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"Th, this tale is filled with malicious lies!! The tale itself has become a trap to capture Natsuhi! The tales hould be constructed only from impartial truths!!"
- You're useless Battler. You're always useless.
"Knox's 9th. It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and interpretations be heard!"
"I was the culprit, so maybe I gave George-aniki and the others a slow-acting poison to make them die after 24:00, then silently slit their throats when I returned at 3:00 AM!! I could have done it so quietly that Erika wouldn't hear...!!"
- Samurai Pizza Cats!
"Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED!!"
"Everyone committed suicide...!! So there is no culprit!!"
- The more you use stupid blue truths and I have to keep typing them out, the worse you get Battler.
- Whoa, hey there Cornelia! Good seeing a new face!


"All deaths were homicides."
"Erika didn't personally examine the corpses, right?! It should be possible for people who aren't the detective to make a mistake when examining the corpses!!"
"No examination of the corpses could have been mistaken"
- Because they had giant knife holes in their throats! Woo. You're becoming worse than Gaap, Battler.
"Then maybe they were body double corpses!! They prepared corpses beforehand that closely resembled the victims...!!"
- Really?
"No corpses exist except for those of characters who have appeared in the story"
"Th, then why can you claim that Krauss oji-san is dead without his corpse?!! Doesn't that violate Knox's somethingth or whatever?!!"
- That's... actually something I'd like to know.
"The red truth is simply truth, and there is no need to provide evidence or proof"
- Which is why the seals are all irrelevant. The red truth is the only thing that matters.
- No, Battler, the way you're going about things is completely meaningless.
- No, Battler, their red truth is not getting more and more perfect. Your blue truths, aside from questioning Krauss's death, are getting worse and worse.
- One last thing? Is it Virgilia's red?
- Do it, Dlanorpella!
- This is the END for you, Battler Buu!

"Ushiromiya Natsuhi is not the culprit!!!"
- TAKE THAT!

"Knox's 2nd. It is forbidden for supernatural agancies to be employed as a detective technique."
- XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
- Welp, that's the game. GG. You're terrible, Battler.

"The trial is now FINISHED. FINISHED!FINISHED!FINISHED!FINISHED!FINISHED!
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<Die The death>!
<Sentence to death>! <Great equalizer is The Death>!!"

"Natsuhi oba-san was being threatened by someone!! The uninvited, unknown guesy X is the true culprit!! How can you be sure that we are the only ones on this island?! The true culprit is someone else!"
- Bwah ha ha ha.
"Knox's 1st. It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the STORY!!"
- But... hasn't mystery person X been around since the early part of the story? Since before Day 1 anyway? Before Day 1 = early part of story IMO.
"Maybe they were killed with poison in a remote murder!! Umm, ......with a strange drug that can make a cut appear in someone's neck when they die...!! That type of murder has a delayed effect, so even with an alibi-"
- I love that he tacked on the explanation about the poison causing a knife wound in the nec because I was just about to ridicule him for that.
"Knox's 4th. It is forbidden for unknown drugs or hard to understand scientific devices to be USED!!"
- Dlanor looks so bored right now.
"There's a chance that there existed a murder device X in the cousins' room and Genji-san's waiting room that made a remote murder possible...!! It had some secret mechanism that still hasn't been discovered and-"
- Is he just going to run through ALL the Knox's?
- Love the, "Are you serious?" face. <3 Dlanor. So embarrassed for Battler right now.
"Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED!!"
"Anyway, there exists a culprit other than Natsuhi oba-san!! If you want to deny that, try and repeat that 'none of the characters shown were the culprit'!!"
- Oh my god Battler, you are such a moron. First off, you should have learned by now that goading witches into revealing the real truth with red doesn't work when you outright tell them, "Go ahead do it!! Betcha can't! Betcha can't!" and then they don't and you look completely stupid. Second, they can't repeat that anyway because NATSUHI IS ONE OF THOSE CHARACTERS! ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? You're supposed to be this big-time character playing the biggest witch's battle ever and all you give are these half-baked arguments that wouldn't do jack**** even if this were the beginning of the second game!!! "Hi my name is Battler and I like putting bombs in food and blah-dee-blah-dee-blah-DEE-BLAH!!!" ARRRRRRRRRGHHH!!!!
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Our next Red Truth comes from
"Knox's 6th. It is forbidden for accident or intuition to be employed as a detective TECHNIQUE!!"
- Nice handling =D
"You say that everone except Natsuhi oba-san has an alibi?! You're forgetting one person!! Who's gonna prove that Erika herself has an alibi?!!"
- The detective cannot be the culprit.
"Knox's 7th. It is forbidden for the detective to be the CULPRIT!!"
"Unless she's caught red-handed, you should never be able to deny the possibility that Natsuhi oba-san is innocent!! Can you even deny future possibilities, like a piece of evidence X that Erika hasn't discovered proves Natsuhi's innocence?!"
- Yeah that's a totally legitimate claim and not another Knox's red truth at all.
"Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED!!"

"I'll acknowledge Erika's seals...! However, Eva oba-san's seal on Genji-san's room should be different!!"
"Eva's seal was of the same type as Miss Erika's. That is because this method of sealing was one that <Miss> Erika and Eva conceived of together after DINNER."
"Erika said something about a scientific investigation and fished through the chemicals in Grandfather's toom, right?! There might have been some kind of solvent in there!! If you used that, you might be able to tear off the duct tape without leaving fingernail marks!!"
- IB Erika took out all the things from Grandfather's study that could be used to make a solvent beforehand.
"It is impossible to tear off any of the seals by any method without leaving marks."
"There were no suspicious marks on any of the seals...!"
"All of Erika and Eva's seals were not tampered with in any way that hindered their ability to act as seals, such as being scraped off."
- And I'm still not convinced that Erika's seals exist. If there are any seals, there's no confirmation that every seal she said she created exists. And this is actually all useless since the seals will not catch the real culprit, what happened between 24:00 and 1:00 in the dining room will!


- XD, time out to run home and grab the truth
- Battler promised Beatrice something else...?

"Let's assume that there exists some method X that can lead someone to the second floor of the guesthouse without passing through the lounge! Erika claims that the windows and such were sealed, but she caqn't prove that she sealed all possible means of entry. There's a possibility that Erika was unable to seal entrance X because she couldn't find it!"
- IB Knox's #th, no hidden passages shall exist.
"Knox's 3rd. It is forbidden for hidden passages to EXIST! As the detective, <Miss> Erika sealed all ENTRANCES. Passages that the detective cannot find are hidden PASSAGES. Therefore, there are no entrances that <Miss> Erika cannot find!!"
- Alright, seals exist on all entrances confirmed. The murders did not happen after 3AM.
- Wait a sec... if Rosa came in at 1AM, and Erika says no seals were broken (entering or leaving), how did Rosa die. Natsuhi couldn't have come in, killed her, and left after 1AM and that's the only time she could have died...
"I present the possibility that Erika's lookout in the lounge wasn't perfect!! During the two hours Erika spent there, she really observed everything without looking away for a second?! It might be possible for someone to have passed through the lounge during a small gap without at least Erika seeing them!!"
- Wrong track. Erika definitely would have seen someone entering or leaving. It's far more likely she did notice, but made no mention to keep the train on Natsuhi.
"Lady Erika's lookout in the lounge was perfect. There were no small gaps or carelessness or times when she looked away for even a second."
"Therefore, during their entire meeting in the lounge, only Rosa went up to the second floor!"
"But was that really Rosa oba-san herself?! There's a possibility that someone disguised themselves as Rosa oba-san!! Or maybe she was actually holding a large suitcase with someone hiding inside it!"
- ... Okay, Battler. I think Ronove maybe put a liiiiittle too much rum in your tea.
"Knox's 10th, it is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any CLUES! There have been no hints suggesting that someone had disguised themselves as Rosa! Furthermore, Erika has confirmed that she wasn't carrying any luggage large enough to hide a human IN!"

LeonhartFour posted...
From: Mega Mana | #041
I am, however, doubting the narrator's truths absent of red text, like slips, listening to Battler breathe all night, etc. as they exist and only consider them as elaborate stories for red truths to be told.
What makes you think Erika didn't do all of that stuff? She's the detective! It's her job to make sure the investigation is perfect!

As was said earlier for Game 3/Game 4, apparently there can be an entirely different person named "Kinzo" or "Jessica" that's dead someplace else entirely while the one on Rokkenjima's still alive or wasn't dead until later/earlier than we expected them to die.
I was under the impression that this theory was pretty much denied throughout the games because every time Battler tries to argue it, the witches laugh at him and squash it.

My impression was that you guys kept telling me that was the legit truth to Nanjo's murder and I'm still like, "But that's stupid." If it really isn't, then I'm STILL CONFUSED!!!!!

Been about twenty minutes of listening and remembering Survivor Funny 115's update hiatus is over, so... the game!

"You're the cuplrit... Ushiromiya Natsuhi-san."



- Eva is Iron Fist!
- They accepted the truth and therefore it became truth. Even though in red, it isn't, but the 2nd Law prevents such a thing from mattering on the chessboard proper.
- Clap if you believe in Natsuhi!
- The who, the how, and the why. I don't remember a 'why' in Clue!! But I guess we do have the where... and there were 'whys' in the movie... phooey.
- Oh god, not the fleshy mound of goat feed...
- The teeth!
- DLANOR!!! I was totally expected Battler, but this! Better!
- New music? Sounds familiar, but different...
- Battler has an objection =D
- If Battler doesn't reach out to the truth soon, Eva will kill Natsuhi.
- "Real truth doesn't exist anywhere."
- Glory be to the great lady Bernkastel? GLORY BE TO THE SUDDEN SAMURAI PIZZA CATS FACE!
- Right! Batt... whoa, jaunty battle music. Right! Battler's noting how quickly the red truths came about because of Erika's seals.

"Just sticking paper in a door crack"
- IT'S NOT DUCT TAPE"

"Can't we doubt the reliability of these seals of Erika's?! Something like wedging paper in a door can't create a perfect alibi! It might be that someone noticed by chance and happened to put it back in the same place...!!"
- Ah, the 'Kinzo noticed the paper fall and put it back when he went missing' gambit from Game 1.
- Oh... it... is duct tape.
- ...I feel foolish...
- SPOILERS!!!! =P
- Wait... she sealed every door with tape and wrote her name everywhere... she's not only a liar, she's one of those annoying liars who one-ups their fibs every time someone confronts them.

"Due to the above, the seals are guaranteed to be PERFECT. <Miss> Erika's seals were not broken by anyone, and deception is impossible."
- Bah. This whole line will probably mean nothing, Though it can always be countered, like the letter in the hallway or Kinzo in the garden, that none of the seals were broken because there were no seals. Erika's seals would be perfect, if there were any. *shrug*

- Actually screw playing. I'm just going to sit here and listen to discolor.



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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

Now I face out, I hold out, I reach out to the truth of my life

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"And the theoretical maximum is 2880 messages, so I was only performing at 45.94% posting efficiency." - Luster Soldier

"At that time, everyone inside the dining hall definitely heard it. And none of them misinterpreted a knocking sound."
- None of them misinterpreted a knocking sound because there was no knocking sound. It is never confirmed in red that they heard a knocking sound, just a lot of negatives about what they didn't hear (a statue upstairs, a tape recording, coincidental, incidental, unintentional, or intentional) and who didn't do it. And witches don't exist. The whole hour between 12:00 and 1:00 is as much a fabrication on the part of those inside the dining hall as Natsuhi's tales about Kinzo. The red truth holds true and I do not deny it. I just finally see how the game can be rigged.


There's only one instance I can think of where I doubt the red truth and that's whatever Natsuhi said after Hideyoshi died. It's only because Natsuhi isn't a witch and it's been stated a few times throughout this chapter that humans cannot use the red truth. Natsuhi is human, so how can it be red? It's something I haven't fully taken into account yet whether it was really red truth or a false look at something that may happen later on if humans start using the red truth.

As for the red truths, we can be certain of many things. No one died before 24:00. Most people didn't go up to the second floor after they initially went to bed. Erika, Gohda, and Nanjo spent their time in the lounge from 1 to 3 and anyone who went up to the second floor could not get past without Erika noticing. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary happened after Battler went to bed at 3:00 (though I argue that the first twilight murders are an ordinary occurrence and could indeed have happened during this time; red truth holds). Not one person left the dining hall between 12 & 1, though this could mean 0 or X where X =/= 1. Rudolf and Kyrie both could've left. Eva sealed Genji and it was broken when Kanon and Kumasawa went to wake him. NONE of Erika's seals have been stated in red (though this is means nothing as Erika sealing stuff up is just to get the red truths out without any questions).

I think I've been very good at looking at the Red Truth as undeniable. What's red is red. What's white, how the words are arranged, and what's unsaid is another matter entirely. I remember no red truth declaring the the detective's words as truth. I remember these:

"I proclaim that Furudo Erika is the detective. The detective is not the culprit. No proof is needed to show this. / Furudo Erika is not the culprit. Furudo Erika had no influence on any of Beato's games before now. She does exist in the worlds before this one, nor does she influence them. Furudo Erika only increases [the population on the island] by one person. Besides her, the number of people on this island is exactly the same as it was in previous games."

"Detective's authority. ...The detective has the right to inspect all crime scenes. Stand back, Ushiromiya Battler. This is an official right of this game, which the human side has acknowledged."
- The only things to determine here are that she is not the killer, she adds a population point to the island, she may inspect the crime scenes with no objections, and she's only existed since the beginning of this episode. The characters and story may act like her word is law, but that could just be a caveat of the story. Erika's word could be law as much as Kinzo could be alive. Everyone can follow along like it's the truth, but one loose thread and it can all come undone unless cemented in red. See? I have massive respect for the red now as a tool for getting through the white.

XD, whoops.

Now to actually start playing =P

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“So we’ve cornered Andy and Kyle in the Swarts stairwell and then this guy comes out of NO WHERE like ****ing Batman or something.” ; ExTha is the man

Raka_Putra posted...
Well, Mana, it'd be great if you would take a stance regarding red truths. You've been doubting whether they tell the truth or not since they were first introduced, it's almost like beating a dead goat. I personally suggest you accept them as truths, otherwise, you'd have no foundation at all to determine what really happened and what didn't. Oh, and there's also the whole 'The main character's narration is always accurate' thing...

I'm no longer doubting the red truths. I believe I clarified that earlier. I am, however, doubting the narrator's truths absent of red text, like slips, listening to Battler breathe all night, etc. as they exist and only consider them as elaborate stories for red truths to be told. I also doubt just how manipulative the red truths can be. As was said earlier for Game 3/Game 4, apparently there can be an entirely different person named "Kinzo" or "Jessica" that's dead someplace else entirely while the one on Rokkenjima's still alive or wasn't dead until later/earlier thanw e expected them to die. The whole chapter has been filled with stories which are presented as truth, but really don't happen once you lift the veil. Natsuhi's chats with Kinzo and pretty much everything Eva was doing in Chapter 3 (like Hideyoshi was really alone in the room the entire time, not comforting a sick and distressed Eva) verify this. We take it at Erika's word that her stories are true, and they very well may be, but multiple truths can exist in this place and if and when Battler comes up with something else that takes away Erika's words, we can reach out to the truth.

This, again, is about Erika's storytelling. Whatever Bern and Lambda have said in the red truth, I take as complete truth. I have learned that is a fact and not a manipulation since the second or third game. Red truth is truth. However, within that truth, there can be many walls, detours, secondary words, and untold things. Look at the second game. I don't remember the exact truth, but the first puzzle was trying to figure out who gave Maria that letter. By using those red truths and figuring out what wasn't being said, we determined who could have handled it, when they handled it, and how the red truths set up around it while still working.

"Not a single person in the dining hall...no, there's a simpler way to say it. Among all those inside the mansion at 24:00, not a single person placed that letter in the corridor."
- "Not a single person." Not 'nobody', not 'anyone', not anything that would clearly denote no one did it. 'Not a single person' just cancels out the one. It doesn't just mean zero, it could also mean two people placed it out int he hallway, or three, or four. The red truth is still intact, but it's a different matter entirely. There's also no red truth that says the letter was even int he hallway, just many red truths about where it wasn't, like on the ceiling or the serving cart or a single person from the mansion placing it there. There may never have been a letter in the hallway, though the banter between Erika, Bern, and Lambadelta continued on in this fashion about ways the knock or letter could have happened.

"No one in the mansion placed the letter in the hallway."
- This is a part of that line where they're ruling out everybody who could have put in the hallway except for a witch. However, taken out of context, it's perfectly clear. No one did it. No one put it there. And since witches don't exist, it couldn't have been done by anyone or anything. Therefore, no one could have placed it there because it was never there ever. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Indeed it is.

And I am so relieved that discolor isn't one of the other songs played during the trial. I was pretty much rushing through some of it just to get a new song in.

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"And the theoretical maximum is 2880 messages, so I was only performing at 45.94% posting efficiency." - Luster Soldier

Shadow_Ryoko posted...
Umm I forget exactly where it plays in the whole Natsuhi bits but it's this one:

literally one of the best songs in the VN.

and I love your writeups! don't change a thing! it's good to put all your thoughts somewhere since it will help you solve it better!

Yess! That's the song I've been listening to for at least fifteen minutes now!

Too bad I closed Umineko just to confirm because they were both plaing fromt he beginning when I loaded XD XD XD. I even checked to see if Youtube was muted XD

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"And the theoretical maximum is 2880 messages, so I was only performing at 45.94% posting efficiency." - Luster Soldier

Is discolor the one playing when they get back to the parlor? Because I haven't cared to Save & Exit like I usually do when I'm taking a break.

I will when I go to play Mass Effect in a bit (yay new computer can run it!), but right now? Great music.

Also, any comments and criticisms on how I do my write-ups? I'd love to hear some feedback on what I can do to improve it. I think I'm spending way too much time with the red truths & declarative statements sometimes, but the truths are necessary to look back upon and use them to figure things out, but I don't think I'm giving as much commentary as I did before.

...But it doesn't help that nearly all the amazing portions are now filled to the brim with red truth wars *shrug*

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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

So, who is definitely not the culprit?
- Natsuhi.
- Krauss.
- Genji.
- Kinzo.

lol. That would be awesome. "But what about Kinzo's alibi?!" XD. Please let this happen soon.

Who is 99% not the culprit?
- George.
- Jessica.
- Maria.
- Rosa.

98%?
- Kumasawa.
- Nanjo.
- Gohda.
- Battler.
- Hideyoshi.

Who could be the culprit?
- Rudolf
- Kyrie
- Kanon
- Shannon
- Eva

The murders happened any time after midnight, though before Battler awoke. It is likely they occurred between 24:00 and 1:00, but perhaps also after 3:00 if "ordinary" includes the regular first twilight occurrence. It is undoubtedly someone in the lounge that did this.

Everyone in the mansion besides Natsuhi has an alibi.
- Goat teeth!!!

"Natsuhi. When did Kinzo ever say it was okay for you to engrave the One-winged Eagle into your heart? Those were just words of the Kinzo from your delusions, weren't they? ......you know, the real Kinzo... Not once in his entire life did he ever trust you from the bottom of his heart, and not once did he ever consider letting you bear the family crest!"
- She got that boom boom pow.

"The real Kinzo wouldn't say that. Disappear. You, the illusion of Kinzo inside Natsuhi's mind, beautified by Natsuhi to suit her own purposes."

"Pitiful woman. You will now face the truth that you never gained Ushiromiya Kinzo's trust as long as he lived."
- Atreyu! Nooooo!!!
- Haaaaa! "Right now, no humans exist on this island except for those int his parlor. And, with one exception, it has been shown that none of them have committed murder. And, the culprit is among these people." Cue Rudolf and Kyrie popping up first =D
- O_o Wow... and this is when Battler joins in? The game was already... over?! Hooooooly... Mind= Blown.

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I apologize for the lack of smaller updates =P

"At 1:00 AM, Eva sealed Genji's waiting room, and that seal was broken by Kanon and Kumasawa in the morning when the crime was discovered. During the short break at 1:00 AM, the first two to leave the dining hall were Rosa and Eva. Until Eva returned, everyone in the dining hall remained there. After seeing Rosa off, Eva went to the waiting room and sealed it. Of course, she did not enter the room at all at this time."
- The only seal that actually happened! =D. What else is misleading here? Hmm... Ah! The first two to leave [at 1:00 AM]. [Everyone in the dining hall] remained until Eva returned. So more than one person left the dining hall before the short break at 1:00 AM, it is unlikely that any of these people were Eva or Rosa but still possible, and if they hadn't returned to the room prior to 1:00 AM, they could have entered while Eva and Rosa were out of the room or still after.
- No don't spare us the details. Do go on =D. Can you confirm the people that were in the room when they took the short break? Hmmmmmm?
- Seriously? She's a super scientist too who did all these experiments in the early morning hours of Day 2 (because she was busy all night until Battler screamed and had maybe five-six hours of unused time until 'Checkmate'). Such a lamer.


Genji never left the mansion after 24:00.
- Hmm, would this include his body? Where is it hiding now? Not very relevant (at least yet) but a good cornerstone.

Genji has an alibi.

- Two alibis remaining, two others false. Let's see what happens next.

Was the crime also possible for Krauss who was in the mansion?

- Go go Battler! There's gotta be a different truth!
- Space bunnies on the moon. No wonder he's so messed up in arguments.
- Virgilia's single red truth is...

"Ushiromiya Natsuhi is not the culprit!"
- Hell yea, but that was obvious.
- Can't deny the truth.

Ushiromiya Krauss is not the culprit.

"Ushiromiya Krauss is not the culprit. And he was killed long ago, shortly after you heard his voice over the phone, get it?"
- And it's all over. Lambdadelta proclaims it to be so, so it must be true. Before the Objection music starts playing, let's take a look at who has been ruled out as the culprit, AFAIK:

• George, Maria, and Jessica were alive on the second floor at 24:00.
• Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa were on the second floor. Gohda and Kumasawa never went up to the second floor.
• No murder occurred before 24:00 and none of the crime didn't take place after 3:00.
• Erika, Nanjo, and Gohda were in the guesthouse lounge until 3:00 AM.
- Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary happened after 3:00 AM in Battler's room? Hmm.. but, isn't it ordinary that six murders happen before people wake up in these games? We've come to expect it. It's not ordinary int he first game or two, or anywhere else really, but it's usual happenstance on October 5th, 1986 on Rokkenjima. The murders may indeed have happened after 3:00, but this is likely stretching it.
- What if someone did climb up to the second floor of the mansion through the lounge? It doesn't say whether or not Gohda and Nanjo noticed, but Erika may have seen someone go up and hidden this bit of information to keep the attack on Natsuhi. Again, a stretch.

"For example, what if someone placed a ladder against the outer wall of the guesthouse and snuck in through the second story window?! There must be a way to reach the second floor without passing through the lounge! This way, it was possible to reach the crime scene without you seeing it...!"
- Here's where she put slips of paper in all the windows, too! Also, calling Battler or Rosa closing the window when they went to bed.

"It is impossible for someone to reach the second floor of the guesthouse without anyone in the lounge noticing it. ......Though of course, this only refers to reaching the second floor from inside the building."
- Can't let you do that, BeatoFox!
- SpiderErika.

There is no way to each the second floor without passing through the lounge.
- Same thing in red, plus Erika knowing about it.
- Wouldn't have noticed if anyone passed through between 24:00 and 1:00? A set-up.

It is only possible for the crime to have occurred between 24:00 and 1:00.
- Hmm, no red truth. Was the red truth confirmation also removed from other times that I didn't notice? Nope, not before 24:00 and not after 3:00. So 24:00 to 3:00 is still an open window.

"At 24:00, Natsuhi, Krauss, and Genji were in the corridor on the second floor of the mansion. The rest of them were in the dining hall on the first floor."
- And the knock & letter are not in red. <3
"Of all the people in the dining hall, not one of them left the dining hall until 1:00 AM...!"
- <3 <3 <3 not one of them <3 <3 <3

Excluding Natsuhi, Krauss, and Genji, none of them left the mansion until 1:00.
- These aren't red truths <3

"The red truth is simply truth, and there is no need to provide evidence, proof, or room for a counterargument!!"
- Ahhh, I remember the days when I thought it all a flasehood. I've come to accept that the red truth is always a fact. However, like Erika's slips of paper or listening to Battler breathe such manly sleeping sounds throughout the cold, rainy night, the story surrounding the red truth doesn't exist and is only there to make up a story for the red truths to be presented, and confuse everybody involved when such matters gloss over the red truth, liek the crime only occurring between 24:00 and 1:00.
- Nope. Not one of them. I can't wait for this to be pounced on later <3

Was the crime also possible for Genji, who was in the mansion?

"When Genji finished transferring the call, he imemdiately returned to the waiting room."

- Eeeeva?

The murder of Genji is also limited to between 24:00 and 1:00.

"At 24:00, Natsuhi, Krauss, and Genji were in a corridor on the second floor of the mansion. All the remaining people were at the family conference in the dining hall. Of course, at that point in time, no murder had occurred. Genji was also alive."

It is confirmed that those thought to be inside the mansion at 24:00 were indeed inside the mansion.
Addendum: It has already been shown than none of them the mansion before 1:00 (except Natsuhi).

- Beatrice possesses no truth nor red she can use. It is weird seeing her on the defensive.

Was the crime also possible for Nanjo, who was in the guesthouse?

- He was with Erika from 1:00 AM to 3:00 AM as well?

"From 1:00 AM to 3:00 AM, Erika, Nanjo, and Gohda spent their time in the lounge on the first floor of the guesthouse."
"Even so, he shouldn't have an alibi for the time period before and after you were in the lounge! It was possible for Nanjo to commit the crime too!"
"After 24:00, Erika was with Nanjo the whole time until 3:00 AM."

Nanjo has an alibi.

Erika is a sick puppy.
- Of course she would check to see if all her seals were unbroken when she heard Battler scream. No doubt she'd check to see if Battler's room was still sealed, too. Hell, I'm surprised that all the seals are intact if the servants also got up and headed out to see why Battler screamed. Were they all in their rooms still when Erika went to check to see if they were still inside? There are no slips of paper. Just a convenient story to enable red truths to come out without suspicion. She can't be like, "No, of course I don't know whether their alibis check out. Bern, can you at least just say if they were in their rooms or not with the red?"

Both your seal and your red truth are perfect. Nanjo had the alibi of being with Erika until 3:00 AM. And he didn't leave his room after 3:00 AM until morning.
- Wait, whose red truth, what?
- The red truths are indeed perfect so far. However, the events are highly doubtful. But it is nopt the time to question those. Save it until you can find a red lie.
- Stay out of this for now, Battler. Although, he's accusing himself so, XD XD. And he gets skewerd for his efforts. Must feel like a hot cup of coffee all over his face =P.

Was the crime possible for Battler, who was also in the guesthouse?

- XD, crawling into Battler's bed. That would be an excellent alibi.
- Wait, what? XD
- You have got to be kidding me! XD XD XD. ****ing Mary Sue.

It was impossible for Battler to commit the crime.

- Multiple truths can exist in this place, and the truth is that Erika is a compulsive liar =D

"Ushiromiya Battler returned to the cousins' room at 3:00 AM and fell asleep. After that, until the discovery of the crime, absolutely nothing out of the ordinary happened in the room!"

"In other words, it was impossible for Battler to commit murder or damage the corpses."

It is impossible for the crime to have occurred after 3:00.

Is it possible that someone in the mansion committed the crime between 24:00 and 3:00?

Is it possible for someone to reach the second floor of the guesthouse without passing through the lounge that Erika was in?

- First off, didn't Battler leave the meeting at 3AM? If, by looking at later bullets, the crime was likely committed in the midnight hour, wouldn't that be a strange starting point? Yes, he may have committed the murders after the meeting. My guesses: Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, usually.

The culprit is Ushiromiya Natsuhi.
Because we will prove everybody else has an alibi.

- Erika says Kumasawa and Gohda chatted and wroked before promptly going to bed. Just because she says it, doesn't make it true =P
- Alibi truth refused.
- New music!

"Gohda and Kumasawa have no alibis. The two of them were in the guesthouse and could have reached the cousins' room to commit murder at any time. Unless you can deny that possibility, you cannot treat Natsuhi as the culprit."
- A human can't use any red, huh, Gaap? Then explain Natsuhi's red in the closet!!!
- I'm with Battler. Really, Erika? Again, I think you're just creating your truths now. Or... you're Fred.

AUGH. I have a loose power cord so if even tap my computer, it can turn off. Guess what happened? At least I wasn't that far. Just a few alibis down.

Kumasawa has an alibi.
- Not a single gap? Really? Really, Bern? This is all hearsay. Just because Erika says she did it doesn't make it true.

"In other words, after Kumasawa returned to the guesthouse, she never went to the second floor until morning."
- See? Confirmed that Kumasawa has an alibi, however, no mention of the slip of paper. Like Kinzo in the garden or the letter in the hallway, the slip of paper was only in the door because we're told it's in the door. It was never there. We're just supposed to accept it as fact when it really isn't. It may not mean anything for Kumasawa, but it will be an opening when it comes to hiding the real killer.

"In other words, after Gohda returned to the guesthouse, she never went up to the second floor until morning."
- And Natsuhi was up with Kinzo until 11AM. I'm not disputing that Gohda really didn't leave the guesthouse or never went to the second floor, I just say that Bern's story has no merit. The red truths come after her stories, but there's no basis in those truths that her stories are real. Just that they had alibis.

Gohda has an alibi.
- Two down, eleven to... hold up. There's thirteen of them. Could... could this play out like the twilights? "You shall offer up as sacrifice the six chosen by the key?" Six alibis/mysteries solved, then proceed further until none shall remain?

"At 24:00 in the guesthouse, George, Jessica, and Maria were alive and in the second floor cousins' room. Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa were on the first floor."
- I could be stupid and say this could pertain to previous meeting when all six were on Rokkenjima, probably in one of the years Battler was absent, but that's way too much of a stretch. It's just another simple truth that's being propped up to hide the future fake truth. A wall of them where one will be weak.

"George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa, and Genji really are dead."

No murder occurred before 24:00.

We guarantee that George's group is dead.

- Erika's a ****ing Mary Sue. Of course she sealed Kumasawa and Gohda in their rooms, saw Rosa come in, notcied the cousins all playing at midnight, and stayed up with Gohda until 3AM. She probably checked in to see when Battler came in, noticed the meeting still going on through the window, founda scorpion charms on all doors in the guesthouse, and checked every closet and room before going to bed herself. Of course she did.

12:00 AM

- And... the game is apparently over. Well, at the endgame already. If so, this was a really short chpater, comparatively.
- OH MY GOD! THE BACKGROUND SCROLLED UPWARDS! WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
- The ceiling totally looks like an eye. Is it wrong I just want to dash into the wall to see if a giant slime eyeball drops down?
- XD, not given the right to think it's strange they jumped ahead eleven hours and teleported to some crazy devil town. I think it is very odd and something I don't take to kinddly. I shall quit this game!
- Or not.
- I wonder if there are two Battlers here =D
- Roll call!
- "I'm Rudolf. ...The rest of us are all Ushiromiya too, so I'll leave off the family name." Interesting...
- XD Maria
- THE BACKGROUND SCROLLS AGAIN! WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!
- "Ronove. I'm in charge of making black tea. Pu ku ku..." How is he so ****ing awesome?!
- Lucifer killed Hideyoshi.
- 38 people, damn. The witch side's overtaken the human side in number now. Imbalanced!
- It's not Natsuhi. You've already lost, Erika, GG. On to Episode 6!
- What if neither side wins? What if a verdict's about to be reached, "OBJECTION!!!" rings out and all the faces in the room turn to see who it was... and there's Battler with his finger outstretched ready to make a case against a third person? Hmmmmmmm? Oh. Right. I know: the game continues! Because that's the goal. For Battler to speak up and accidentally trap himself in the game for more time. It's the purpose of this episode.
- Erika claims it would be impossible to suspect anyone other than Natsuhi. She has no alibi.
- Red tuth noise for Bern's Objection, but no red truth. I'll take it =D
- Different truths can exist at the same time? oooh.

The culprit is Ushiromiya Natsuhi.
Because Natsuhi is the only one without an alibi.

- I like this.

We cannot conclude that Natsuhi was the culprit.
As long as there are other people without alibis.

The claim has been made that Natsuhi was the only one without an alibi between 24:00 and 1:00. This is being used as a basis for claiming she is the culprit.

However, as long as the following possibilities exist, it is impossible to conclude that this is the case.

• Was the crime also possible for Battler, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for Nanjo, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for Gohda, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for Kumasawa, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for Genji, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for Krauss, who was in the guesthouse?
• Was the crime also possible for the people in the mansion besides Natsuhi?
• Is it possible George and the others were actually just playing dead?
• Is it possible that there was a way to reach the second floor without passing through the lounge Erika was in?
• Is it possible that the crime was committed before 24:00?
• Is it possible that the crime was committed after 3:00?
• Is it possible that the crime was committed outside the time-span of 24:00 to 1:00?
• Is it possible that someone in the mansion committed the crime between 24:00 and 3:00?
• Is it possible that something smelled, and it was the Butz?

Who's that at the door?

#16. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (2005-____)
CBS, Comedy
Choice Songs:
- IT'S SECRETARIAT EVERYBODY!:
- Doctor Who:
- I'm Yours:
- Istanbul:
- Look Out There's A Monster Coming:
- Melt With You:
- Some of Magic Week:
- Big Bang Theory:
- Oops, I Did It Again:

Whaddadoo, everybody! Whaddadoo. It's a great day for ranking shows! Craig Ferguson's Late Late Show finally gets its write-up after spending months waiting for the top twenty twenty to be reached.

There are some (okay, a lot of) late night talk shows that I enjoy the monologue but dislike the interviews unless there's a top-notch guest on like Tom Hanks, Denis Leary, or Sandra Bullock. There are some where I usually like the interviews better than the first half-hour. Then there are the late night shows I don't watch except for their best bits. Conan's the monologue. Fallon's the interviews. Kimmel's the bits. Leno and Letterman? Meh. Craigyferg's the only one where I love watching the entire thing, every time, no matter who the guest is. The random-whatever-the-hell-we-want-to-do opening, the free-flowing monologue, Checking Ze Tweets (Und Also E-Mails), the note free interviews, the awkward pauses, the blowing the mouth organ, and the kitty graphic. Oh my! Every time I'm in love.

Like a lot of this things this year, I haven't watched it all that often so I have no idea what new bits he's done, what the best interviews have been recently, if Secretariat's still around. Hell, I think the last time I was watching regularly was when Bridger (a.k.a. tiny Conan) was still new and I don't know if he's even appearing on the show anymore. I can't believe it's been half a year since the year he was learning Spanish every episode, even though that ended like four months in. I really need to get on that, but by 12:30 I'm zoned out on GameFAQs or playing video games the next three hours. *shrug*

It's usually fun and games, but there have been some memorable serious things on the show. The Desmond Tutu interview. Holy **** that was incredible. Go look for it right now if you haven't seen it. TVsCraigFerguson channel ought to have it somewhere. I'm not going to link it or else I'll be spending another hour watching Kristen Bell interviews that I've already seen ten times each, but go do so you cheeky little monkeys! And each time his parents died. ****. The guy's human. I think the first time I actually watched the show (or took notice of the show as I watched it) was when he refused to make fun of Britney Spears. That was awesome.

But most of it is comedy. Except for Magic Week. And Shark Week. And Puppet Week. And ooh, did you know? In August, they're doing shows in Paris. With Kristen Bell as co-host! I KNOW! It's going to be fantastic. I loved when Conan did Chicago with the Sears Tower Wearing Sears Clothing and all of his trip to Poland, but Mr. Ferguson and Mrs. Bell in Paris? Explodagasm. I don't know if that's even a thing, but it should be.

Why do I keep mentioning Kristen Bell? Because she is an amazing guest. Watch any interview of hers and she's amazing, but the chemistry on Late Late Show is perfection. If she or Ewan McGregor or Betty White or Neil Patrick Harris or the Mythbusters are on the show, you just know it's going to be an incredible hour of television. Okay, Mythbusters are about 50/50 for turning it up to 11, but Grant gave us Geoff Peterson so they get a pass.

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So what did we learn on the write-up tonigh

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"And the theoretical maximum is 2880 messages, so I was only performing at 45.94% posting efficiency." - Luster Soldier

The only thing that could make that write-up better would be Bruce Campbell appearing midway withcarrying that gun from The Expendables while the nurses make out on both sides of him and-

Oh crap, my number's been called! NOOOOOOO

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“So we’ve cornered Andy and Kyle in the Swarts stairwell and then this guy comes out of NO WHERE like ****ing Batman or something.” ; ExTha is the man

Zero changes, sir, except for the post-script.

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“So we’ve cornered Andy and Kyle in the Swarts stairwell and then this guy comes out of NO WHERE like ****ing Batman or something.” ; ExTha is the man

Also, now that I'm remembering to do it... off-the-cuff character ranking:

1) Adam Park (MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, with cameos in Space and Overdrive)
2) Tommy Oliver (MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, DinoThunder, with cameo in Forever Red)
3) Dr. K (RPM)
4) Kimberly Hart (MMPR)
5) Lord Zedd (MMPR - In Space)
6) Farkus Bulkmeyer (MMPR -, In Space, Lost Galaxy, Samurai, with cameo in Forever Red)
7) Zack Taylor (MMPR)
8) Eugene Skullovitch (MMPR - In Space, with cameo in Forever Red)
9) Billy Cranston (MMPR, Zeo)
10) Jason Lee Scott (MMPR, Zeo, with cameo in Forever Red)
11) Jen Scotts (Time Force Pink)
12) Astronema (In Space, Lost Galaxy)
13) Wesley Collins (Time Force Red)
14) Goldar (MMPR - In Space)
15) Zordon (MMPR - In Space)
16) Eric Myers (Time Force Quantum)
17) Andros (In Space, Lost Galaxy, with cameo in Forever Red)
18) Ziggy Grover (RPM Green)
19) Rita Repulsa (MMPR - In Space)
20) Ransik (Time Force)

Seasons Watched:
--WIN--
1) MMPR S1
2) In Space
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3) RPM
4) MMPR S2
5) Time Force
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6) MMPR S3
7) Zeo
8) DinoThunder
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9) Turbo
10) Samurai


P.S. -

Power Rangers RPM only lasts a little while longer after episode 24, but some of the bigger revelations happen and the plot ramps up considerably. A damn good show.

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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

A computer virus took over everything and the city of Corinth is the only place safe from its machine empire. The rangers are the general's youngest son who is trying to prove his worth to his father and earn his respect and love while his dad doesn't give any both because he's the youngest and likely his favorite and also because the eldest son was lost in combat not long before. I haven't finished the series, but I expect the brother to come back in some way. He's Red. Blue ranger is a Scottish mechanic who always tries to do the right and noble thing, but it somehow backfires. He usually ends up fixing his mistakes noticing he missed a few small details. Yellow's a motorcycle-riding tomboy hottie with a crush on Black... except before the war, she was a spoiled rich princess who treated her faithfully doting butler like a bigger piece of furniture than the Ushiromiya family did in Umineko. It's for comedy and the butler's awesome, but you can tell how much she was affected by his love, her parents' mission to marry her off, her friends' selfishness, and how much she needed to grow up to survive. Black's part cyborg and reluctant hero. At the point I'm at, he's constantly searching for his sister and clues towards his past (he's an amnesiac cyborg) while also fighting off an infection of the Venjix virus. Ranger Series Green's a goof. He was originally a sidekick, sort of an Alpha 5 but even less competent. Then to stop a villain (the very hot Netaya 7) from stealing ranger gear, he equipped the suit himself and bonded to it. Now he's the plucky comic relief who fights worse than Billy in his early days. It's actually not as annoying as it should be. He's Xander. All heart, but no hope in a fight. He was working his way up in the mob before he stole one of their cartels. It was full of medical supplies and he gave everything out to orphans, but didn't tell anybody for fear that they'd crack down on the orphanage.

There's also Dr. K, the creator of the RPM Rangers. <3. She's got some huge backstory that I don't want to spoil. Dr. K is my favorite character in the cast. She's sheltered, somewhat autistic, suffers no fools, chews out Ranger Series Green (probable romantic tension), has very weird girl talks with Yellow, and explains a ton of Power Rangers lore like the morphing grid and zords and why the suits aren't spandex (she will go ape**** if you call the suits 'spandex'). Hell, the whole series is like a deconstruction of Power Rangers tropes. I just linked to the second Choice Video and now I'll link to another that follows it because it's just... it's brilliant.


- Watch until about 4:55. So good!

There's also a Gold and Silver Ranger who... are wack-jobs. They are hyper-intense man-children who LOOOOVE EXPLOSIONS! BOOM! POW! KABOOM! They're impulsive, not afraid of anything, run into the thick of things with little regard for plans or strategy, and should have been killed five times over by where I am. I don't hate them. This is not me hating them. They're actually refreshing after they grow on you and stop shouting explosion noises ever two minutes.

You know what? I think I'm going to find out where I left off and finish it up now. I've gotten through all the seasons including that ****-tastic Power Rangers Samurai in the beginning and think I made my case clear for why it's so high up (answer: because I wrote 32000 characters on it and haven't gotten sick of it since I started 12 hours ago).

Meanwhile, Bulk & Skull's journey over the last six seasons is at an all time low. First they were bullies. After Pirantishead and the Thunderzords, they wanted to find out who the Power Rangers were. Then they became junior detectives to score chicks. Lt. Stone was a great addition... until he had to take care of them when they were turned into monkeys (did I mention Turbo sucked?). Now? They're travelling around with Professor E. Gadd looking for aliens. *facepalm* At least Bulk's teaching Spike the samurai ways now, even if he needs some lessons from Jason.

Probably my favorite episode of the entire series was when Adam came back in "Always A Chance" to teach Carlos to have confidence in himself and his abilities as a Ranger. He just shows up, kicks ass, helps Carlos become a decent character, and has a powerful scene deciding to use the cracked Black morpher. It kind of reminded me of when Tommy used up the last of his Green Ranger power in Season 2 to save everyone else. He knew it probably wouldn't work and there was a chance he could die, but it was the right thing to do and it had to be done.

And dammit, how could I forget the best part of Season 2? Goldar vs. Tommy! Tommy was without powers now, or just about to run out, and Goldar had kidnapped him to make him doubt himself and his heroism, but Goldar goes a step too far. Tommy overcomes his doubts and delivers the biggest ass-whooping to the guy who regularly made the Rangers tremble before. Tommy takes out Goldar unmorphed because he ****s Rita's goons up (remember how he decimated Putties in his first appearance?) and goes out with a bang. Until "White Light" and Kimberly faints and Billy discovers the whole hidden room under the Command Center and HOW THE HELL DID I SKIP ALL THIS TEN PAGES AGO?!

Ah, whatevs. Back to bullet points.

- In Space is awesome. I'm not sure how to explain it, but it is.
- Learning of Andros' connection to Astronema is a HUGE turning point
- Countdown to Destruction is the best two-parter since... hmm... Season 1? End of Season 3? The epic battle, all the villains involved, "I'm a Power Ranger!" It was all epic and a culmination of six years of fighting. So good.
- Didn't watch Lost Galaxy or Lightspeed Rescue, though I want to watch Galaxy for Cassie and Karone stuff
- Time Force was awesome and I already talked about it
- Forever Red really should've been two parts, but as it was morphenomenal on its own
- Ninja Storm had Auggie from Higher Ground
- Tommy came back for DinoThunder and had a great episode where he fought three of his past morphs. Yay no Turbo
- Didn't watch SPD, Mystic Force, or Jungle Fury; barely watched Operation Overdrive
- "Once A Ranger" was awesome and hell yea Adam!!!

I've seen about 24 episodes of Power Rangers RPM and it's incredible how much more apocalyptic and devastated their world is compared to the past shows. It's like In Space where they know they're likely to get cancelled after that season so they just want to go out on a high note. RPM takes so little from it's counterpart which, from what I've seen and how much of a Kids Meal Toy the Zords look, is even more comic than Carranger (Turbo).

Oh, and Rita came back! While Zedd was sleeping, she used a beauty potion on herself and love potion on him and they got married. Zedd had already lessened as a villain by now because of parental outcry, and the marriage to Rita turned the pair of them into a bit of a joke.

As the rest of my write-up turned into recap after this point, I'll just touch on the good points:
- Rito Revolto is awesome and his chemistry with Goldar and Ed ("That's Zedd!") was a highlight of an otherwise poor season
- It's too bad Kim left in Season 3 because she was at her midriff-baring hottest; Catherine's a poor substitute
- Billy became awesome after dropping the glasses, losing the suspenders, and going sleeveless. Second best fighter after Tommy
- The Rangers-into-kids storyline was cool until the search for the Zeo Crystals.

The biggest plotline of Zeo was the mystery of the Gold Ranger's identity. There were many possible candidates. Tommy's brother was recently introduced and always hanging out with the group, Billy was always mysteriously disappearing whenever Gold Ranger was around, and the guy from VR Troopers did the voice. Hell, even Skull! Either way, the Gold Ranger was really alien triplets who gave the returning Austin St. John the power of the Gold Ranger and Pyramidas, and Billy left to bone some alien babes on Aquatar. Zeo also had the Red Battlezord which was this punchy, hyperactive zord that was just hilarious to watch. Hell, it had four Megazords at once sometimes (Pyramidas, either Zeo Megazord, Warrior Wheel, and Red Battlezord, maybe even Auric the Conqueror).

- Turbo sucked. Except for the Phantom Ranger.

And... In Space. In Space is the sixth season of Power Rangers and easily the best or second best overall season after the first. I'd have stuck to just Mighty Morphin 93-96 if I didn't want to include In Space. In Space takes place right after the Turbo Rangers face some devastating losses. I don't know what they are because Turbo Rangers sucked, but it probably had to do something with the fact that Zordon had been kidnapped and they had to go save him. TJ, Cassie, Ashley, and Carlos take off in a NASADA spaceship to save the universe and leave Justin behind to be with his dad. Justin had a few good episodes in Turbo and In Space, so he's not all bad. Better than Carlos most of the time. Ashley was hot and had a nice romance with Andros, TJ was strategic, Cassie had the most personality and acting chops, and Carlos... he was only memorable because he shared that one episode with Adam.

So In Space really opens with all the villains partying in some interstellar bar that Divatox finally defeated the Pwoer Rangers, that Zordon was captured, and that everything was going right with villainy. Rita & Zedd were there, King Mondo was there, a strange cloaked figure was there, and Sexy McCatsuit Astronema made her first appearance, trumped Divatox & Rita's catfighting with her badass self, then realized there was a spy in their midst and chased off the Red Space Ranger. Meanwhile, the Turbo Rangers rocket crashes somewhere and the Red Space Ranger shows up and saves them. He takes them on his ship and after another attack, reluctantly gives them Space Ranger morphers. Yes! Power Rangers in Space begins!

Okay, not off to the greatest start. They still spend the majority of time on Earth, the spaceship they're on (DEKA) transforms into the Megazord, not a combination of five or six color ones, Andros is apprehensive with them, and the stakes haven't been raised much. Plus, team-up with the Ninja Turtles. Augh.

Season 1 is better than Season 2. It has better storylines, stronger characters, better zords, and there's an excellent team dynamic that's scrapped half way into Season 2. Yes, better Zords. The Thunderzords are cool and the Thundermegazord is one of the coolest looking megazords created. It's a complete upgrade. And the Red Dragon Thunderzord > Tyrannosaurus if only because it fights well on its own. But you can't say that the White Tiger Thunderzord (or it's ****ty Megazord) are better than the Dragonzord and all its combinations. And the Megazord's awesome on its own without the upgrade. And the Dinozords are much cooler than four of the guys that make up the Thundermegazord if only because they do stuff, not to mention dinosaurs/ancient mammals > sphinx, unicorn, griffin, phoenix. Plus, because Zyu2 footage was used early on for Season 2, most of the fights just had the Thundermegazord in there tangentially. It'd throw a punch, the other monster would fall down, they'd swing a sword, the battle's over. They were never in the same scene together. And it's silly I'm griping about that because when the Zyu2 footage is over, it's the old costumes against Dairanger villains.
Oh god, the Dairanger villains. So so bad. They're stuff you'd find in a Shin Megami Tensei games. Walking lipsticks, measuring tape, plinko games, purses. MMPR we had mythological creatures and giant animal hybrids. They were monsters that had universal appeal. Things like:



are just stupid.

Anyways, Season 2. Season 2 was worse than Season 1 in a lot of ways, but it had some things that were not only stronger than the first season, but also everything that came after. First and foremost, Lord Zedd. Lord Zedd is the BEST villain Power Rangers has ever seen. No one was better than Lord Zedd in his prime. He was evil, had a killer look, made Rita and the rangers look like chumps, glowed red when angry, and even teleported himself and his throne into the Command Center once. Such a badass.

We also got the White Ranger. Now, the Green Ranger is cooler than White Ranger in almost all ways. Better suit, better theme song, better zord, better stories. But the White Ranger trumps him in one big way. For some reason, American footage always uses the suptidest, goofiest looking cloth or crappy foam thing for the Dragon Armor. The original thing that looked like their metal piece of badass? Awesome. The flimsy cosplay attempt? I am so happy for the White Ranger so I don't have to look at that ****ty prop for every battle for the next two seasons. Plus, White Ranger's a tiger. That's awesome too.

That's three of the four big things that happened in Season 2. The fourth? As rumors go, Thuy Trang, Walter Jones, and Austin St. John all wanted bigger paychecks from Saban. Next thing you know, they're off to Switzerland and three ninjas from Stone Canyon arrive, rollerblade for ten minutes to save a baby (well covered by Linkara with tons of kudos to Bulk & Skull), and soon join the rangers. Rocky's nice and goofy, Aisha's nice and much more extroverted, and Adam's shy and quiet. Jason and Zack are sorely missed. It also hurts that Zack's brother and Trini's lovelife were big characters of early Season 2 so the plots went nowhere. Tommy, Kimberly, and Billy would always be hanging out almost exclusively together while Jason, Zack, and Trini would be scuba diving or doing charity work or somewhere indisposed. After that, only Bulk & Skull saving them from the Kaleidoscope monster and Rocky in the Plinko episode were worthwhile.

Tommy definitely stole the show after this. Before, Jason was the boss with his awesome commanding voice, but now Tommy's around and half the plotlines revolve around his rivalry with Jason or romance with Kim or forgetting his communicator in his locker/gym bag. You see, Tommy was forgetful because the Green Ranger rarely fought. Remember the Green Candle Saga? The Green Candle was a spell of Rita's that would drain Tommy's powers every time he used them until they were all gone? Then in his last minutes as a Ranger, he handed off his flute and armor to Jason? Well, that Green Candle was around since the beginning in Zyuranger and it drains life force. Dragonranger only showed up to call in the Dragonzord or else the candle will burn quickly. And when the candel burned out? that scene where Tommy transfers the shield over to Jason? He really dies. They unmorph and he dies like a minute later. And Jason only uses the Dragon Shield like twice.
Looking over the episodes from the end of "Green With Evil" (episode 21) through "The Green Candle Saga" (34/35) and then to "Return of an Old Friend" (49/50), it's almost crazy how popular Tommy is! Between the two Green Ranger multi-parters, he really ONLY shows up to call in the Dragonzord when the other rangers are in a jam. He never fights, he never morphs with the others, he has that one moment. And between Candle and parents' night, he only shows up at the end of "Doomsday" (episode 40) which was easily the biggest fight of the original season with Goldar commanding his own zord and even Titanus and the power of the Ultrazord got decimated. Maybe the love for him is because he was such a solo act. He would often be featured doing other things to explain why he couldn't get to this communicator. Training, homework, studying, fighting with putties, swimming... While the Power Rangers were getting their asses kicked, you just knew Tommy would show up at the last second and save the day because he was that awesome. And then after the Candle, he's gone again for fifteen episodes.

At least now I finally realize why the last ten episodes of Season 1 are the ones always replayed. They're the only episodes where Tommy fights morphed thanks to Zyu2 footage. Power Rangers was so popular that Saban got the people who do Sentai to make ten or twenty more costumed fights for the Rangers. Ten of these are used in Season 1, and five of them (the last five... football, Zack's pearls, the shark, the Lizzinator, and the lobster that commanded a group of fake rangers) are the only episodes ever replayed, I swear.

There was more footage to use, though. Season 2 began with an Angel Grove charity race on ATVs. Then, lightning struck! The earth shook! Rita's master has arrived because she sucked at conquering earth! A throne appears! It swivels around. Buh buh buh budda buh buh buh. Lord Zedd has arrived!

The Power Rangers fight against Rita Repulsa and her minions. After 10000 years, she was freed from her dumpster and decides to conquer Earth (Zordon then realizes she's escaped and recruits a team of teenagers with attitude). She's a witch and uses magical spells, skulls, candles, orbs, and her magic wand to cause all kinds of mayhem for the people of Angel Grove. Her bruiser's Goldar, a gorilla-bat creature with fantastic golden armor and a bigass sword. I don't think I've ever seen a Sentai villain look so simply badass. Finster makes the monsters and putties out of clay and is seemingly too nice for villainy. Baboo & Squatt don't do much except play plucky comic relief since the whole kidnapping children thing was often left in Zyuranger. There was also Scorpina who was hot... except when she was a giant ugly spider. She pretty much disappears for no reason. And in the middle of the first season, she created the greatest villain of all.

The Green Ranger.

The Green Ranger Saga is the biggest storyline on the show, even after 17+ years. It's a five-part epic with a new kid in school. He's a good fighter and ties Jason in a karate tournament and Kimberly instantly gets the hots for him. One day, he's walking down an alley and gets attacked by Putties. And he completely manhandles them! Even the five regular characters combined struggle with half a dozen and nobody else stands a chance, but this new guy? With his infinite tornado kicks and trash can lid throws? All three or four putties are down. Rita's so impressed, she kidnaps him and turns him into her evil Green Ranger.

Now that would be cool enough. Green Ranger's sent out, fights the Rangers, wins a little, Rangers regroup and defeat him next time. Right? Wrong.

As soon as Tommy transforms into the Green Ranger, he freaking teleports into the Command Center and takes Zordon and Alpha offline. He absolutely wrecks the base. Then the Power Rangers go fight Goldar in the Megazord, but it's all a distraction! The Green Ranger jumps up and goes inside the Megazord!!! He sucker punches the five of them then beats them all in a 1-on-5 with an evil sword and some Dragonball Z ki attacks. The Power Rangers are defeated, their leader gone, their base wrecked, and their Megazord compromised. And this is all PART ONE!

Over the next four episodes, Tommy breaks Kim's heart, the Dragonzord is summoned to eat the candy cane smokestack, and other stuff I can't quite remember. There are two more big big things in the saga. First, Jason fighting Goldar unmorphed in the dark dimension. I forget why he's there or what he's after, but the fight lasted like two episodes and I remember being on the edge of my seat while Jason hides out in the fog and Goldar stabs the ground with his sword looking for him. Second, the final fight with the rangers where they destroy the sword and stop Rita's control and Tommy joins the team. It's an excellent saga and one of the best parts of Power Rangers. "Green With Evil" established Tommy as the new badass in town and his popularity kept him around forever.

And the fights. I loved early Power Rangers because not all the fights were in costume. The rangers would be walking home from community service or playing football and then half a dozen putties would show up out of nowhere. Ooblobobolboblboboooo. They'd spend the next minute or so fighting. Sometimes the events of the episode would cause them to lose early, but they'd always come back to win either after conquering their fear or getting a pep talk in the Command Center. Soon, either Goldar or the monster of the week would show up and then

"IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!"

Boom! Mastodon, Pterodactyl, Triceratops, Sabretooth Tiger, Tyrannosaurus! Quick, simple, pumped up, fight is on. There's no two minute long sequence of the ranger costume melding to their body and the helmet appearing around their head with explosions all over the CGI backgrounds Just faces shouting one or two words while their hands are outstretched and colored lightning flashes around them. And then they're in the middle of the action right away while any of Ron Wasserman's amazing fight songs cues up and powers the fight along. They stop the monster, Rita's magic wand makes her monsters grooow, they need Megazord power now, Megazord sequence is initiated, Megazord activated, the monster gets the upper hand, they need the Power Sword now, then they finish him off, and Rita gets a headache. It's formulaic, but never does it get too stale. Then they finish up the episode dealing with Bulk & Skull. Always fun! Doo do doo do doo do, doo do do-do doo do do-do, DOO! Then the SABAN logo and Megazord sequence. Always, always quality nostalgia.

I haven't even touched on the other players in Season 1. Zordon's the best floating head in a tube ever. Alpha 5 is something out of Justice League International, always the comic relief even when the danger lights are going off or he's getting hi-jacked by the villains. A-yi-yi-yi-yi! Ernie's a fun guy who runs the Juice Bar and provides lots of parties and community activities. Principal Caplan gets flustered and loses his toupee.

There are like eight regular settings for the show. First, you've got the Command Center, this really ****ty little room that's the coolest place ever to a little kid. There's lights everywhere, there are these pillars that flash different colors, there are these jewels that light up like the Aggro Crag when Angel Grove's under attack, Zordon in a giant floating tubes, a bunch of terminals and computers that do tons of stuff with random button presses like time travel, teleportation, etc., and the viewing globe. The viewing globe is cool because they can get the footage of the monsters attack a bunch of Japanese people and use it without looking too different from the rest of the show. And the outside of the Command Center? It's just the coolest looking building ever!


Next up? High school. Just your average high school hallway with attached classroom and stairway to nowhere. Mrs. Applebee's classroom gets some use, but most of the action will be in the hallway. Oh, and there's always a nook they can use to privately teleport to the Command Center. Oh, and Tommy accidentally leaves his communicator in his locker every other episode. Another place is Billy's garage. They keep a flying car there and work on stuff when the Command Center's down or about to go down.

Ernie's Gym & Juice Bar/Angel Grove Youth Center was the other base of unmorphed operations. Jason would teach karate here, most fundraisers and activities would be held here, lots of tournaments and gatherings, pretty much anything of note happened in Ernie's Juice Bar. It was terrible when it became an outdoor lounge or whatever in like Turbo or Zeo. Then there's was Rita's moon palace, the park where they fought putties all the time, the desert-like valley where they fought putties all the time and Capt. Kirk threw a rock at some monster, and the beach which had a bunch of water-themed monsters.

Power Rangers Samurai? Even though it's only aired 25% of its run, it's already ****. Whether or not you've watched the original material like I had, you know the characters are just terrible. Jayden's a quiet nice guy, Blue's a bit abrasive and serious business but still very nice, Yellow gets down on herself but is very nice, Pink's a bit of a ***** who seems fake nice, and Green's... I hated him at first because he seemed like such a mactor, but he's legitimately the only entertaining Ranger. Jii's like this stereotypical wise Asian father figure who does jack. The villains are okay, but none of their quirks have showed up so they're just there. Hell, the only parts worth watching are for Bulk & Spike and they only get about thirty seconds an episode that's barely even tangentially related to the show. I've yet to see the new Gold Ranger, but I'm going to check out his entrance soon. but damn, I just went through three episodes and it's so dry. The only bit of fun was Spike falling in love with Pink Ranger because 1) Bulk & Spike, 2) Bulk & Spike actually in a scene with rangers, & 3) it was funny. God what an awful show.

And how do I tie it back to the original set? The characters. Bulk & Spike are the best part of PRS, but they don't do anything. Ever. They're the only legit new footage and plotting and they also bring back the flavor of the original series. MMPR's characters were nice, friendly after-school special characters too but they had personality and charm to go along with it. These guys were cool even if they were cornballs. Jason ran a karate class teaching children discipline, control, and self-defense and he was passionate about it. His show-and-tell was swinging around a bo staff like a mad man. Zack was the cool, suave, funny charmer. He went out on dates, danced, did magic, and probably had the most interaction with everyone else including Alpha who was usually only in group scenes. Kimberly was a very skilled gymnast whose beauty and personality gave hundreds of thousands of kids their very first crush; she made valley girl sound awesome. Billy was the cowardly lion of the bunch, but he grew stronger and more confident as the series went on. Trini... I don't recall too much besides the straight man of the group and Billy's translator. And Tommy? Ass in real life, but such a damn good ranger. They were all good, nice guys.

What's the difference besides bigger skillsets and a more refreshing attitude? Bulk & Skull. It's not just that Bulk & Spike don't interact with the cast, it's that the cast doesn't interact with them. Bulk & Skull were in every episode tormenting the teens or random people at Ernie's Juice Bar and they'd eventually get their comeuppance by the end of the episode, usually multiple times. They were a joke, but they kind of deserved it. They'd always tease and taunt the goody goods until they got over their heads then get a pie int he face or fall in the cake as karma. And they also brought out personality in the rangers. There are quite a few times where their antics cause Jason to almost lose it and want to just pop them before his friends held him back. Like nothing crazy, but say Bulk kicks a stool out from under him. He'll jump up with a raised fist ready to go on impulse, but zack and Kim would tell him to calm down. Then Zack would challenge Bulk to a dance off or something because Bulk's bragging about what a smooth playa he is. They add a conflict to the out of costume portions, much like Peter Parker had Flash Thompson, Harry Osborn, J. Jonah Jameson, and others. Heh, Principal Caplan and J. Jonah even look quite alike. Samurai? The only conflict is the fights and the rest of the show is the blandest vanilla ever.

Because Power Rangers 1-18 is out on Netflix Instant... REPOST!

SPOILERS FOR ALL POWER RANGERS SERIES AND SOME SENTAI IN THE POSTS AHEAD

#26. Power Rangers (1993-____)
FOX/DisXD/Nick, Nostalgia
Choice Fight:
Choice Scene:

- This is the biggest nostalgia bump any show gets in this ranking. No question. The show is cheeseball, most of the actors can't act, it's for kids, and it's not even original material most of the time, but dammit, I love this show. I have absolutely no idea why I do. There are plenty of shows I get into kicks with, growing nostalgic then watching as much as I can fit in to the span of a week before finding something new. Power Rangers is the only one that is constantly reoccurring. A few I've gone back to several times, but it feels like twice a year I'll just fall deep into Power Rangers hype and nostalgia. When I first started watching in 1994, when I came back to Turbo after Zeo was meh, when I came back to In Space when the new Turbo Rangers sucked, when I watched the classics while Lightspeed or Time Force was airing, when I tuned in for reruns and Dino Thunder, when I caught a few weeks of Operation Overdrive not long before the big team-up, when I went heavy on Power Morphicon videos and season 2 last winter, when I watched all of Time Force and Samurai Sentai Shinkenger this summer, and now as I regularly check out Goukaiger. I nominate songs from Power Rangers for music ranking topics, I watch music videos featuring fighting montages, I dressed up as the Green Ranger for Halloween when I was really young and used to draw them all the time. I own about eight Power Rangers comics (Hamilton > Marvel), I've seen the movie at least seven times (Turbo 2 or 3 for evil Kimberly), and I went to McDonald's two or three times a week to get the movie toys with my happy meal (think I got all six, though maybe not the Crane). The only reason I remember the Nostalgia Critic site exists anymore is to regularly check to see if Linkara's posted a new history of Power Rangers episode. I'm a long time fan. Not big enough to own the actual zord toys or any big merchandise or go to Power Morphicon or anything, but I definitely love it.

Now, I brought up how terrible Power Rangers Samurai was in the Shinkenger write-up (and glancing over it, I heavily edited out my vitriol to a few lines at the bottom), and I will use the current series to compare the original flavor rangers with the newest incarnation. There's a huge gap in quality, in my opinion, between then and now. There are still great seasons like RPM, Dino Thunder, and Time Force, but Samurai is just plain awful. Actually, I could use Time Force more accurately first.

Time Force and Samurai are both rips of the Sentai equivalent. Time Force's characters and plot points are nearly all the same aside from different villain line-ups, a much lighter ending, and Yellow is a girl with a brighter personality. Blue and Yellow are a bit more vanilla since their characters boil down to narcissistic racecar driver and strongwoman with bubbly personality, but they're balanced out by Green, a psychic with green hair, cool inventions, and so much optimism that it plays a key role in the final episodes. Red and Pink are not only the key players, but easily the highlight of the season and one of the best romances on the show. Erin Cahill kicks ass in the role, not only leading the team half the time, but delivering some amazing scenes and kicking so much ass in a later team-up and the movie magic episode. No wonder Barney Stinson wants to bang her so bad (she's Ted's sister!). And Ransik is probably the best villain since Lord Zedd (maybe after Astronema).

You know who's got the best trollfaces?



This guy.

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XD. Just realized I forgot Umineko in the title.

**** it. I'm not restarting a third time in less than 24 hours.

12:34 PM or so

"If you know the truth, you can win a hundred battles without fighting."

- Gaap has the five corpses? Even Gaap has respect for the dead? Whaaaaa?
- Nice note, Virgilia. There should be six, not five. Who will be sixth? Kinzo or Krauss?
- A very captivating body. You shouldn't be telling me this at 3 in the morning, Bea.

So, anyone looking at George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa, or Genji's corpses could confirm at a glance that they are dead.
- Virgilia with the sudden and unexpected red truths!
- Beatrice notes in red that it is absolutely imposslbe that they are just people playing dead.
- Lambdadelta's creation is a trap, as is hiding in the closet
- No alibi and all the blame
- lol at the fourth wall breaking again; 'It may be a bit late to mantion this...but wait, this happens every time. As usual, the phone couldn't connect to the police.'
- "Natsuhi-san, it's dangerous to be alone." Dr. Nanjo wants to give you a sword!
- I remember this guest room. Eva and Hideyoshi were killed here in the first game. I recognize how the window and it's reflection on the floor look like an orange Portal and blue Portal respectively.
- And those two beds are where they had stakes driven into them.
- So there's a closet large enough to hide someone in, huh? Was someone hiding here in the first game?
- An unlocked room? You so crazy!
- You told Shannon you liked Fall? HOW COULD YOU?!

I never told anyone except Shannon that I liked Fall.
- lol Natsuhi red truths.
- Nuh-uh. She's probably told other people that you liked Fall. Like Kanon. Or something. Why the **** is this even an issue? Your favorite season? Oh god, there's a 25% you're right and there's no way you'd change your mind over time. What if Natsuhi was a normal person and had the current season as her favorite season on a beautiful day and the total opposite on days that suck? Today's a gorgeous summer day and I love it, but two weeks ago was unbearable and it's going to be worse come July. I love summer right now, but soon I'll be desperately missing the snowy hell that was winter.
- Hmm... whose arm is that? Hideyoshi?
- Hey, Hideyoshi! why are you coming in here? Isn't this where you and eva die in the first game? Coming to do that again?
- Go out and talk to him! Come on, Natsuhi!
- Go out and save his life! Come on, Natsuhi!
- lol, Erika brings allt he tension and stress back into a room with a freshly dead body.
- Oh, NOW you leave the closet? Yeah, you stay in and let Hideyoshi die to save Krauss, but as soon as everyone's gone, you dash out. Krauss is now dead. Thanks for that, Natsuhi.
- Detective's authority. What a stupid thing.
- Checkmate? Really? Already? Lady Bern, you can't be playin' no checkers on no chessboard, yo!
- Whoa, Hideyoshi was dead too at the start? I completely forgot about that. Battler still to show up. That'll be fun.
- Also, I still have jack in my Grimoire. I want the Knox's!!!
- By the 4th game, Battler could've realized the turth? Everything was laid out for him to find? Huh. If he hasn't solved i by now, he may never? I may never?
- Virgilia with the scolding.
- No kidding about Purgatory being torturous. It's even worse when you're led to believe it's an alternate timeline and the whole "We're all dead!" thing is a last minute twist that makes sense thematically, but fails hard when looking at the story and character elements that led to that conclusion.
- What's in the magic box? Will Schroedinger's Cat take the form of Beatrice's con artist father?
- WELCOME TO DIE
- Excellent, but curious scene. I look forward to more... after I check if HOLY **** GIANT CLOCK!!
- Okay, wait, what... what the ****?! MIDNIGHT?! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

Ayvuir posted...
Ok, after combining creativenames poll updater and the gamefaqscontests.com votes in to one, things have shifted about a bit, but not much, but it did get in to the top 20.

So we'll start at 21.


~ 21. Legend of Snake ~
Created by: MyWorldIsSquare
List Appearances: 3
Total points: 21

I unfortunately don't know much about this project, and as i didn't get a write up from MWIS this is likely going to be an awful start. From what i gather though, it seems to be a story of epic proportions! Just by looking at the website I can tell a mass amount of effort has gone in to this, and as far as writing projects go its gotta be up there on volume of content alone.

I know this was started a few years ago, but MWIS eventually stopped it when he left the board for a while, but it now seems to be back in fairly full flow, and I can tell by looking at the topic that the fans of the project are really excited about it, so it'll definately be interesting to see how it turns out.

IIRC, I love how all the nominations for The Legend of Snake came in before MWIS came back and declared its revival. Not bad for a two-year old project that never finished and barely got off the ground =D =D

TLoS, SO GOOD

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Natsuhi in the closet music putting me to sleep and not enough for a solid update. Tomorrow then. Have a good night ladies, gentlemen, witches, furniture, stakes, stuffed animals, goats, meatbags, and roses.

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New topic so this doesn't fill up:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59509497

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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

RED TRUTHS/BLUE TRUTHS AGAINST THAT CANCEL RUDOLF
- Okay, wait, what. "A few minutes before the letter was discovered, Shannon and Kanon came in to serve TEA." But I just got here from post-Natsuhi phone call/lock-in (who cares?) and we were told they'd been around for an hour. Were they just staring at the door the whole time?

"Not a single person in the dining hall...no, there's a simpler way to say it. Among all those inside the mansion at 24:00, not a single person placed that letter in the corridor."
Not a single person placed that letter
Not a single person
single person
- It was two or more people residing within that placed the letter there. In fact, it may have been all of them working together. In fact, it may not have even been out in the hallway. All the people inside the dining hall could have discussed Kinzo's status and a gambit was presented to throw Krauss and Natsuhi off their games. They wrote a letter up, gave the Head's Ring (they managed to acquire) to Battler, and created this story about knocks and letters to make things crazy. Not unlike all the servants readily agreeing to Natsuhi and Krauss's lie about Kinzo's life. In fact, any of the servants (though Nanjo most likely) gave up the info to Rudolf/whomever and someone stole the ring while Natsuhi/Krauss wasn't looking as proof or as part of this plan. This a united front. Not a single person. And as Erika, the Detective, wasn't there to observe this meeting, there's no way we can tell what really transpired (much like Battler wasn't around when Kinzo showed up and dropped everyone through the dining room floor last game). It's much less grandiose than Shoulder Guard Towers or slicing through hundreds of goats and their loser flags, but it works.
- If nobody knocked and nobody could fake the knock, then there was no knock was there?

"No one in the mansion placed the letter in the hallway."
- Originally, I read this looking at "no one" and "placed" trying to figure out who did it. Now, with the eight-person conspiracy afoot, "in the hallway" is the key. I need to remember basic True/False questions on tests. Prepositions are often a giveaway.

- The existence of others outside the mansion is a freebie because it doesn't pertain. This whole line of truths is a glammer for the real question: Was the letter ever in the hallway? The letter's as much in the hallway as Kinzo was outside walking in the rose garden (or jumping threestories out the window). It's only there because all involved maintain the lie.
- This may also explain a lot of the servant's behaviors. I thought it was quite absurd at just how badly they all lied on how Kinzo was most assuredly dead and that we musn't disturb him anytime Natsuhi and Krauss were around. Now, it's just comical. They're working against the two, but must keep up appearances around them even though they couldn't be more obvious if they were fake couhing and ribbing Natsuhi with their elbows.
- That's right Erika (and me two weeks ago). At 24:00 no one existed who could have hit the door. Don't worry about the who, worry about the what. Flip the chessboard over. If there was no knock, no one existing could have made it. Solved.

"At that time, everyone inside the dining hall definitely heard it. And none of them misinterpreted a knocking sound."
- Yesss, 100% confirmed! Success! I won the cross-examination. Now to see who is the next witness Prosecutor Dlanor wheels out. No idea who the killer is yet, but now that I'm remembering my Phoenix Wright, I'm preparing to expect the unexpected.


CAUGHT UP!!!

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- Don't care about the phone call
- The envelope was just outside the door at the time of the knock.
- ****! It's been an hour already? But Kanon and Shannon entered like twenty clicks before 24:00! That's like two minutes! Seriously? An hour?! The ****.
- Rudolf's the one holding the letter and showing it off to make sure there's no trick to it. He looks like he's putting on a show.
- Forgot the Hea'ds Ring and Beatrice signage was the letter.
- Rudolf insistent on Battler wearing it and not taking it off.
- Genji and Krauss both surprised.

THEORY: Rudolf is the one behind the letter's appearance and contents as well as the knock. How? I don't know, but he's the one pulling these tricks. Is he the killer? I've no clue, but he's the one behind this gambit. He somehow managed to get Father's ring and whatever envelope was in the hall could've been switched for the one he had while showing it off like a magician. I need to go over the red truths again to see what they limit, but he is 100% behind this. I can definitely feel the motive, but can't put it into words. Mostly just an aggressive action on moving forward with getting money and establishing Battler's headship without requiring Krauss & Natsuhi's "Kinzo is alive" gambit to end. He's aware Kinzo is dead and he's trumping their play with his own.

- Battler then ready to sleep just after 3AM. "How does [Rudolf] not get tired?"

'Tomorrow, there's something important I want to talk about, as a family. It's about you. If I tell you about this, ......I'll probably be killed.'

'I'ts about your birth'

- Rudolf is aware of the future murders, and if Battler's birth has any ties to Beatrice somehow as the last game seemed to note, Rudolf is a liar for saying he doesn't know who she is while reading the letter. Rudolf is likely the culprit. Krauss and Natsuhi are scapegoats.
- God, silently finding George's corpse is still an amazing moment

"I flipped the light switch.

"And then, that dimly lit morning ended."

*bloody teeth in silence*

- Five games in and Battler, Rosa, Jessica, Maria, Eva, and Natsuhi all have had fleshed out backstories. Krauss, Kyrie, George, and Shannon have had a lot of work. Hideyoshi's still the most charming guy in the world, but if he flips 180 at some point, I won't be terribly surprised. Rudolf's... still an enigma. We know virtually nothing about him, we don't know why Battler left for six years, Battler's birth is a mystery right now, he had one of the biggest "million dollar confessionals" before the first murders in game one about putting his makeup on... Rudolf?
- God, this is going on forever.
- Mass laughs and crazy eyes, yaaaay
- DLANOR!!!
- <3 Dlanor's crazy eyes. SAMURAI PIZZA CATS! I don't even know why I think of them. They don't have the same eyes.
- Go go Battler!
- KINZOFACES! Not so bad this episode.
- Still not yet 12:34, the only portion I had saved...
- Oh, here we go. Envelope truths.

My old desktop background:

My new desktop background:

Aw yeah, episode three.

First off... Windows 7 Wordpad sucks. I wonder if Notepad's all gussied up as well. I will find a way to make this application as basic as possible. Just the

Quick Refresh As I Watch Skipped Scenes:
- Battler's out of the game. Beatrice is catatonic. Lady Bern and Lambda take over til after the first twilight.
- Awesome intro
- Kinzo is dead. Natsuhi and Beatrice bring him back to life. She, Krauss, Gohda, Kumasawa, and Nanjo are in the know (as well as Kanon and likely Shannon)
- There was another conference last year. In this game, Kinzo's been dead at least a year. How the hell doesn't the mansion smell terrible all the time?
- Natsuhi likes talking to herself. She is a crazy person. It's likely that whoever is on the phone is just a figment of her imagination and Lambda's storytelling.
- Oh, hey, it's Jessica... for two seconds. Lulz.
- More talk about whether Kinzo is dead or not.
- Rosa gets a scene on the phone just before she goes to beat Maria. Still don't get best mom ever.
- Augh, it's still only the first day?!
- It's likely that the Mystery of Maria's Rose is the only one I'll solve. I think I'm still trying to figure out how Nanjo died. I still insist, like Kinzo this game, that he had died at a much earlier point in the game and not some stupid "their name is not their name" bit.
- Gohda!!! Best character of Episode 5, no question.

Quick rankings before I reach where I'm at:
S - Gohda, In-game Battler, Ronove, Lambdadelta, Kinzo, Dlanor
A - Erika, Kyrie, Rudolf, Krauss, Natsuhi, In-game Beatrice, Meta-Battler, Bernkastel, Cornelia & other chick
B - Kanon, Hideyoshi, Eva, Virgilia, Stakes, Catatonic Beatrice, Genji, Dr. Nanjo, Kumasawa, Maria
C - George, Jessica, Shannon
D - Siesta Sisters, Rosa
F - Gaap

- Holy creep face! Erika with the sustained Erikaface before the break after solving the epitaph.
- Goooooooold.
- Indeed. Why do the murders go on after the gold is discovered and role of next head taken?
- It's going to be ear murder when we get to the big blue truth battle with Dlanor.
- Hmm.. here's the big envelope scene...

ENVELOPE SCENE! (Cross-Examination sound effects)
- The gold has just been found and everyone's meeting together to discuss this at 24:00.
- Rudolf and Krauss discuss a tape set for keeping record of the discussion instead of writing it. No forgery.
- "Make sure you don't mess anything up...! Those are Father's precious music tapes!" from Natsuhi with a panicked look. Hmm... clue towards the tape set... oh yeah, can't forge a knock with pre-recorded sound effects.
- Rudolf went to find a random tape.
- Scene cuts to Genji. Rosa feels ill. Natsuhi and Krauss decide to 'rest' as well.
- lulz, Hideyoshi's beef speech (bumps up to A rank)
- Shannon and Kanon are both surprised by the knock.
- No one knew whose knock it was. Genji wouldn't knock like that.
- At the time of the clock's strikes, Genji was telling Natsuhi about another phone call (Krauss is just off to the side, supposedly, but it's unlikely he went and knocked). She and Natsuhi continued to talk before she went to her room and locked herself in.

I figured since the other topic is close to approaching 500, and I thank Ryoko and Leon for helping keep it bumped, it would be a good time to start up a new topic. Especially since I have to catch up anyway thanks to a new computer and no save file.

I'll be dumping some some new observations and quick glances on the skipped scenes up until 12:34am, after Erika's loony outburst at lunchtime in a little bit, but some quick rankings over the first 4 1/2 Episodes:


YOU'VE MET WITH A TERRIBLE FATE, HAVEN'T YOU TIER
Kyrie
Ronove
Dlanor
Beatrice
Battler

THE WIND FISH IN NAME ONLY, FOR IT IS NEITHER TIER
Lambdadelta
Bernkastel
George
Shannon
Natsuhi
Hideyoshi
Kanon

THE FLOW OF TIME IS ALWAYS CRUEL TIER
Loser Goat
Rudolf
Jessica
Eva
Ange
Beelzebub
Mammon

IT'S DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE! TAKE THIS TIER
Amakusa
Kinzo
Gohda
Krauss
Maria
Cornelia
Gertrude
Asmodeus
Lucifer

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE AVERAGE MIDDLE-AGED MAN STANDING BY THIS SIGN. LEAVE HIM ALONE TIER
Kumasawa
Genji
Dr. Nanjo
Sakutarou
Satan
Belphegor
Leviathan

SO, YOU'RE NOT ABSOLUTELY STUPID AFTER ALL TIER
Erika
Evatrice
Rosa
Siesta Sisters
Gaap

I AM ERROR TIER
Goldsmith

Oh no! You cannot be dead for the game has already started!

Or has it?

So, good news! Computer's in and all my old hard drives are still usable! I have Umineko 7! Yaaay!

Bad news? Unless I'm mistaken, there are no saves. So... I'm looking forward to pressing the skip button every few minutes. Also, the mouse sensitivity is crazy. I've tried toning it down, but I'm still clicking through three or four folders with a single tap and I've highlighted and accidentally deleted the majority of this post already just going back and correcting errors. This is going to be frustrating when I'm switching from game to Wordpad constantly.

I'll probably start it up tonight, but I'm going to spend the next few hours getting everything back in working order.

Thank you all for keeping this bumped.

Pre-Script: "Damn, I hope I still have the save files for the first four episodes. I want to go through the Loser Flag scene again!"

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“So we’ve cornered Andy and Kyle in the Swarts stairwell and then this guy comes out of NO WHERE like ****ing Batman or something.” ; ExTha is the man

Can't complain too much about President Bartlet and Tommy. That's a tough pool.

It should be a top 25 just so we get a write-up about Mac & WVI's fetishes (and B8BL, Mafia, Random Spell Tourney, and whatever drops down from creativename/gamefaqscontests jumping into the top twenty, but mostly the fetish topic).

Casual bump

Quick bump

Thankees muchly.

Just a quick update: I'm still without access. We got our new computer, the old hard drives are in there, and it all still needs to be set-up. However...

They forgot the power cord, XD. So We'll get that Monday hopefully and I'll be able to start up again Tuesday at the latest.

Happy birthday, ExTha!

My computer fried this morning and I won't be able to get back here for at least a few days, probably a week. I'd appreciate if you could keep this bumped.

I look forward to seeing how your list has progressed when I get back.


On the next

#17. Arrested Development (year-year)
FOX, Comedy
Choice Song: COME ON!

Well... damn. All that work to get Chiru working and now my motherboard's fried. Hopefully I'll get my hard drive back intact and a new computer up and running by the end of the week. I ask you to keep this topic bumped for me and not let this get to 500 just yet.

Notes from where I ended last night in case I forgot to save:
- Erika's a *****.
- I want Gohda to make me breakfast
- I love how she went looney at the table and everyone forgot about it like five seconds after
- Er, durr. A bit sad that the glorious leap from on high was really climbing down, but I loved how Battler had the same reaction as me to her claim: "I still got out the window and broke the closed room. No BS, please."
- umm... think that was it.

Thanks and sorry for the continued delays.