indirectly since 2008 at least, and Samus > Sephiroth next year!

Slowflake- Sheparded this topic from its infancy into the fast-moving river of discussion it became. Slowflake also more or less personified the conservative, consensus, default, opinions of the topic.

Ulti- Our Spring 2004 winner and the creator of the vast majority of stats topics. But I disagree with you on one major point: Stats > Common Sense, any day of the week.

Chichiri- Always loved a good, agressive, debate.

MWIS- I don't think MWIS actually posted very much in the stats topic, but he has the greatest ideas for board projects. The original concept of Mercenaries was absolutely brilliant, though it later got pulled into a deep morass when the simplicity of its rules were discarded.

Harrich- Fourpacks are fun- it's 3 matches for only 4 characters, and the variations aren't too complicated to consider, as they would be with larger packs.

Yesmar- Had differences of opinion with many in this topic especially Ulti, but different perspectives are good. I do like your contest opinions much more than your political ones though.

Albion- What kind of Chrono Trigger fan are you, who actively roots for Crono to lose to the likes of Yoshi? If at first Crono doesn't succeed, you're supposed to come back the next year and put all your hopes on him again. And again. And again!

Karma Hunter- I think Snake's 2006-2010 run was a huge success.

Heroic Mario- I liked the old Heroic Mario much better, the one who constantly changed his opinions and started impossibly unlikely upset trains.

Lopen- Always one of the last eliminated from the Guru. Cutting cookies is for.....well the Guru cookie is usually pretty good, but it's still a mark of character to take upsets!

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This was Nintendo vs. Square in a way we had not seen for years. No matter who you were, no matter what games you liked, no matter how long you had been here, you watched and enjoyed this match. Majora with the Power Hour lead. FFX with the strong comeback and lead build in the dead of night. FFX holding during the early day hours. Majora with the HUGE After School Vote comeback, at least partially bolstered by Zelda fan rallying (almost assuredly). Almost a decade after establishing themselves as rivals, this was Nintendo and Square in their purest forms. In the end, Majora’s Mask won the day, but I get the feeling both sides were in allied agreement on one thing: Brawl had to die.

A beautiful match, classic Nintendo vs. Square indeed. And death to Brawl, as it should be.

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I hope people really aren't this stupid. Or I hope you're being facetious because Squall clearly wins that contest if people vote that way.

How is that stupid? If the title of the contest is, "Most Attractive Character," it's logical to vote for the objectively most attractive character. Or course something like appearance isn't really objective, but it is in the sense that you can approach it from the angle of a typical person, rather than your individual angle. And I mean, it's beneath most people's dignity to vote for video game characters based on their personal attraction to them- as that requires them to be attracted to video game characters in the first place.

I do think Squall would do very well in such a contest.

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Wow! Pure SFF matches are rarely, if ever, so good as this. B8 debated this match a lot, and when crunch time came, we were rewarded to a 50/50 affair, obviously the result of an EXTREMELY split fanbase. There is clearly no OoT or FFVII when it comes to Kingdom Hearts. The more recent game rode the ASV to a close and satisfying win.

Unforunately it led to Ulti doing a complete 180 degree turn on Melee/Brawl. It went from "lol Wii Melee is going to 60-40 Brawl" to "I concede, Brawl will win."

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My prediction for the Noble Nine for such a contest:

1. Link
2. Cloud
3. Samus
4. Sephiroth
5. Snake
6. Tifa
7. Crono
8. Squall
9. Megaman

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Zelda would not win. Tifa would defeat her easily. Link, however, would win. "Most attractive character contest" doesn't mean "vote for the character you're most attracted to." Most people would probably use the standard, "most attractive to a typical member of the other sex," in which case, yes, Link will win.

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GameFAQs is viewed by the rest of the internet the same way current society views anime and DnD nerds. This site's reputation is already trash, who cares.

But I disagree with this at any rate. Most people don't know Gamefaqs exists, just as with most websites, and of those who know about it, most people don't really care one way or the other that it does exist. Perhaps they'll use it once in a while to get help for a game. The people who actually care about the site are......no surprise, its users.

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The site does have a reputation of being a serious site that's somewhat stuck in the 90s. Which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

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Kingdom Hearts 2

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World of Goo (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Metroid Prime (Metroid Eater Conference)
Suikoden V (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
#20 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Zelda Overload Conference)
F-Zero GX (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Mega Man 2 (Zelda Overload Conference)
Mario Kart 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Fire Emblem 7 (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
Shadow Hearts (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Games of the Decades Conference)
#15 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Nintendo Objections Conference)
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Games of the Decades Conference)

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Man, a 1v1 games contest with no divisions by generation could be so amazing.

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Zelda 1 wouldn't have leeched LTTP enough for SMW to win in all probability. LTTP would have hammered it with SFF down to like 5%.

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I think you may have to stop using that analogy after next year. Looks like the Tea Party has torn a bigger rift through the Republican party than many anticipated. I feel many of them won't be falling in line if Romney wins the nomination.

I have faith in the good old Republican Party. The Tea Partiers may drag their feet and scream in protest against nominee Romney, but when it comes down to election day, are they going to vote for Obama instead? Or, will they sit at home and let Obama win? No, however much they make think Romney is not conservative enough for them, they hate Obama even more.

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I doubt that. FFVII was something like a 4:1 favorite over OOT in the Guru. Plenty of people had FFX getting to the final too. It would probably have been closer with a 1v1, but FFVII would have been the Guru favorite.

Also, people who thought LTTP would stand up to OOT- maybe it would in a normal match, where OOT doesn't need it, but in a finals match where it's up against FFVII- you bet those Nintendo fans are going to fall in line. Aw yeah Republicans, I mean, Nintendo fans.

It only took OOT and SSBM being in the same poll for FFX to beat RBY. It crushed it with the incredibly large victory margin of 53-47.

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#6 Super Mario World (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)
#7 Super Smash Bros. Melee (Fanservice Conference)

Leonhart, what is this? I can't vote for either of these games, but I have to anti-vote both of them. This puts me in an impossible situation, so........my vote is for MVP Baseball 2005.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Nintendo Objections Conference)
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal (Games of the Decades Conference)
SoulCalibur II (Games of the Decades Conference)
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
flower (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Kingdom Hearts II (Fanservice Conference)
#14 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)
Pokemon Black/White (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)

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Zelda actually felt vulnerable up until that match. Before that, the tally was Zelda 6, FFVII 3, L-Block 1. More importantly, Zelda had never won a games contest before, and FFVII was the defending champion and Guru favorite by a large margin. Even our hero Link had just been led by Snake for 6 hours in the previous contest, and actually beaten by L-Block in the contest before that.

FFVII/OOT 2009 was where Link finally ground his iron boots into the faces of Square fans and announced that he was never losing to Square again.

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"It's Freaking Mario" didn't stop him from losing to Crono, or to Sephiroth 3 times, or to being held under 40% by Link 8 times. And it won't save him from losing to Snake.

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*reads through the CT/SM64/FFVII/GE topics*

This is so painful........we need a rematch, ASAP, to right this wrong.

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The story of BGE2 is 2 things for me:

1. The pain of CT losing to SM64
2. OOT defeating FFVII and definitively establishing Zelda as utterly supreme on this site.

When I think about it a bit more, I also get:

3. RBY's run through the contest to propel it to possibly the #3 spot.
4. The Zelda/Mario/Mario/Mario match. It feels good to be right when everyone thinks you're just being ridiculous in believing that an NES Zelda game can come back from 1400 down in a 4-way with the day vote against an NES Mario game.

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The really amazing thing about supernovas is that they can be as bright as an entire galaxy. 1 star exploding can be as bright as 1 trillion stars. Amazing.

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Link's Awakening was the only Nintendo game in that match, and after seeing how well Majora's Mask did last year you have to believe that getting 56% on "just a Zelda game" isn't nearly as bad. We also now know that Zelda and MMX don't have as much overlap as we initially thought since Link didn't do much SFF damage to MMX, and it IS rather likely that FFVI shares more of a fanbase with MMX than it does with LA (coincidentally, both FF and MMX jumped ship to the PlayStation from Nintendo consoles in the mid-'90s, which helps the cause of this theory). Of course, that doesn't necessarily explain what happened afterwards...maybe Sonic games don't overlap as much with Legend of Zelda compared to Sonic characters?

No, there's no good argument that FFVI was the game that suffered LFF in that match. There really doesn't need to have been much LFF at all.

Question for thought: Do you think Final Fantasy VI could lose to Shadow of the Colossus?

No.

Anyways, FFVI did look pretty bad last contest- it got 45% on LTTP with 2 other Nintendo games in there. Typical 3-way SFF damage would put FFVI at 38-40% on LTTP in a fair match. I do think quite a bit of LTTP's strength, so it's not so so horrible, but FFVI is probably worth 45% or less on FFX.

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SM64 should be the clear favorite over SMW and SMB3. I'm with Yoblazer in that I agree Brawl has very little shot at any of those Mario games, but Melee does have a chance. I'd probably pick Melee over SMB3 and SMW actually (if I'm going to lose, I'd like to be on the side that's coming back with the ASV this time). SM64 is a clear favorite over Melee too, but it's got an outside chance.

This may be somewhat controversial, but I really think Brawl-hype Melee was the clear #3 at the time, and would have easily handled LTTP or RBY. And if it had somehow found itself in a final with FFVII, could have led for a good amount of time (30 minutes perhaps) en route to finishing with 45%.

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Oh wow, I didn't realize Part 999 was so close to closing. I'll have to catch up on this Part 1000 later!

I hadn't played Chrono Trigger yet in 2003 and voted for Mario, which I'll regret for a very long time. I got up at 4 AM to vote before getting on a cross-country flight, and Crono was winning at the time, but unfortunately I missed the rest of the match.

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Hurray for Chrono Trigger, I keep going into these matches nervous that it will lose, but it keeps delivering 60-40 throttlings instead.

I also support Melee for #2. I'll probably keep SM64 at #3 over RBY as it will have lost to the top 2 games on my ballot, whereas RBY lost to SMW big.

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I'm probably going to keep Mario 64 where I have it at #3. RE4 needs to be tested against a top 10 game.

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Honestly, I think the rule against posting or discussing results is stupid. It's more exciting to be able to discuss the match at all hours rather than only once a day.

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Looking great!

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#1 Chrono Trigger (Smash Trigger Conference)
Mega Man X (Fanservice Conference)
Fallout 3 (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)
Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Civilization IV (Sonic Overload Conference)
Final Fantasy Tactics (Sonic Overload Conference)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Jet Force Gemini (Smash Trigger Conference)
Mega Man 3 (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Dark Cloud 2 (Smash Trigger Conference)
Mother 3 (Sonic Overload Conference)
#5 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (Nintendo Objections Conference)
#8 Super Mario Galaxy (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)

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A stock is never too high to buy, or too low to sell.

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--Changing your vote is fine, but please do not edit/delete your posts. Simply make a new post detailing what you would like to change.

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Change: Put Portal at #21 and move everything below that down 1.

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No avatars please, I want my 90s-style boards. That was a better decade anyway.

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Well, I currrently have SSBM ahead of SM64 (though I notice most people don't). But if SM64 beats CT, obviously it would move ahead of SSBM. So, a loss to SSBM would be worse, if it were by the same margin, although that's somewhat offset by CT/SM64 being a direct matchup and more recent a match. SM64 also has wins over SMB3 and SMW, whereas CT has wins over SMB3 and LTTP, but CT's wins were by much larger margins. So I guess the losses side would be a push, but CT would still be ahead on the wins side.

So, I'll probably still vote CT #1 unless it loses by a substantial margin (say, 4 votes).

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If CT loses this week in a close match, I might still vote it #1. Which is worse, a loss to Mario 64 or a loss to SSBM?

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1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
3. Super Mario 64
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Mario Bros. 3
8. Super Mario Galaxy
9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
10. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Final Fantasy X
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
15. Final Fantasy VI
16. Super Mario Galaxy 2
17. Final Fantasy IX
18. Paper Mario
19. Super Metroid
20. Final Fantasy VII
21. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
22. Mario Kart 64
23. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
24. Star Fox 64
25. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

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it's obvious now that Chrono Trigger is the strongest game

You said that and voted otherwise, which crosses the line into blatant contradiction. Up until now your votes have been justifiable, using torturous twists of logic, but this is now a clear contradiction. The sole criterion for these rankings is strength. And you just said CT is the strongest game.

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Oh LMS......people are not always on this board. It was only 3 hours.

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Darn it, would have been just in time if my Gamefaqs time wasn't still on Eastern time instead of Pacific like I thought.

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Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)
#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)
Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)
Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Mega Man 9 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)
Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference)

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First thought: Financial aid offices change your aid based on what your major is?

Second thought: That actually makes sense, and there would be a good reason why they give less aid to math/science majors- because your job prospects are better coming out with those, so you "need" less aid.

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Maybe because it's a big research university, I guess. Some people like Smuffin have an axe to grind with prestigious universities, which employ top researchers for whom teaching is not the top priority.

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Why wouldn't USC have good faculty?

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You can try talking to the professors about your situation......usually they'll be pretty open to accomodating you if there's a real need for it.

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I hope not. While you can take notes faster with a laptop, it's a very small improvement to learning (you don't need to and should not copy down every word being said) and I seriously doubt most high school kids will be able to resist the temptation to use the internet during class.

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Haven't heard of a concrete department policy banning them before, but they were rarely used in my undergrad school, and some professors banned them. Just started law school, and so far around 2/3 of our class is using laptops to take notes.

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I think even leftists would agree that bureaucracy sucks. Only government employees would think otherwise.

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There's a maximum amount of economic and social inequity that can happen before social strife kicks in. How far do you think that envelope has been pushed

It can be pushed much, much, farther. Sparta was functional and orderly with 90% helots. Social strife happens much more when the oppressed has the power to resist, which is usually when they were not that badly oppressed in the first place. In America, it's happened twice in a major way, the American Revolution and the Civil War. In both cases, the rebels were not badly oppressed prior to the rebellion, so they had the ability to fight such a war.

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