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None of the characters misidentified a knocking sound.
- Bern's got such a trollface on, like she knew this was coming just to get Erika's hopes up then dash them. She and Lambda are so having off-camera passionate les... er... they will spend their off-camera time "doing spells."

Battler: (to Bern) So whatcha been doin'? Doing spells? (to Ronove) She does spells with Lambda.
Ronove: Yeah, I've heard about that.
Battler: Sometimes I think about two women doing a spell... and then I do a spell by myself.

"Misidentifying a knocking sound means this: they would not mistake a sound very similar to a knocking sound for a real knocking sound. Hitting a pillar to make something similar to a knocking sound is not good. When you record a cassette tape and play it back, it becomes 'the sound of the tape with a knocking sound on it', and not a knocking sound. so that's no good either!

In other words, all of them would correctly distinguish a knocking sound of something truly hitting the door, and they definitely wouldn't mishear it. Its totally impossible that any sounds except hitting that door directly would be misinterpreted as a knock!!"
- Ha! I mean, now I'm clueless as to what went down, but it's awesome because it knocks Erika down a peg.

Which sucks because we're against the Witch-hunting Detective this game.

But it's cool because it's Beatrice & Battler's game so if Erika fails miserably, they come back to play forever and ever.

And... aw, ****... they're mind****ing us right now, aren't they.

"'To knock' means someone hitting a door with their hand. And none of them misinterpreted a knocking sound. Krauss, Natushi, and Genji were not involved with the knock. No one else existed inside the mansion. And that knock refers to the action of standing directly in front of a door and hitting it with a hand."
- Well... uh... the only thing I can think of is stupid, but, uh... maybe they weren't in the dining hall at the time. Is it in red that they were in the dining hall? Maybe the story's just making that up and they were totally somewhere else? Yeah, dumb, but we've had switched names. It's... yeah.
- Mmm, Gohda's meals. So good. They need more mackerel though.
- Uhhh... Erika accusing Battler of lying about how he landed outside in the courtyard? Okay, but, IMO, BLUE TRUTH IRRELEVANT. All that mattered was that Kinzo escaped his room through the window. If he did that by 'cleverly using a rain gutter' he creaks the closed room regardless of if he takes a three-story dive. In fact, it's even more plausible that would happen since he's likely escaped many times prior. And he'd likely know a way of climbing back up if need be.
- XD, Battler also not having any of this BS.
- Wait, story rewrite? He really did crawl? Heh.. can't expect anything to be true int his game, can I?
- Coocoo,, coocoo.

END, 11:30 AM or so

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Neither Krauss nor Natsuhi nor Genji knocked (or create/use that sound in some toher way like pillar/recording)!
- It wasn't a knock.

Coulda been someone else or a misheard thingamabob.

"At 24:00, except for Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji in the second floor corridor and all of the people in the dining hall, no other humans existed inside the mansion."
- Okay so a witch did it. Happy?

None of those in the dining hall knocked on that door.
- Unless this is attacked with a blue truth, note that she goes one about the direct/indirect knock when the true point of fact to look at is the "that door." Unless I'm being steered towards this, the knock was made by someone in the room, but not on the door. Whatever sounds could be amde in the dining hall, as long as they weren't directly on 'that door,' there could be knocking. If no one made a knocking sound, it would be fine, but 'that door' is a tell that the knocking took place from within.

Impossible for any character in the mansion to be the source of the knocking sound.
- Well screw you guys.
- Alright, so... I've only got three things I can think of. 1) thunder or some weather noise that they weren't used to. 2) something fell or moved within the mansion all on its own. 3) someone outside the mansion. Also, any 'character' within the mansion... as witches are characters, no witch made the knocking sound from withi... oh **** you Lambadelta. You did it from the tea room, didn't you?
- Erika could've made a recording and it would work.
- This is jsut an annoying string of wordy truths. Screw repetition.
- Ha. Of coruse Lambadelta can't repeat that. There's an entire world that exists outside the manion. Only those six is a very tiny number of people. It also excvludes Kinzo and this is all a trap to figure out where Kinzo isn't. If he's not in the mansion and he's not outisde the mansion, you've ddug a hole. Good job not repeating.
- Bern & Lambda in a tub. Aw yea

At 24:00. only Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa existed outside the mansion.
- Lambda... you fool. Your lesbian lover has compromised you with full body massage treats. Kinzo now does not exist. For shame.
- Those eight people icluding Erika? E, G, J, M, N, G, K...? That's seven? Bad translation?

The letter never existed on the ceiling of the hallway.
- I found that hilarious.
Know that the letter enver touched the serving cart.
- I'm huuuungry.
It was impossible for anyone outside the mansion to influence anything inside the mansion around the time of the family conference.
- BLUE TRUTH INEFFECTIVE! All of Erika's blue turth regarding the letter are lost. Damn. Siesta Sisters suck, but these two? Damn good. Damn, damn good.
- It's funny that she brought down Dlanor and her cronies to stop Kinzo from elaving the room, but now they're hassling Erika with the letter. So good.
- Bern letting it slide. And punishment!

Last time on Umineko Z!

Lots of awesome.

DUNNA DA DA DUN DUNNA DAAAA

- So here's Lambadelta laughing. Why is she laughing? Oh right, Erika turning into a maniacal Batman villain after Battler and Beatrice declare it to be their game. And since it's unlikely Battler's joined up with the game yet, I just realized that Lambda's Battler is actually in favor of keeping the witch alive. Maybe not, but since he isn't the detective of this round, he's free to be just another piece. Using his detective 'expertise' to allow the Golden Witch to live sounds like a promising twist.
- lol Bern, deadpan til the end... or not.
- I wonder what "Uwoaaaaaaah" and "Gyaaaaaagh" translate from. Chapter end.

So that was two more scenes.

11AM, DAY 2
- Hey there Dlanor. Care for some tea?
- All this tea makes me want to watch some Mentalist
- Apologize?

'Kinzo is dead at the starting time for all games.'

Knox's 2nd. It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective TECHNIQUE.

'The window was never opened after it started RAINING.'
- Dlanor is awesome. Erika's a *****.
- Poor Cornelia
- Dlanor with the save!
- Smug-ass Erika

"Before this family conference, Erika, George, Jessica, Maria, Nanjo, Gohda, and Kumasawa left the mansion and moved to the guesthouse."
- Ooh, are they all who they say they are?
"Of those who remain, only Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji were in the second floor corridor, while all the others were in the dining hall."
- Two notes. "Of those who remain" grabs my attention that this is a vital clue since it uses the epitaph phrasing. Also, if there is a Mystery Person X (which is highly unlikely), he or she must be in the dining hall at this time. 'All others.' Of course, this probably means nothing.
- Heyyy! reconstructed closed door! I've missed these.
- We know it's Krauss.

"Maybe one of those not in the parlor: Krauss, Natsuhi, or Genji, simply saw their chance right after that and placed the letter there-
We've heard that the mansion was locked and that no one outside could get in, but if someone pretended to have gone to the guesthouse and instead hid inside the mansion, it's perfectly possible that they could've placed the letter there."
- Blue truth effective.

"First off, we can doubt whether the kn-
- Screw truthing. Erika says the knock could've been made some other palce besides the door, for example, a pillar on the second floor that carries into the dining room. Or a misconstrued sound. Or a recording of a knock. Or they placed bombs in their food that they didn't eat and when they exploded rooms away, they sounded like knocks.
- Knocks. Knox. A clue?

Krauss, Natushi and Genji did not even touch that letter!
- Wasn't there a mystery in... the first or second game where it was a matter of who touched it or where it was? We could use a gloved hand or some kind of tool to hide the touching. Perhaps even that someone else wrote the letter and sealed it while another person handled the envelope.

Shannon/Knaon come in, who is last human to enter? Last person may have dropped it.

Among all those inside the mansion at 24:00, not a single person placed that letter in the corridor.
- Hmm... could it have been wedged in the doorframe and someone else knocked or made a knocking noise from somewhere else?

What I just said.
- Blue turth effective. It could have (not necessarily, but unobjected to by red truth) fallen off the serving cart or reached the outside of door by happenstance.

No idea. I used Work Offline in Firefox last time, but I restarted my computer between this topic and Wednesday/Thursday's.

I know you had two cartoons, and I remembered one of them when I put the topic up.

EDIT: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Transformers?

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I swear. It's like my life's mission to keep putting off playing this.

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muddersmilk posted...
The Question was great in that show.

I'd watch a The Question spinoff. It would be incredible.

Also, another note on hating DC. When I went to get some comics from Ocean State Job Lot in like 98/99, there was one comic that kep popping up in bins. Some Justice League comic. You know what completely turned me off? Kyle Rayner's facemask. I wasn't even going to touch the many books in the store because of how stupid looking his face mask was.

I like it somewhat alright now, but then? Another dealbreaker.

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Never seen Voyager. Tried watching Rizzoli & Isles because:
- TNT. They know Drama. <3 Leverage, and Rizzoli & Isles was coming out while I was on a huuuge Leverage and "watch ER/Supernatural every morning" kick.
- Angie Harmon is drop dead gorgeous.

But, eh, I never got into it. That's not a knock against the show. Every police procedural on my schedule I barely glanced at this year: The Mentalist, NCIS, Castle. Hawaii 5-0, NCIS: LA, and Criminal Minds are new things I've wanted to try, but have barely touched. So I have no idea where Rizzoli & Isles stands since I've seen equal amounts of it with NCIS, NCIS: LA, and Hawaii 5-0.

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So, for years, I actively hated DC Comics with, I still think, ample reason. I never gave Batman a shot, Superman bored me, and I was over Toonami by the time JL started coming on (and every time I tried to watch, it was that stupid episode where they all split up into pairs to fight varying threats around the world and Superman kept getting beat up at a museum).

Then a few years ago, I had the opportunity to read 52. I have been a huge fan of DC ever since. I've gone back to read Justice League International, Morrison's JLA, all of the Wally West Flash run from beginning til the end of Johns, Green Lantern: Rebirth on, Watchmen, Identity Crisis, The Dark Knight Rises, Hush, Booster Gold, and various other random issues. And I've heard so many good things about JLU that I had to try it.

It's worth it. Everything's just perfect. There are so many macro and micro storylines that weave throughout the series. There are so many characters introduced and not forgotten. Martian Manhunter is a boss. Booster Gold gets a limelight episode. The villains are well-drawn with flowing stories. The action scenes are incredible (but later trumped by Spectacular Spider-Man for superhero cartoons). The voice acting is the best talent I've heard. It's thoroughly incredible.

I've spent so much time delving on my change from hating DC to loving it that I didn't cover the show all that much, but I really don't know how to. It's just a great experience. Between the epic theme song, the well-paced story, the incredible characters, astounding voicework, and beautiful art, JLU is the best cartoon ever. No question.

Well, lots of Question. The Question is amazing and I wish he and the Huntress got more time together.

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"yeah but i seriously doubt anybody ... is going to be casually browsing through someone's credit report between bites of a baconator" - Ryoko

It's crazy that I can't put put it any category besides nostalgic because I only watched it within the last six-or-so months. I may have mentioned this in the Batman: TAS entry, but I never, ever watched anything DC growing up besides the Batman movies. I owned a few of their comics, but was thoroughly turned off for my childhood.

Great Comics:


- Superman #75 was the final bout with Doomsday which was amazing.


- The polybagged Adventures of Superman #500 which I read at least a dozen times, but didn't quite fully understand ever.

Good Comics:


- It's a lot better once I knew who the characters were and what was going on, but just reading it? I had no idea who anyone was and it took me out.

Worst Comics Ever:

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- Some Superman book where Superman is missing, but he's really up in Alaska with long hair, possibly a beard, and doing lumberjacking. I want to say it was issue #27 or one of his books, but I can't find any details and don't recognize any covers.


- Really dull origin story with art I hated.


- Which I still don't really understand. Hell, reading this comic, I thought Sinestro was just bad comic relief.


- Lots of death, lots of more mature art. Not a fan.


- Least favorite comic I've ever owned. He's in space and he fights a skyscraper-sized robot in space who adapts from defeat eventually turning yellow. It sucked.


- Batman Gothic #5 was a boring story with much different art than I was used to.

I think these ten were my only DC books. And look at them. Seven of them are some of the worst things I've ever read, two of them are big event books, and all of them I didn't have any idea what was going on. Those plus that stupid black triangle thing on the covers that always, always confused me to no end as a kid. I hated DC because of these books. Outright hated. Anyone who thought Batman and Superman were superior to the X-Men, Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Captain America were morons.

Hell. It's not even just the books.
- Batman toys were all these stupid, random costumes. My friend had like twenty Batman toys and every single one was a different costume, I swear. One was orange and purple!!!
- When I got my SNES for Christmas, I also received five games: Super Mario World (awesome), Donkey Kong Country (awesome), Illusion of Gaia (one of my favorites), The Great Circus Mystery Starring Mickey & Minnie (my sister and I would play this all the time), and:



Sunsoft AND Acclaim. This game holds the fastest record of going to Funcoland ever. Within a day of opening my presents, within a day, I sold it off and got Secret of Mana in exchange. It also turned me off from ever getting into fighting games. It was so, so bad.

Then you've got Marvel having some great cartoons, great video games (X-Men the Arcade Game was the ****!!! Still own Mutant Apocalypse, Spider-Man & X-Men, & War of the Gems), no Batman & Robin movie, and I owned at least seventy random comics of theirs from the nineties and loved them.

Hopefully. It was a weird day last... Thursday, I think? I know I bumped or played Umineko, but I somehow got distracted when the usual TV topic bump came around. Oh well. Such is life.

#18. Justice League / Justice League Unlimited (2001-2006)
CN, Nostalgia
Choice Song:
- How can I not go with the intro music? IT doesn't get much more kickass than that theme. Plus, unless I'm mistaken, I don't remember any iconic or outstanding soundtracks during the episodes and I don't want to browse the whole afternoon for the perfect scene (that isn't Flash punching Luthiac at light speed). And if I were feeling really chaotic, I'd throw up Batman The Brave & the Bold's Music Meister for kicks (if only I could remember who I thought looked like MM in JLU and when he appeared... there was definitely a gap-toothed redhead with big glasses somewhere in there who may or may not have sung).

Justice League & JLU are the final entries of the Timmverse, DC's long-running animated canonverse that started with Batman: The Animated Series in 1992. All the characters are drawn, voiced, and acted the same or similar to their episodes, especially Batman, Superman, and their villains like Lex Luthor and Joker. It's a legacy show just like DC was all about legacy superheroes. It all starts with a points and just flows outward and forward. Batman and Superman started off the ride, Justice League brought together seven superheroes, and Unlimited brought in a universe of characters.

Now, while I'd definitely rank it on the list just for having Martian Manhunter & Wally West in major roles, and cameos from Booster Gold, Fire, Ice, and others in the JLI, it's up this high because it's got a lot of great story and character writing. This is my highest-ranked cartoon on this list. There's one more I consider Nostalgic, but there's no other animated feature topping this one. This is the best cartoon.

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Got caught up with Civilization IV earlier and didn't have enough for a post.

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Probably my favorite character from the final seasons is Dr. Archie Morris, which is crazy because he was easily my most hated character in his first few seasons. The guy started off as the rich kid who didn't want to become a doctor but his parents made him. Hell, he even pulled a Costanza and very vocally, very loudly quit, but was back the very next day because his parents would freeze his finances if he didn't see 'this thing' through. He was an out-and-out *******. He was lazy, self-involved, delusional, and nobody you would want operating on you. His biggest moment early on was not moving from the admit desk in a Thanksgiving episode due to some happenstance involving Dr. Rocket Romano.

But damn did he grow on me. I don't know how he pulled it off, but he was easily the best character on the show and one of the best in ER's history by the final episode. He was still considered the comic relief when he became chief resident (no competition) after a year, and he still kind of sucked with the whole medicine thing (think he was also moonlighting as a pharmaceutical rep? or did that come later?), but around the time his four redheaded donor children popped up, he was just incredibly funny. And then that hospital shooting where he took charge? **** yes. That's when Archie became a man.

I don't really know why he's so good. The last few seasons I've mostly blanked on (even though they were much better than, say, 7-12 which I don't remember ANYTHING). He's charming, affable, he has some great relationships with Pratt and Bennett, he's got some massive character growth which I always love, and yet he's still the comic relief even though he's in charge. He's definitely Mark Greene like by the end because he's stoic and solid as a character and leader, but also has a humorous and bro side to him.

It's hard to remember the last time I would get up on weekday mornings just to watch TV. I think my last show for this was ER and TNT stopped airing reruns at 10am last Fall (other shows I'd wake mornings to watch: Boston Public, Angel, The West Wing, Supernatural, 24). ER was a reason to get up in the mornings or watch TV until 11 on Thursdays. It was a damn good drama and sorely missed the next year (but then, we had the Jay Leno Show so woo?).

The show is dramatic, hilarious, thrilling, and chaotic. Most of the episodes wind through so many patients and so many subplots that don't last the full hour that's it's hard to define what really happens all the time. Sure, there are the big disaster episodes, Emmy-nabbing patients (hey Ray Liotta), and extended guest stints, but it's just great overall. The first few seasons are easily the best and heart of the show, but I wouldn't knock a lot of the later stuff (though the middle, feel free to bulldoze).

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Then you had Neela Rasgotra, played by the gorgeous Parminder Nagra, who was part of so many stuttered romances that she was in a love pentagon by the end of Season 13 or 14 (let's see... Ray, John Stamos, Dubenko, the new guy, her feelings for Gallant, and maybe even one more). She was also such a timid little thing at first that it's still hard not to think of her that way even though she matured far more than Carter did (who definitely made leaps and bounds forward from his early days).

Ray Forgothislastname (Shane West) was amazing. I loved him. He was the new cool doctor, but like Ross, he wasn't just 'cool.' He was affable, charming, hardworking, great with friendship and romance (loved the chemistry with Neela), and still amazing in his cameos after he got thrown under a bus.

Linda Cardellini's character wasn't that great, but she's worth noting because she's Linda Cardellini and the reason I started watching the show on a timely basis. I loved her in earlier roles. But yeah, whenever there's an episode revolving around her character, it sucks. It's not Cardellini's fault. She makes her way the best she can with what plots she gets, but there's only so many times we can watch her son be a jackass or her boyfriend come back and do something incredibly stupid.

And now I'm remembering Susan Lewis finally. She was the original problem family character. Her sister was a dingbat and her mother was... I don't remember much about her mother, but she was crazy. And Susan had to constantly take care of them and deal with their failures and the heartache with it. She was a very sunny and optimistic character, so it worked. Whenever I hear "Blackbird," I think of Susan Lewis and her sister. Linda Cardellini was the third real Problem Family character, but I guess she didn't make it work as well as Susan Lewis (probably because her sister wasn't kidnapping her with a gun).

The second Problem Family character was Dr. Abby Lockhart. I wanted to save her for later, but I guess now's a good time. I love Maura Tierney. I loved her Newsradio and in Liar Liar. I enjoyed her a lot when I first started watching ER. But watching a lot of it... Abby's just such a drain. Sally Field's her crazy mother and she's awesome. But unlike Susan Lewis who deals with it with some hope and courage and love because she's family, Abby's always, always, always a downer. She'll be incredibly sarcastic and defeatist all the time. Whether it's with her mother or relationship or drinking problem or anything. Abby brought down the show. She was essentially the star of the middle seasons and she was like a black hole of energy. And it hurts that she has ties with practically everyone on the cast. She and Carter are good friends. She and Cardellini are good friends. She and Rasgotra and great friends. She hooks up with Kovac. She's mentored by Kerry Weaver. She and Pratt are probably good friends, but I don't remember any scenes between them like the many she has with those other people. She's just dour. And it doesn't help that most of the most offending disaster plots take place during her run on the show.

First up, one of the best lyric-less theme songs EVER:


#19. ER (1994-2009)
NBC, Drama
Choice Songs & Scenes:
Bennett & Morris Omaha: (with Miller High Life Delivery Guy tending bar)
Morris Driving:
Christmas Gift:
Set the Tone #1:
Set the Tone #2:

- ER's been a show I've been avoiding writing up for quite some time. Looking over my rankings, this is the last show to be bumped up at least twenty or thirty spots (there's one more that's risen since the thirties and it'll be soon) since the list began, but it definitely deserves a top twenty placement.

ER is about the day-to-day operation of an emergency room at Chicago's County General Hospital and the lives of its staff, patients, and passerby. It's presented in the vein of a lot of early nineties post-thirtysomething drama in that it's realistic. There's no spectacle, no gloss, no stylized drama. Yes, later on it would become known for its big disaster episodes and heavy melodrama, but the first season's biggest thriller isn't a helicopter crash, a hostage situation, or a tank driving through the wall; it's Dr. Greene trying to do childbirth. And it's a heartwrencher. It really isn't until Dr. Ross in "Hell and High Water" that there comes the once a year big story, and that's got nothing on Doctah Clemente going bat**** on the streets of Chicago (by nothing, I mean it's soooo much better).

P.S. You could also make a case for the one episode where there's a blizzard. The first half and some amazing looseness and humor since there were no patients while the second half is frenetic and thrilling because everyone who was hurt in the storm come in droves. Damn good episode.

There's definitely a rotating door for the cast, but the cool thing about the show is that so many come back for cameos or extended roles while others are there with the show for the whole fifteen even if they're not stars. There's both a level of comfort and realism to how it evolves over time. There's a great scene where Morganstern (William H. Macy) comes back in a later cameo with the old chief and it's just beautiful and really bridges gaps between years. I'd link to it if there weren't spoilers in all the related videos.

I've a good few favorites I want to mention. Dr. Carter's as main a character as you could have if only because he lasted the longest of the original cast (and came back so often after he left including a run of episodes for the final season). He was the newbie, a rich kid who went a different route from his parents and wanted to help people. Early on, he was kind of a Wesley, a know-it-all with some annoying attitudes, but very dedicated and eager to learn. He and Dr. Peter Benton are my favorite relationship of the show, and Scrubs totally based JD and Dr. Cox off these two. And Peter Benton, he of the theme song fistpump, is so damn good. He's strong and standoffish, but he delivers great, subtle drama when it's his turn. Easily one of my favorites (as all of the original cast are, except for maybe Susan) even though I can't think of any moments where he interacted with the cast besides Carter or his girlfriend.

Doug Ross (the charming and funny Clooney), Carol Hathaway (the beautiful and talented Julianna Marguiles), and Mark Greene (the "I can't believe he was Goose" Anthony Edwards) are are also big names. Susan Lewis (Sherry Stringfield) was always welcome, but she never really stood out. Ross & Hathaway were the big romance of the first seasons and it was totally charming, and the Ross/Greene friendship was fantastic. These three were the core of the show. Benton/Carter pairing was great, but these three grounded the show and were the real stars.

Bump

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bump just in case my computer goes kaput again

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Not losing this to the purge monster!

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"yeah but i seriously doubt anybody ... is going to be casually browsing through someone's credit report between bites of a baconator" - Ryoko

And this time, I don't have your write-ups, or your list, Maniac. >_<

Sorry.

Mana's List:

#20. Saturday Night Live
#21. Chuck
#22. Dragonball / Z / GT
#23. Boston Legal
#24. 24
#25. Digimon
#26. Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
#27. Veronica Mars
#28. Cheers
#29. Oz
#30. Conan (& Late Night & Tonight)
#31. Mythbusters
#32. All That
#33. Powerpuff Girls
#34. Battlebots
#35. Futurama
#36. NCIS
#37. The Drew Carey Show
#38. Castle
#39. Recess
#40. Super Samurai Shinkenger
#41. The West Wing
#42. How I Met Your Mother
#43. Iron Chef
#44. House
#45. Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger
#46. Psych
#47. Spectacular Spider-Man
#48. Monty Python's Flying Circus
#49. Batman: the Animated Series
#50. NewsRadio
#51. Dollhouse
#52. Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
#53. The Office
#54. Modern Family
#55. Looney Tunes
#56. Dexter's Laboratory
#57. Wolverine & the X-Men
#58. Parks & Recreation
#59. Supermarket Sweep
#60. Leverage
#61. The Mole
#62. Double Dare
#63. The Wonder Years
#64. Monster
#65. My So-Called Life
#66. Home Improvement
#67. South Park
#68. The Joy of Painting
#69. Gilmore Girls
#70. Jane of Arcadia
#71. Death Note
#72. Beast Wars: Transformers
#73. Prison Break
#74. Alias
#75. Tiny Toon Adventures
#76. Late Night with Jimmy Fallon
#77. Chappelle's Show
#78. Doug
#79. Cash Cab
#80. Scooby-Doo
#81. The Colbert Report
#82. So Weird
#83. Solitary
#84. Friends
#85. Flight of the Conchords
#86. Dexter
#87. Match Game
#88. X-Men
#89. The Muppet Show
#90. Pokemon
#91. Degrassi: The Next Generation
#92. The Adventures of Pete & Pete
#93. The Magic School Bus
#94. Jeopardy!
#95. Legends of the Hidden Temple
#96. Muppet Babies
#97. Arthur
#98. Robot Chicken
#99. The Price is Right
#100. Rugrats

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Abed: No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff.

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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

"Was it shown beforehand that a blind spot existed within the study for Natsuhi? If it wasn't shown, this theory will not be permitted. Knox's 8th. It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not PRESENTED...!!!"
- New Knox. *adds to list I should write soon*
- Missed!

"When we entered the study, its structure was clearly referred to."
'It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that Kinzo's study was a small villa he had created inside the mansion' 'A study. A book archive. A place to sleep. And a bathroom and washroom. It was divided into multiple rooms'
- Time exploded into life. I like that.
- And now Battler's calling to Beatrice. Man, Lambdadelta's made one hell of a chaotic game.
- Man, Erika's acting just like a prosecutor or culprit in a Pheonix Wright game IMO. Down to the 'Gyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggghhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!'
- Aww, Battler caught Beatrice. How sweet it is to be loved by you.
- ...And Gaap spoils the moment. Go away.
- Yo yo yo. Battler and Beatrice gonna take down Erika!
- I'm still kind of stunned that Kyrie and Rudolf are totally cool with their kid jumping three stories. Imagine this room without any witches or higher-level plane. They're all cornering Natsuhi because they know Kinzo's likely dead and she's hiding it, Erika's loving cornering Natsuhi in her lies, then Battler speaks up, saves Natsuhi's story and takes a reckless leap out the window to prove it. Now, not only are they totally cool with their kid doing that (of course he's fine so it's cool), but they've totally forgotten that their witch-hunt against Natsuhi and the inheritance conspiracy has been foiled, even if temporarily. It's just... a weird shift that's completely hidden by all the multi-planed conversation. Very cool, but it makes no sense thinking about it for too long.
- Nothing strange at all.
- There we go! Some genuine concern! Thank you, Rudolf!
- "I have LOST." Crap, Answers is back. And now I want to watch some first season goodness... dammit. It's useless! It's all USELESS!

"Ushiromiya Kinzo escaped from the study through the window when Natsuhi oba-san couldn't see him. Natsuhi oba-san didn't notice and locked the window. This way, Natsuhi oba-san saw Grandfather go to bed, and Grandfather was able to escape from the study without contradicting the lock of the window or the door sealed by the receipt. I have just demonstrated that it was physically possible for him to escape. Therefore, this battle is over!!"

--
I spent a good portion of the last two innings thinking "thank god we switched Papelbon from closer". - Maniac64

"After Grandfather jumped out the window, Natsuhi oba-san probably noticed a slight draft. she then approached the window, realized that it was wide open, and quickly closed and locked it...!!"
- ****ing giant KINZOFACE CLOSE-UP. Oh well, for some reason, it's not as bad as it used to be. This game is completely desensitizing me. Plus, Bern's wide-eyed looks are scarier, same for Eva.
"Natsuhi probably couldn't even imagine that I had slipped out the window!"
"Yeah!! So it's only natural that Natsuhi oba-san thought Kinzo was sleeping in bed!!"

- Cordelia uses the blue truth!
"Be that as it may, this is the third floor...! How could a wingless human escape from the window......?!!"
- Oh, Cornelia, can you pick out the one word you probably shouldn't have said?
- KINZOFACE
"This is the answeeeeeeeer (why do people get heeeeeaaaled while others are allowed to diiiiiieeeee) aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!! (we're so freaking confused!)"
- Holy crap, Battler jumped. BATTLERRRR!!!
- Battler vs. Dlanor in a battle of LIFE and DEATH. Not impressed by the music though. Possibly because I've now got "Answeeeerrrs" stuck in my head. I should check out more from Rhett and Link after this. Maybe just the Taco Folk Song and Driving Songs.
- I'm more curious what Rudolf's and Kyrie's reactions are like... their son just jumped out a three-story window

THE FIGHT IS ON!!

- Blue wedges pierce Dlanor in her neck, chest, gut, foot, and thigh. Will she be able to use the red truth to come back from Beatrice's blue massacre?
- lol envy
- Oof, this will kill a bunch of arguments if Natsuhi repeats. I like this two-pronged attack.

The 'Kinzo' - Oh shut up. You're like Sigourney Weaver in Galaxy Quest. You're just repeating everything that's already been said.
- Kinzo is Kinzo, Natsuhi spoke with him in the same room at 23:00. Epic failure.

Maybe he's under the bed?!
A check of that place has bloody well been FINISHED
Maybe he's in the bathtub!!
A check of that pwace has been FINISHED.
Inside the closet! Under the desk! Behind the curtains!!
HOLY **** DLANOR IS A SAMURAI PIZZA CAT
A-check-of-that-place-has-been-FINISHED. Check FINISHED-OM. Check FINITHED BEATIEPOO.
Behind the bookshelf, behind the closet, under the carpet, under the floor, above the ceiling, behind the wallpaper, inside the sofa, inside the chair, inside the bed, inside the blankets, inside the walls, inside a rock, inside a stone, inside the room!! On the bed, on the floor, on a towel by the door, in the tub, in the car, up against the mini-bar!!
You're ****ing MATT DAMON?
MATT DAMON!
MATT DAMON!
Wait, what?
Oh. Right. CHECK OUT MY CRAZY-EYED COMBO, LADY BEATRICE!

CheckFINISHED checkFINISHED checkFINISHED
checkcheckcheck FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED
checkcheckcheckcheckcheckcheckcheckcheck
FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED
FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED
<Die The death>!
<Sentence to death>!
<Great equalizer is The Death>!!"

- tl;dr: "I did not find him here nor there, I did not find him ANYWHERE. He is not anywhere in this room, these Red Truths shall be your DOOM!!!"
- I think I preferred her with the cat eyes.
- Detective erika's on the case! Kinzo is not in the room. He was never here. Not last night. Natsuhi... is LYING!
- I wonder how Gaap would've gotten out of it? Probably wouldn't. GOOD JOB BEATRICE! ALLOWING GAAP TO LIVE >_<
- Battler... is angry.
- "It's useless." Cue soundtrack!
- "then the detective is also third-rate." OH SNAP! GAME ON!
- The one thing I'm not liking about this round of play is how breached all the planes are. Here we're skipping between human plane, just behind the veil, witches' plane, game's tea room, and I'm sure in a few clicks, we'll be seeing Lambda and Bern and Meta-Battler in the central hub... it's not that it's disorienting, it's just oddly put together.
- Aw yeah Kyrie
- Aw **** you game. I surely thought there wouldn't be any KINZOFACE this time around. Dammit.

"You cannot leave through the door without Natsuhi thinking something was odd. Natsuhi did not hear the sound of the door opening while in the room. Kinzo entering or exiting through the door will not be permitted."
- But what about THE WINDOW?! Also, Gertrude is tall and blonde and Cronelia's the bobbed brunette.
- Battler's about to pounce tackle huggle cutie Cornelia!


- So freaking good. Took me about half an hour just to figure out what it was =P. Glad to see Regaro gave it a 9.5 (and the original a 10).

"Window is sealed from the inside and Natsuhi did not let Kinzo escape...!!
- No, but she probably checked to make sure the window was closed!

"Natsuhi oba-san didn't let Grandfather escape. ...What if Grandfather snuck out, keeping it a secret from Natsuhi oba-san?!"
- Screw you, Kinzoface.

"The window was locked from the inside!!"
- Love the Kinzo/Battler close-up grin

I stop whenever I decide to see what the board is up to. And yes, it usually comes at the most random, inopportune moments. But hey, great cliffhangers leave me wanting to come back fast! There's no Ange this time around =D

--
Sir Chris has replaced Metroid Composite.
Sir Chris has been killed. He was a Marine, Town Vanilla (KN1)

"Proof is unnecessary!! It's a Devil's Proof. It's impossible to find a hidden door and therefore impossible to disprove that it exists!! Therefore, no one can deny the possibility that Kinzo escaped from this study through a hidden door!!"

"I will not allow a hidden door to exist in this ROOM."
- Just because you won't allow it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I will not allow you to go out and see so-and-so. "Well I'm going anyway!" If you leave now, you're no longer welcome int his house! "WELL THEN I'M LEAVING *slam*" See? you can not allow something to happen and it still does... yeah >_>

"Knox's 3rd. It is forbidden for hidden passages to exist."
- Well fffff... forgotten about those awesome things.

"It's possible that, after slipping out the door, Kinzo noticed the trick with the receipt and correctly returned it to its original place."

"Denial of that with the red has already been FINISHED. After 23:00, the door to the study was not opened even ONCE."

"Kinzo might have been a marvelous magician and an inventor, right?! He might have invented a d..."
- Did Beatrice and Battler both attend the same Blue Truthing school? So Kinzo is Count Dracula now?

"No such drug EXISTS. It must not EXIST."
- Unknown drug or invention. Knox's 4th?

"Or maybe he invented a teleport device, right?! The possibility is impossible to deny because of the Devil's Proof!!!"
- Here comes Knox.

"Such a machine does not EXIST. I will not allow it to EXIST."
- More back and forth regarding the incoming Knox statement. It's just conversation in blue.
- Yup, Knox's 4th! OH YEAH
- NEW MUSIC! BEATRICE STEPS UP!

"Natsuhi claims to have 'talked with Kinzo in the study', but she never said that she spoke with him face to face. Therefore, if Kinzo was in a location other than the study, there is no contradiction as long as they held a conversation!"
- Well played.

"Natsuhi used the internal phone line in this study to speak with Kinzo, who was in another place! There's nothing strange about Kinzo, who hates the relatives, predicting thaty they would enter his study and leaving to go elsewhere. He might have gone to the hidden mansion, Kuwadorian!"
- Never go against a Golden Witch when a witches' game is on the line!!!
- I have a feeling Beatrice will shoot herself in the foot. Loser Flags keep popping up.

"There's a chance the Kinzo Natsuhi mentioned does not refer to the person himself! The Kinzo Natsuhi spoke of might have been another name for this room, right? Kinzo had taken refuge in Kuwadorian and was impossible to contact. Perhaps Natsuhi called this room 'Father', and by contemplating the inside of it, she felt as though she received some sort of revelation from Kinzo!!"

"Even if, as you say, this is a closed room and impossible to escape from, you can't deny the possibility that he is still hiding in this room. I'm not talking about a hidden door! He might be under the bed or above the ceiling! He might be hiding in a truly unobtrusive blind spot that only demons could know of, right?!"

"Or it might be that Natsuhi, who was ordered to speak specially on Kinzo's behalf, considered herself both his representative and another Kinzo! In other words, it's possible that Natsuhi was also Kinzo!"

"I've got plenty more!! At 23:00 last night, Kinzo escaped out the window! Natsuhi watched him go, then locked the window!! This doesn't lead to any problems. In fact, it might be the most beautiful blue truth yet!"
- IB red slashes everywhere

Whoops. Four days? That ain't right. Now where are we?

- Courtyard, ladder. Gohda's gonna climb up and check on Kinzo and bcause of walls, there's little to no wind affecting it despite the sountrack where the wind is blowing 80mph
- Gohda's awesome
- Aw, father-son bonding
- Rudolf the action hero... wait, skating prowess?
- And now he sings? XD
- Kyrie's just trying to inch it out of those two. She knows that they know that something isn't right.
- I like that. "Soldiers scaling the ramparts"
- Bronove surprised face!
- Dammit! It's a great move, I 'spose, but do NOT do it to save Gaap! No. Beatrice, you don't do that! Let Gaap get burned!
- Huh. I thoguht Gohda would be going up the ladder.
- You know what's cooler than being cool? Ice cold!
- "Culprit-san" and there goes the music!
- Of course, Mary Sue has a photographic memory. Of course she does. *eyerolls at Bern*
- You can prove that someone exists, but you can't prove that someone doesn't exist.
- Alibis are important.
- It was me! A clue! Changing stories! Another clue!
- Hide what? What's this trump card? I'm on the edge of my seat!
- Erika denies Kinzo's existence so casually, then wicked music pops up as Beatrice enters the fray! HELL YEA
- XD. "Ayatsuji Yukito doesn't make his debut until next year." XD XD

"You can't deny the possibility that Natsuhi met with Kinzo at 23:00. During the following six hours or more before you pushed your way into the study, Kinzo had many chances to escape this study! Because of this, you can't state decisively that Kinzo doesn't exist."
- Dlanor?
- Clockwork noises. The wedge against time truths? Dlanor will counter or undermine the 23:00 position?
- NAME? Dlanor A. Knox is my NAME? Also, golden eyes. That's new.
- Woo! My first tip!
- 'Wizard-Hunting Wright?' Oh please, pelase, pelase let him be who I want him to be!!!
- Nice verbal tic there, Dlanor. Are you a Go-Onger villain or a recruitable character in Chrono Cross?
- Summarize 600 pages into six letters? Interesting...
- exe'cute'd, lulz, i get it
- I wish there was the veil separating Beatrice's plane and the plane of the game right now. It's a bit distracted seeing these three duke it out in Kinzo's study when you know everyone else is standing right there. I'll just chalk it up to Codec-speak then.
- And Natsuhi's there too. o_O. She really is insane.
- EVAFACE!!!! >_< >_< >_<
- Who's this champion? Dlanor's underlings?
- Accordance 1516..... THE NUMBERS ARE BAD! DON'T OPEN THE HATCH! THE NUMBERS ARE BAD! THE NUM- oh right, wrong thing. Sorry.
- So the Siesta Sisters work with Dlanor's heaven security?
- Allow you to speak? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? Er... Who the hell are YOU?

"From last night at 23:00 until the present time, the study door was not opened even once."
- why is...
- Oh snap, Eva's paper! First game reprisal! Eva checking up on Natsuhi and playing her part! Hell yea callbacks rule!
- Who the hell are you?! More security guards?

"The windows were all locked!"
- Eiserne Jungfrau... what the ****? Forbidden weapons? What the hell is going on? Did Bern just, like, rain down the FBI on Beatrice's game? What the ****?
- Red Warhead? Oh ****, five seconds til EPIC MUSIC DETONTATION!
- XD. Password's not in caps, XD. Siesta Sisters, for once, will not be bottom-ranked this game just for that
- Angels? What is this, Supernatural? Angels only come into existence NOW? Bet they're all dicks, too.

Ffff... I can't believe I forgot to bump

--
Abed: It's the first season of Lost on DVD. Pierce: That's the meaning of Christmas?
Abed: No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff.

Doubtful tonight.

--
"yeah but i seriously doubt anybody ... is going to be casually browsing through someone's credit report between bites of a baconator" - Ryoko

Nothing tonight, sorry.

--
"well its a mega mana topic so it'll obviously be high quality" - Ryokles

The victims aren't actually dead. They pretended to be dead, then secretly hid somewhere. After all, you haven't proclaimed anyone's deaths with the red truth."
- Yes, because you can fake giant open neck wounds.
- Ha! See! Lambda agrees with me! At least the faces could be an excellent use of makeup or masking. Neck wounds would be some crazy CGI or smoke and mirrors trick. IT'S ALL A TRICK! Mr. Satan for Umineko Episode 6!
- Ha! Withholding red truth. Well-played.

"Krauss carried the corpses off and hid them. You've acted it out so that it looks like you've kidnapped Krauss and locked him up somewhere, but he might actually be free. Krauss has no alibi. Krauss hid their corpses."
- Excellent postulation. I hadn't speculated that, but it's a very sound theorem. As it's so early, I doubt the way the story goes will let that be the case, though. Unchecked though.

"The corpses were different people in the first place. They were substitute corpses just like the victims. George and the others were hiding from the beginning, and later cleared up those substitute corpses. These corpses were dead from the very beginning, so they don't count towards the number of people on the island."
- Uh... that's messed up.
- Yeah, what Lambda said.
- I'm not certain how to explain the corpses. Indeed, somebody could have been palying dead, like Genji. Or maybe somebody lagged behind while they all went after Natsuhi (think one of the answers in Clue when they discovered the cook). Or maybe Krauss did move them all, but it's doubtful.
- Could be Kanon and his mighty blade >_>
- I suspect Genji to be faking and that this bit with him and Gaap is a fake-out, much like Natsuhi talking with Kinzo/Beatrice or Eva with Hideyoshi in game three when she's really off killing a bunch of people someplace else and Hideyoshi covers for her.
- You need to shut up, you. Dammit, where'd I put my Stake cheatsheet? Yeah, shut up... Asmodeus! You can go away too!
- Need to read more about Three Kingdoms. So many things are modeled after their stories. Wei, Wu, and Shu, all defeated by Jin. THANKS FOR SPOILING ME! =P
- Chapter end.

It is now 8:04.

- Lol Natsuhi. "You're being too loud!" *facepalm*
- <3 Gohda, forgetting that he even lives here
- lol Natsuhi is rip****
- Hmm, I wonder what happens to all of the food Gohda prepares for Kinzo every day.
- 23:00 last night is Kinzo's last reported sighting
- Both keys are in the study. Interesting. HOW DO YOU SOLVE DIS?
- XD Erika is such a *****
- Natsuhi tipping her hand sooo much
- Battler putting an end to Erika's manaical love for mystery. I wish someone *****slapped me when I got too kooky with my ideas. But then, we might not have had Dan defeating Dahaka or Fastball Special to beat up Sephiroth and Luca Blight! PONY GARDEN WOOOO!
- BOOK COUNTERS BOOK! WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?! I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE APPARENTLY I HAVE NO GRIMOIRE
- Definitely a Hold it! moment for Battler.
- I don't get it. What's so funny?
- LADDERS! Finally.
- You don't have a ladder long enough? Then how do you clean roof?
- Lol Gohda, so proud. Even thoguh Kanon's purposefully sabotaging the long ladder's existence.
- Shannon and Nanjo, too, far too protective
- XD Gohda. "Hahahahahaha... huh?!" How is he so awesome?

--
I spent a good portion of the last two innings thinking "thank god we switched Papelbon from closer". - Maniac64

- Right, gotta wait for the twinkle sound. Now portraits updated. Still two corpses left to find. Who were they? Genji aaaand... Shannon?
- So whoever killed them likely did it before Battler got back. He was out until around 3AM. Rosa left around 1AM IIRC to be with Maria while Krauss & Natsuhi may have never come back after midnight unless I'm remembering things wrong. Natsuhi locked herself in some time after 3AM. Therefore, Natsuhi still could have pulled off the murders earlier in the night. Krauss also. Genji, too, if I suspect him imitating the 19-year-old, not Lambda. Lud... oh yeah, he's dead too soon, isn't he?
- There's the first circle again. We see it foten, but we usually don't take note of the bars or the others in these later games. Hope they show up.
- Giant Erika eyes. I swear,e veryone's eyes are getting bigger every game.

"Detective's authority. ...The detective has the right to inspect all crime scenes. Stand back, Ushiromiya Battler. This is an official right of this game, which the human side has acknowledged."
- I'd be like, "*****! YOU JUST SAID THIS WAS A GAME?!" Also, red truth in human world. Didn't Lambda just say that was impossible?

"Because I am the detective."
- lol
- Stakes are back! And someone's mimicking Beatrice. Not. Her. Doing. Or the Stakes are just clueless abotu the higher plane.
- Damn, why is Gohda so awesome this round?
- COMPLIMENTING SHANNON INSTEAD OF FOULING HER UP?!?!?! O_O_O_O_O NOW I'VE SEEN EVERYTHING
- All four servants besides Genji? But who was fifth? I don't want to cheat and look it up... I'ma ctually going to be very surprised. It seems everybody but Natsuhi, Krauss, and obviously Kinzo are accounted for. Natsuhi is definitely still alive, I rmeember Kinzo alive, so... Krauss? Whoa.
- Kanon and Kumasawa are going to get quite a shock! ^_^
- Duct tape? A sealed room XD
- I wonder what was written. "Hey Battler, hope you enjoy this sealed room! XOXO"
- There's the screechy scream I expected with the teeth.
- And more teeth.
- "Wh, what's going on? Battler solved the riddle of the epitaph, right? Why are murders occurring?!"
- XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD. <3 Gluttony. I've forgotten all your names, but Gluttony, never change. Gohda! Get back to the herb omelets!
- ... -_-
- Krauss!
- Hide-and-seek? Krauss-napped?
- New music
- Say it in red Lambda! Say you can't use the external line in red!
- Seriously. Are there supposed to be Tips or a Grimoire right now? Because I'm getting jack.
- Erika's a *****!
- The other two? Why would you even question the other two?
- Oy. Too quick.
- Beatrice is piiiissed.
- Natsuhi to be taken! ooooooh the chase
- Blood, but no corpse.
- lol, shutting down key arguments fast. Locks are meaningless.
- I love these quick looks before the scene change. Bern & Lambda, Erika and Battler.
- I honestly feel like I'm watching the end of Clue right now with all this running about.
- The corpses, the beds... gone?!
- No deaths in red... despite the giant gaping neck wounds
- Time for Blue Truth! Also, timestamp for Regaro. YOU KNOW WHEN THIS IS! I think.

THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 3:01AM & 5:00AM ON THE DAY OF THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Oh ****, guesthouse time. So many dead bodies incoming.
- Or... not? Hey there Gohda and Nanjo. Nanjo and Gohda, bros for life.
- "If I tell you about this, I'll probably be killed?" Whoa, why am I thinking of Episode 1 again? He knew he was getting killed then too. I'll probably be dead in the morning. No I needs to go put on my makeup. Could... he be the killer? But faked deaths... gah.
- Battler's birth...
- XD, I thought it was still Battler for a sec. "Why are you taking pregnancy pills, Battler?! Do you want a chest set of your own to fondle?"
- Oh damn, the kid's an orphan.
- Oh damn, they died!
- Beatrice making up stories... why? Because it's all a game. A way of dealing with something. What's Battler using Beatrice for that he's blaming himself for?
- Well, now we know why the front page is a rocky cliff face. Natsuhi's adopted child died here.
- O_O... three days? Holy crap. That's... holy crap. No one else knew abotu the baby but she and Kinzo... and the woman who died, and probably Genji & Kumasawa...
- Kinzo? You feelin' okay there buddddy?
- Krauss knew too. Okay.
- Lambdadelta as the son or Lambdadelta as the GM? ...As Lambadelta. Nice trickery! ..So if you can change your voice to anyone else's... no.. but that would mean witches exist.
- Hypothetically speaking, if a witch talking into the phone sounding as somebody else could be grounded in reality somehow, then Jessica and Kyrie may have been dead for a lot longer (or shorter) than we know. If Battler's the only true witness, then if the phone calls are fabrications, then... they all could have died whenever. Or soemthing. I'm not sure. Maybe someone was making stuff up talking back on the phone. Whatever. Just made-up phone calls could apply retroactively and I'm noting it without any clarity.
- Battler's probably sitting in the corner kneading a headache right now.
- October 5th looks to be a doozy!

DAWN OF THE SECOND DAY
= 19 HOURS REMAIN =
- Lawl, "law of summer camp awakenings"
- 7:00 already?
- Should've shaken them awake Battler? Or will the music suddenly change as soon as I got the next scene after, "And then, that dimly lit morning ended." What's next? Horror music and blood everywhere? A couple of dead bodies? Or is he just referring to the light..
- ****, IT'S THE TEETH. And wow... just the teeth. No reference, no music going out of control, no blood drip. Nice. I like it. Just pale, white shock.
- And here's Eva with some violin.
- Ouch.
- "I feel bad abotu the ones we can't cover." Looks like some more were discovered besides George. But when they change the portraits dammit?
- Jessica's dead there, too. More neck-slicing >_<
- Wait... Maria?! Oh... wow, did not expect Maria. ...Oh, right, both Rosa and... wait... Rosa?

...

...

So... Rosa's dead already?

...

...

Where's this Rosa "best Mom Ever! Just see Episode 5" then if she's already dead? All she's done is beat up her kid off-camera after that phone call.

Re-tag three

--
Sir Chris has replaced Metroid Composite.
Sir Chris has been killed. He was a Marine, Town Vanilla (KN1)

Battler-kun isn't the culprit. Battler-kun didn't kill anyone. This can be said of all games.
- No ****, Sherlock. The Detective isn't the culprit. And he was the detective the first four games.

Her goal is not to make someone experience fear. And it isn't to have revenge on someone either.
- Is it... love? Memory?
- X+Y>0. Together, they have meaning. Weight.

Beato never committed murder for the sake of pleasure.
- Yet, you cannot deny she took pleasure in it. She had to carry it out regardless, but she definitely had fun with it in a game or two.
- D'awww


THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 11:49PM & 12:04AM ON THE DAY BEFORE THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Oh Natsuhi. What a tangled, desperate web you weave.
- All that needs to happen here is Battler to figure out and say, solemnly, "Grandfather is dead... isn't he?" I'm kind of hoping it does.
- All the 'sophisticated' music is really Jessica's demo tracks. Kinzo loves hearing his granddaughter sing when her parents aren't paying attention. PETTAN PETTAN TSURU PETTAN. And no, I have no idea why I'm so obsessed with noting that song this game. It was a one-off from Episode 2 that's still clinging despite complete irrelevance.
- No! Don't go Genji! You'll be killed!!!
- Hey Shannon! Long time no see! I really hope you aren't Gaap, because that would mean I hate your twinner and that you steal things from the mansion (like that mirror on that outcropping)!
- Americandy XD XD XD! MORE MEAT! Where's the beef or Hill Shire Frams Go Meat? Or two all-beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun. Or the Tender Crisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch! Or perhaps, . ? And no... none of those guys eating twenty pounds of bacon, bacon-cooked turduckens in lard and cheese and everything else. No.
- Kanon and Shannon, sacrifices for the sake of boredom!
- Oh noes, who is at the door? DUN DUN DUN
- Wait, what? *wakes up to Huey Lewis & the News* Doc? Doc?
- Great Scott! Another phone call? It is you from the future!
- Clock sounds sped up here.
- ....There's no one on the other end, is there? This neglected child is really Natsuhi... no, but Genji says she's getting called, so... hmm... I still think she's talking to herself somehow.
- Her, Mother, what's your favorite scary movie?
- O_o
- Cards under clocks, Natsuhi's a murderer. Neat-freak mothert who makes Mystery Person X want to vomit... oh... ****.... she's talking to an aborted fetus, isn't she?
- **** is going down up in here.
- Must've been Krauss mocking a servant and leaving the envelope.
- Battler, don't wear the ring! I know it's very tempting.

--
I spent a good portion of the last two innings thinking "thank god we switched Papelbon from closer". - Maniac64

- The riddle is a lock. Interesting. The game is also a lock of some sort, no? But what does the game, and denying witches, unlock? Would it be the cruel twist of fate that Battler is dead and there's no coming back from it? Or perhaps he killed everyone? Or perhaps he's the last witness and is catatonic somewhere. Could be the future. PETTAN PETTAN TSURUPETTAN.
- I predict a riot! I predict a riot!


THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 10:48PM & 11:49PM ON THE DAY BEFORE THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Eva's here to show you up, Natushi. Like always.
- Direct, simple, to the point.
- Go go, Genji. I will be so sad when you die in the next few hours.
- Wait, what? Beatrice, what loophole are you using? Evatrice was t least a power-crazy family-killing horror. How will you justify the game this time?
- I recognize that room. The dinner party were fleeing from goats and Kanon was cutting bars with his blade there. So the gold is in the tunnels beneath the second mansion?
- Oh, Natsuhi and Krauss. Your greed will destroy us all.
- *facepalm*
- XD, Hey, you're the two that brought up Kinzo. Getting caught in your wed of lies, deceit, and greed.
- XD, Battler's shameface at the bickering
- Oh noes, someone's gonna steal the gold if you leave
- Mmm, just helped with supper tonight. Fish, sweet potatoes, and parsnips. So good.
- Yeah, don't make up things on your onw, like deciding Kinzo is still alive (since talks to herself and is alllll alone).
- *clunk*


This child has nothing to gain from having someone solve the epitaph.
The gold of the Golden Land belongs to this child. She had absolutely no need to make you find it for her or to snatch it away herself.
- The epitaph is there for the high-risk, high-reward value to her magic. If there isn't a chance for the other side to win, there's no risk involved.
Whether the epitaph's riddle is solved or not, this child stands to gain nothing at all.
- I'm not liking the "this child" usage. Virgilia's up to something. She has yet to mention Beatrice by name in these red truths. Who is 'this child'?
Regardless of whether the epitaph is solved or not, Beato has nothing to gain.
- My blue hypothesis took a hit, but again, She is a Beatrice. Beato is only a nickname and could appl... oh god, I'm turning into Battler.
- X=Y
- Y=0
- X=0?
- Or does Y not equal 0 because Beato doesn't actually lose anything either? The epitaph... is a deception? The murders will continue anyway... until the riddle's conclusion or until... until what?
- By raising the difficulty, she gets more points!
- First: benefit culprit receives by following epitaph and thereby confusing evidence and alibis
- - - playing possum and acting a victim
- - - committing murders that don't follow and making others get order wrong for an alibi
- Second: Coincidence, no intention just looks similar to the epitaph. Humans mistake it for what it isn't. Not coincidence due to letters and advance notice
- Third: To show someone sotmhing / make them feel fear. But whom?
- Strawberry shortcake. The strawberry gets saved for last. The victim, intended target, remains until the end. Battler?!
- The worst way to kill someone is to 'start by killing the people closest to them, make them feel sadness, then kill that person in the end.' a.k.a. Umineko a.k.a. Purgatory
- Let's see...
first game: Battler, Jessica, George, Maria, Natsuhi.
Second game: Battler, Kinzo, Genji?, uh... Rosa, Maria?.
Third: Eva. Well, Eva, Battler, Jessica, Nanjo... and George, perhaps? Eva, Battler, Nanjo, Jessica... huh. Who was fifth?
Fourth: Battler, Maria, Kinzoface. Gohda and Kumasawa were killed at an unknown time, and Kyrie, IIRC, was last of the dinner party abductees to die. Of course, the order could be all screwed up through the storytelling. Only Jessica and Kyrie through their phone calls can be determined.

THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 10:00PM & 10:48PM ON THE DAY BEFORE THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Natsuhi's talking to herself again. Poor girl. Stop talking to Female Tyler Durden.
- You can bring back pieces to life in Shogi? What?
- Oh noes! Kinzo is gone! Where could he be?!
- Yes, you should be sorry. Don't interrupt again. Go away, Gaap.
- No, Natsuhi. Don't entertain her rpesence. Go away.
- Oh, look, time for incineration!
- No, it isn't. Go away.
- Ha, okay, that was worth Gaap's entrance. Natsuhi losing her mirror or maybe even Scor...
- Oh... it's just Beato's stuff we've never heard of or cared about. **** off. Go away, Gaap.
- Hmm, where is this taking place? I don't recognize the background and the noise seemed like opening/closing the garage. Battler looks like he's on the moon.
- Ooh, Gouge is solved? Nice work! Too bad we missed all of it since we were paying attention to ****ing Gaap.
- Hmm? Mistake welcoming her? Something's going to happen... ...oh Beatrice.
- A dead expression.
- It will be a blank, shocked, fishy-faced dead-eyed stare, Erika.
- <3 Erika.
- Ha. She changed her reasoning from simply solving a riddle to rubbing it in Jessica's face. Whiel wearing Jessica's clothes. And stealing her probable future as head of the family.
- Silhouette! SLENDER MAN
- ...Whoa... wait... what? ...That... is the person I least expected to be there, if only because of the history Battler has with no encountering magical persons or illusions. But I guess since Battler isn't helming the game, he doesn't have that huge toxin build-up. Kinzo. Huh. I like it.
- Damn good scene. And no Kinzoface! Woo!

"This mountain of gold is the real thing. All of the ingots piled up here are real, pure gold! There are absolutely no tricks such as replicas or fakes!!

- Whoa... hmm... hmm... wait. So... if Bernkastel is the detective this game could Battler be the killer? It'd be a nice twist, and a nice heartbreaking realization twist towards the end while battler's in control. There are no clues towards it yet, it's just a curious, idle thought.
- "I only felt as though Grandfather and I had exchanged words." Like it.

"I was probably in an excited state after solving the epitaph's riddle. Then I mistook something for Grandfather. For exam...
- Seriously Battler? Seriously?
For example, maybe that was some kind of sheet or cover that had gotten caught in a dark grove of trees, which looked like Grandfather was wearing a pitch black cloak! As a result, I mistakenly thought that I'd had some sort of conversation with Grandfather."
- ...
- ...
- ...
- ...
- I have no doubt Meta-Battler's going to drop a lot in my rankings unless he's the complete badass he suually is by the end of games. Hell, for the first time ever, In-Game Battler's likely to beat him. Obviously, he didn't mistake anything physical for Kinzo nor was there magic involved. He was voercome with pride at solving the epitaph and imagined such a feeling as his Grandfather smiling at him and accepting him. It was a feeling that was blessed, that he had his Grandfather's blessings and eprmission to solve the epitaph. Much like how if you really succeed in something, you feel like you've done somebody proud. Not a ****ing sheet.
- Battler's stupidity is fun when it's bombs in the Halloween dinner. Not when he's jsut being an idiot. Yeah. I stand by my theory everyone else is also playing their own versions of the game and Battler's the only one taking forever to finish.
- Yeah, Lambda has no counter to it because she's secretly laughing at you. There's NO response to what you said. None. It's wrong on so many levels it doesn't need a red truth, and if you stand by your blue, you are dumb. You are really dumb. For real.

Note to self: Must make time for this.

*looks over at Legend of Snake, Save my DC, Suikoden II, Team Fortress 2, end of MErcs 3 hype, TV Rankings topic, current TV Tropes splurge, 500 pages left of Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets due back to library tomorrow, and Treme/Game of Thrones/Breaking Bad S1-3 want-to-watches*

Baaaaaaaah.

Go crazy while I see if I can end the day.

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"Wolverine received no points whatsoever." ~ HolyExcalibur on Board 8's Top 100 Fictional Characters of 2010

If already recorded or on its way, this is good for next week assuming we're still in. Sorry about the day lateness.

vRHP
1. R. Theriot (SS)
2. K. Youkilis (3B)
3. R. Braun (LF)
4. J. Thome (DH)
5. T. Hunter (CF)
6. J. Mauer (C)
7. M. Prado (2B)
8. D. Lee (1B)
9. A. Rios (RF)

vLHP
1. R. Theriot (SS)
2. A. Rios (RF)
3. K. Youkilis (3B)
4. R. Braun (LF)
5. T. Hunter (DH)
6. J. Mauer (C)
7. M. Prado (2B)
8. D. Lee (1B)
9. A. Pagan (CF)

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"Guys, until I can find the queue without modding myself, I think you'll be okay.
No guarantees about the others though." - Ngirl

- Evatrice, game three? Grandfather's beloved hometown. Not Odawara. Where he lived and loved as a boy, yet it's not spoken of in any fragment? Could it be the second mansion?
- A riddle being hard is a hint? Or... 'no point to it'?
- Sweetfish is an excellent hint, but they aren't sweetfish? I hope when this riddle is solved, I'll feel dumb for not knowing the answer, that I could've gotten it beforehand if I worked at it and it wasn't completely random.
- ...So...
- Six characters...
- Oh damn... this is... this is nuts... I fell like I'm on episode 1 again, all excited by the epitaph but with no idea where we're going in it
- XD, Erika. "Good work, Battler. A string of six characters." In before Battler's like: "Wait, what? I didn't say anything."
- ...Oh my god, it's like one of those puzzles. "Remove all the words that have three E's. Switch the 4th letter and 6th letter around."
- 11 or 13 likely English characters? Huh?
- XD Bern, "Isn't it nice I made you look so smart?"
- Whoa, speaking of Kinzo was dead all along... he never threw the ring out the window.
- Second episode Beatrice painting. <3
- Hmm... well, if Kinzo was dead the previous year, the riddle isn't just abotu succeeding him after his death. Why this year? Does it have to do with Battler coming back to attend the family conference? Does it have to do with what Battler did six years prior? ...IIRC, Battler had no idea about the riddle so it was established within the six-year span of his absence. Therefore, Battler is likely a cause for the riddle and inheritance existence. ...Did... Is it a punishment? Or did Battler do something to greatly impress Kinzo so that he devised this special circumstance and riddle for Battler to solve so he would be the inheritor? If so, he kind of failed at it. Battler IO mean. Kinzo does this special thing for Battler to win at, and he sucks. He got a lobotomy in his six years. This is all about getting Battler to solve the epitaph, perhaps?
- And the epitaph is also the game. To solve the game would be to solve the epitaph, and solving the epitaph within the game would lead to hints about how to really solve the game. And once Battler solves the game and kills Beatrice, he is rewarded?
- The captail where the gold dwells. The Capital? Capital letter?
- Like the Tokyo & Kyoto... anagram!!! The Noble Name? ...Nah. But Ougon Kyou to Kyou to Kyoto. It's neat.
- Would looking through the bookshelves be a journey? Could be.
- "It's an atlas."

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I spent a good portion of the last two innings thinking "thank god we switched Papelbon from closer". - Maniac64

THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 7:00PM & 9:48PM ON THE DAY BEFORE THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Ha! I like that. If you flip the chessboard over, Erika's running the show (and Krauss is the lowest in rank after a dead body)... dead body... if it's true that what happens before a game is usually what happens before most or all games, as I suspect, only Natsuhi, Krauss, Genji, Kanon, Shannon, Nanjo, and Kumasawa knew about Kinzo's dead body. Therefore, every game he ends up in the incinerator with only six toes showing, I expect one them to have done the deed. I could be wrong. Eva could still be the culprit or Battler is Jack's colon, but it seems that if they knew about Kinzo's body, then they can set things up.
- Mmm, time to eat Maria's rose! Hopefully with some mackerel!
- lol Hideyoshi
- lol chopsticks
- donburi? gyuudon? Where the hell are my tips and grimoire!
- Okay, this is just awesome. Hideyoshi, Kyrie, Erika, and Gohda, sooo good.
- lol poor Jessica
- C'mon, Chopstick Fight! XD eating fail
- Gohda is getting a lot of attention this game, but at least he's cool about it. No Shannon abuse like the first game.
- Spilling the gold to Erika already? Pssh, she'll solve it in a few minutes.
- Riddle to the people of the mansion, though... HOW WOULD SHE KNOW IF KINZO PUBLISHED IT IN A NEWSPAPER OR NOT?!
- Everyone loves Erika. Such a Mary Sue, but she's awesome so far. Jealous Jess
- <Good>
- lol Maria. Can't imagine her hyped up on coffee
- I gave up and stopped thinking because this game would go forward anyway. Plus, if it's on Rokkenjima, I'm not on Rokkenjima and can't see where or if any of these locations exist
- Oh crap, it's going to get solved? Um, um, it's in the basement sewer under the second mansion! Why? Because.. .that's where Eva found it. How? ...Uh, um...
- Looney Toons physics
- Whoa what were those scenes? ...Damn, my last save is back before dinner. Skiiiiip.

LeonhartFour posted...
From: Mega Mana | #403
and if so, does she have an infatuation with Bern?
uhhhhhh

Weren't they in bed together after the fourth game giggling at Beatrix's BS responses to Battler's blue? Total love for each other despite their games.

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"But...gorillas don't have claws." - Azazel22
"Broccoli gorillas do." - McMoogle

- New music seems totally inappropriate for the moment.
- Lamba & Bern, totally gonna get it on after this game.
- Intact phone call? hmm...
- lol direct attack
- lol untap, upkeep, draw. I thoguht this was chess, not card games. I wonder which. Hopefully Magic the Gathering. Get it? Because they're gathering magic?
- And the game begins! If I had known it would be so soon, I'd have broken the last post here. Oh well.

doot
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THE FOLLOWING TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 11:00 AM AND 5:00 PM ON THE DAY BEFORE THE ROKKENJIMA INCIDENT.

- Wait why'd he get hit?
- *scrolls back* Oh WTF Battler? *haymakers*
- I wonder if Scorpion Charms or Natsuhi's mirror ever come back...
- Without Genji's strength, huh? Well, Day 2's gonna suuuuck for Natsuhi.
- At first I was like, "Wait, does Natsuhi know Ronove," amnd then I was like, "Oh good, she's as freaked out by seeing him for the first time as I was." Boss.
- Yeah, cuz he's Genji foo.
- Ffff... not Gaap.
- No. Beatrice doesn't need an extra hand. Go away.
- Yeah, Natsuhi doesn't find your pranks very funny. Go away.
- The puzzle is... the game itself? How and why it begins? Ah, why the set-up? A good mystery.
- That cloud is shaped like a cartoon chipmunk face.
- The rose tantrum! Good ol' Gohda.
- Ah, Natsuhi's concerned about the "son"
- I remember hating Gohda in the first game, but he's done so very little that I've come to appreciate his five seconds of airtime every game, even if he is a tool.
- He seems insistent on serving the tea. HALLUCINOGENS AND/OR POISON
- I hope with Lambda & Bern taking over the game, there's tons more coemdic Battler. We've already had Pervy Battler and a reference to fear of boats Battler
- Hey! "Mom"! They do have a mother!
- I really hope those are clothes from within themansion. No, I don't at all. I hope those clothes buuuurn.
- Furudo Erika aka Lady Bernkastel
- Oh good, Jessica's old formal wear. Though, probably once used in her singing career too as a joke. PETTAN PETTAN TSURUPETTAN
- XD Bern. 'I'm putting myself in the game because you so thoroughly fail at life, Battler.' Ownage.
- The pieces of the game are hilaiously falling head over heels for Erika. "Oh a guest! We are so pleased to make your acquaintance, lovely one *siiiigh* <3" Is it Lambdadelta writing the characters, and if so, does she have an infatuation with Bern?

"I proclaim that Furudo Erika is the detective. The detective is not the culprit. No proof is needed to show this. / Furudo Erika is not the culprit. Furudo Erika had no influence on any of Beato's games before now. She does exist in the worlds before this one, nor does she influence them. Furudo Erika only increases [the population on the island] by one person. Besides her, the number of people on this island is exactly the same as it was in previous games."

KNOX 7TH: It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit.

- Battler's going to be so disappointed by the new girl's lack of giant Ushiromiya happy fruit.
- Ha, poor Natsuhi & Krauss. If Kinzo isn't there to greet the guest, they could get in big trouble.

"In other words, the number of people in this parlor now is equal to the total number of people on this island."
- Yeah, but what about animals, huh? Sakutaro's now feral and roaming the woods!
- Does the standing arrangement have anything to do with anything?
- No, thorw those clothes in the FIYAH
- CONSPIRACIES, WOO
- Still kind of weird seeing Beatrix without Beatrix in play.
- **** Gaap. It's not even her powers. those are cool. It's Gaap herself. If Ronove had teleportation powers, he'd be the greatest character ever.

Olympian Demigods - 7 @ New York Nemesis - 1
W: C. Lee (3-3)
L: C. Carpenter (1-3)
Sv: B. Fuentes (1)
HR: K. Youkilis (5)

DEMIGODS BATTING
R. Theriot: 2/4, 2 R, BB, K
K. Youkilis: 3/5, 2 R, 2B, HR, 3 RBI
R. Braun: 1/4, R, 2B, BB, K
J. Thome: 2/5, R, RBI
T. Hunter: 1/3, R, 3B, 2 RBI, BB, K, SF
J. Mauer: 2/5
M. Prado: 2/5, 2B, RBI, K
S. Rolen: 0/3, BB
A. Rios: 0/4, 2 K

2B: R. Braun, M. Prado, K. Youkilis
3B: T. Hunter
HR: K. Youkilis
RBI: M. Prado, K. Youkilis (3), T. Hunter (2), J. Thome
SF: T. Hunter

NEMESIS BATTING
LF J. Ellsbury: 2/4, R
SS J. Wilson: 0/4, 2 K
3B D. Wright: 1/2, 2 BB
CF J. Hamilton: 1/4, RBI
RF J. Heyward: 0/4
DH C. Quentin: 0/3, BB, K
1B T. Helton: 0/4
C R. Martin: 0/3
2B B. Roberts: 1/3, K

RBI: J. Hamilton

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OLYMPIAN PITCHING
C. Lee (W): 7.0 IP, 3H, 1R, 1ER, 3BB, 3K, 0HR, 1.29 ERA, 0.857 WHIP
J. Papelbon: 0.0 IP, 1H, 0R, 0ER, 0BB, 0K, 0HR, 0.00 ERA, #INF WHIP
B. Fuentes (S): 2.0 IP, 1H, 0R, 0ER, 0BB, 1K, 0HR, 0.00 ERA, 0.500 WHIP


NEW YORK PITCHING
C. Carpenter: 7.0 IP, 10H, 4R, 4ER, 3BB, 4K, 1HR, 5.14 ERA, 1.857 WHIP
H. Bell: 2.0 IP, 3H, 3R, 3ER, 1BB, 2K, 0HR, 13.50 ERA, 2.000 WHIP

IBB: R. Braun

GEMS
1-2:04 (1&3) - Heyward off Thome
1-6:05 (1&6) - Braun off Heyward
1-8:28 (2&1/2) - Youkilis DP off Helton
1-11:00 (3&5) - Braun off Ellsbury
2-1:14 (4&2) - Wright off Thome
2-4:22 (4&6) - Theriot off Heyward
2-12:17 (6&4) - Prado to Youkilis off Roberts
3-2:22 (6&6) - Braun off Heyward
3-3:36 (7&2/3) - Roberts-Wilson-Helton DP off Mauer
3-4:23 (7&4) - Lee off Quentin

ExThaNemesis posted...
Mana, the only things that got you there were Lee outperforming Carpenter so much. My god did Lee dominate.

The whole game: "Wow, Lee hasn't blown it yet. We might actually win!"
Bottom of the Eighth: "NOOOO DON'T SEND IN PAPELBON WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!"
One pitch, one hit later: "YES!!! BEST MANAGING EVER!"

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Pyre GIR (9:26:57 PM): You lack a basic grasp of human nature that can only be learned through living
IamSoCool84321 (9:28:07 PM): ur dumb

How come I always remember Umineko when it's too late to play it?

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It's too late because Kinzofaces aren't allowed after dark.

That's pretty awesome.

And I thought switching Rolen to 8th was a crazy move. Well done!

--
Abed: It's the first season of Lost on DVD. Pierce: That's the meaning of Christmas?
Abed: No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff.

Ayvuir posted...
~ 48. The End of Toonami ~
Link:
Suggested by: todbot1

Yeh... Was never a massive Toonami fan, didnt actually even know it had been cancelled, so this didn't really effect me. But it was nicely done.

Still spine-tingling every time from "Toonami wouldn't be anything without you" on, especially the Stay Gold. I still need to see Cowboy Bebop. I had it as a nomination, too, until I saw Todbot had it.

And it's below the next two? Vinyl Condoms was awesome, and as somebody who has died countless times to Verminator, it is damned impressive. Don't mind seeing it so low though.


Would have been more impressed if the cat had ACTUALLY gotten shot, because i despise cats. But i guess this was kind of cute. Blood and guts though would have sent this higher up the list though.

And now your list sucks.

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"Guys, until I can find the queue without modding myself, I think you'll be okay.
No guarantees about the others though." - Ngirl

Alright. vRHP Line-up

1) R. Theriot SS
2) K. Youkilis 1B
3) R. Braun LF
4) J. Thome DH
5) T. Hunter CF
6) J. Mauer C
7) M. Prado 2B
8) S. Rolen 3B
9) A. Rios RF

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"Why does Valve not allow me to melt down this garbage into metal? I will never use them and nobody will ever take them. I am mad." - Bio on crates

- Yeah, Jessica. Does she know Kinzo's dead? She lives there and by 1986, he'll be gone at least a year. Is she often at school year-round singing pettan pettan tsurupettan? Or is she just dumb? Maybe she's killed int he first twilgiht because she knows too much!
- "One more" anything kills. Of course, that's the game though, right? One more episode, one more episode. Money get smoney? Magic gets magic. These episodes and Battler's fight are all like giant batteries for the witches, right? They keep churning it out and spinning it around to generate more and more flow, but one of these games, it'll be too fat that Battler can just pop it all ike a balloon and there's no magic left. They can't reel it in. Or whatever. LEGEND OF SNAKE.
- I was thinking the same thing, too, Battler =(

"In the last game, you said in red that Grandfather is dead at the start time for all games. However, you never mentioned whether Grandfather was alive or dead before the start time for the games. ....In short, even if Grandfather exists in this place right now, that doesn't create any contradictions."
- Oh will you make out with her already?

"And I also can't deny the existence of the Beatrice in this place. The number of people on this island outside the game board...in other words, before October 4th, 1986, has not been proclaimed in red. Therefore, there's nothing strange about Beatrice existing here."
- He wants to looove you. He wants to kissss you. He wants to have magical non-existant babies with you. And then you'll be all like, BWAH MY BABIES DON'T EXIST! *boom kills everybody* *boom revives her crazy father* *boom unmakes reality* *boom no more mutants*
- Whoa, what's Kanon treating Shannon so harshly? LAMBDAAA
- Oh, sparing Shannon from working. Uh... alright.
- Random talking, whoa. That's new.
- Also, did I mention before shannon's name description? "Shannon's" not her real name. That's so going to be brought up and used in previosu games to note that someone wasn't really who they said they were. Kind of like how "Kanon" was really killing people in Ep.2.
- Why can't Kyrie be Beatrice's opponent? She'd have won like halfway through Game 1. Or maybe everyone else is playing with their own version of Beatrice and they're sitting around waiting for Battler to finish his game because he sucks at death.
- Alright, so Hideyoshi and Eva are suspicious and use samurai analogies. Rudolf and Kyrie are suspicious and talk about hiring some investigators. I betcha Rosa's up next and blames Maria for killing her dad and beats her. Yay child abuse jokes. I'm looking forward to seeing why she's "best mom ever" after Episode 4.
- "Don't talk about money in front of that child!" XD, ohhh Rosa. Never change. Or else I couldn't make fun of you.
- Ha! 200 million yen or spending time with her kid? Hmm... what choice is Rosa, Best Mom Evar, going to make?
- Delsney Land? Really?
- Wow. "I made plans forgetting completely that I was already going to spend time with my daughter. Looks like I'll just make it seem like it's all her fault by punishing her for leaving the lights on." Heard a very similar story listening to a podcast earlier regarding a firing, about how 'late scripts' were one of the causes when it was likely a draft one time. Yay headhunting! In short, Rosa sucks.
- Lol. Natsuhi and her miracle typhoon wish. Well, more like, Lambadelta and her cliched storytelling.
- A young man? Guessing Battler, but could be... hmm... hmm... nope, no idea.
- "........It's been a long time." Yeah, this music definitely isn't Battler saying he's ready to come back.
- Say WHAT?

First off,

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59252354


Okay, now back to the lesser piece of writing...

Starting over just to look at the Grimoire from after the first twilight, I'm confused. The first time playing, I could've sworn all ten Laws as well as Bern's alter and the various mentors/furniture Bern used were listed, but now it's only giving me the six dead people and nothing else. Was this only for the first time playing and now there's some kind of lockout or am I imagining things? I remember ten laws with the fifth unlisted, Bern's little girl was across from Virgilia's picture, her mentor-type across from Ronove (who had glasses about 25% of the clicks, interesting), uncertain who was third, and at the bottom were the four Siesta Sisters, one of whom was headless and dead already. Damn I wish I had paid more attentiont hat first time through.

Taking a break after my third time going through again.

*six hours later*

Wow, what a nap! Looks like I won't be posting until midnight or so =P.

Or later. I get so easily distracted and interested in everything else.

- Natsuhi and Krauss out on the town, enjoying an evening of chewing poisonous food together. If anyone's mouths are bright red, we know what caused it! This poison shall not be unknown!
- So I've ripped Beato's soul to shreds! Wooo! I feel like such a bad guy!
- "I felt I could only let her sleep by strangling her to death."
- "Unless this game is resolved, you will never be released." I know what that's like... even though I totally had the option of letting the topic purge or leaving the board or starting up a new game of Metroid Prime for old time's sake instead.
- Natsuhi, all alone, talking to herself. Without love, it cannot be seen.
- XD Bern. "Oh, yeah, Schroedinger's cat? Nuh-uh, I'm done with all your flimsy BS, Battler. Check my style out. After all, Natsuhi is drinking tea all by herself right there." And boom goes the dynamite.
- Bern finally getting some expressions freaks me out. Lambdadelta came into the game with her trollface on, but Bern smiling or being all wide-eyed? *shivers*
- And here Battler is, talking to nobody, all alone, in some made-up world. And me, staring at a flat screen, pressing buttons, describing non-existant people or characters. However, my message is relayed to others to read as the game's creators have relayed Battler's story and of those on Rokkenjima in 1986 no matter how fictional. Or whatever. LEGEND OF SNAKE.

Not playing tonight

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"well its a mega mana topic so it'll obviously be high quality" - Ryokles

- Okay, Kinzo's dead and Genji's alive? Did we go back in time? If so, was Kinzo really alive?
- lol Krauss fail
- Hey there, Kinzo! You seem like a sweet old man this time, as you were when Natsuhi visited you in episode 1.
- Hey there, Beatrice!
- XD. Man, there's definitely times it's either the intent or the translation that makes sentences feel empty, but now for sure I know it's like Lambdadelta playing with a doll like a three-year-old. "I am free to run rampant. I do not listen to anyone's orders!" And then there will be nuh-uhs and "Well, my name's Battler and I like to touch boobies!" and they'd get into a comeuppance match where they get even more hilariously negative about the traits of characters.
- You must first believe in overcoming hardship if you should ever wish to overcome it. Well, then, I could use that advice >__>
- So that explains Kinzo's appearance on the island. Beatrice's magic keeps him alive as long as everyone who knows of his death believes in his life. It also explains why, outside of Game Four where he was a meatpuppet, he only interacted with the servants (besides Gohda), Nanjo, and Natsuhi as well as why he was holed up in his room. I wonder if its a legitimate answer or a misdirection, though. Though... Battler and his huge magic-resisting toxin had never interacted and collapsed the image of Kinzo in Ep4.
- Yeah, wahtever happened to Kinzo's wife? She's rarely even been mentioned despite having four kids. As well, Maria's father's also out of the picture. I'm still waiting for them to randomly appear at some point.

Kinzo is already dead.
- Thanks for that, Lambda.

- Wait, I thought Battler came late to the game? Are they showing him it all over again? Interesting. As for why he's up and about, same reason Eva was all over the place in episode 3. It's the story being told, the illusion presented to the player to obscure things that aren't really happening. Perhaps. It's been a while.
- Puropuropikopuyo!

Grandfather is dead at this point in time.
- Good job, Battler.

The reason Grandfather is strolling around like nothing happened even though he's already dead is that people who want to make it seem as though he's alive created an illusion of him. People who think the same way can share in that illusion. Then, they talk as though Grandfather actually exists and was with them until a second ago. That's why he's strolling around like it's perfectly natural. Because of this, the illusion of Grandfather is unable to appear before people who aren't in on this with Natsuhi oba-san. That's why they set it up so that he would shut himself away in his study and not come out.

Because they all stuck to the sdame story, the illusion of Grandfather was able to exist on this island, making it seem like he was alive.

- Ooh, Knox's 4th Commandment? Unknown drugs and scientific devices are unusable? Truth or a matter-of-fact wave of the hand to fool Battler?
- Hidden passages musn't exist? Then explain the entrance to the hidden mansion through the hidden sewer tunnel thing? ...Or perhaps it's explained that they were somehow in the hidden mansion all along and Gohda and Kumasawa lied and created the illusion that they were in the regular mansion! Ooooh spooky.
- Where's Rick Castle when you need him? He helps solve crime for a living using only mystery novel and crime genre tropes!
- Knox's 3rd - No hidden passages. Knox's 4th - no unknown or overly complex sciences. Got it.

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Abed: It's the first season of Lost on DVD. Pierce: That's the meaning of Christmas?
Abed: No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff.