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Well you shouldn't really feel too bad about giving up since the R+V, Negima, and Excel Saga animes are all pretty bad and butcher their respective series beyond recognition.

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Speaking of Sayonara Zetsubou-Sensei, I had no idea that the manga just ended last month.

I guess the author wanted to focus on Joshiraku or something.

but I tried to discuss the ending before :(

it's honestly disturbing how much sense the surreal imagery in the op/ed songs make now. SHAFT knew it all along and has been trolling us for yeeeeaaaaarrrrrrsssssss.

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I remember hearing a few weeks-months back that Ad Aware got bought out by a spam company.

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Eh.

Didn't really care too much for 7 because it was too drawn out between the way the backtracking was handled, bosses have bloated amounts of HP to make up for having 3 characters + healing items so they felt like they took forever to kill, and felt generally grindier. Also didn't care for the plot very much.

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Birdy the Mighty: Decode

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I was wondering earlier today how to rearrange channels.

I'll try it later.

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Yeah it's more related to PSO/PSU, if anything.

Main thing I heard about it changing is adding rolling/dodging. But that got added into PSP2 so you'd be just better off playing that.

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Goodnight Punpun
Solanin
Eden: It's an Endless World
BLAME!
Biomega
whatever else Nihei wrote
Trigun/Trigun Maximum
Seven Billion Needles
Pet Shop of Horrors
Mushishi
Pluto
Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro
etc.

also been thinking about starting reading Attack on Titans

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Vagrant Story

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SaGa

(at least I hope it's dead; nothing since Romancing Saga in 2008)

Wasn't The Last Remnant basically a SaGa game in disguise or am I thinking of some other game?

Pretty much.

And there's been two SaGa games since then (the most recent of which came out last year!), so the series isn't dead either.

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Growlanser 4.

...That's pretty much it.

Well, immediate future games for a system I already have and have discrete release dates, anyway.

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I guess I could give someone a Glory of Heracles or Planet Puzzle League code if they need a little extra, since the value would go down by the time I use it.

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and the Strike Witches novels are clearly about the psychological struggle of being a closeted homosexual and being afraid to explore one's sexuality.

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Valkyrie Profile, Knights in the Nightmare, Nier.

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Just finished PS3.

Too bad some of the better ideas got completely lost in the blandness and copypasta and difficulty getting around and generally feeling like treading through molasses.

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Yes, I'm on the last generation with Sean.

Seems like I just need to get one more of the Nei weapons and power them up before I can fight the final boss.

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IIRC P1P rescored most of the soundtrack, with a shorter track list and shorter songs to cut down on the load times and in a more jpop style over more moody/atmospheric songs to appeal to p3/p4 fans which gives the entire game a completely different feeling.

for example




vs.




now I haven't played my PSX copy and I don't really care about the changes (aside from it looping a bit too often), but it was a huge deal when the port was announced since the soundtrack was the main thing (only?) people liked about the PSX version

ISP retained most of its soundtrack because people complained about P1P's soundtrack changes.

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Eh, I can understand hating the PSX version between the botched localization, horrible load times, and world map and such, but there really isn't anything wrong with the PSP version besides the soundtrack being rescored to appeal to the pathetic idiot hipster P3/4 fans and it not redrawing the character portraits despite being them being ugly and poorly drawn compared to later work (particularly Mark ew even black Mark is better).

Range/aoe system is kind of annoying at times too since certain character/persona combos might have trouble hitting some formations of enemies, but with the PSP version showing the aoe before attacks makes it a nonissue for the most part.

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I could have sworn that you could at least teleport between towns. Like, casting the escape spell would take you back to the landing area, but then at the very least if not the spell you could warp with a telepipe or something.

Also I'm going back and finishing PS3 because of this topic. I was looking at a guide to figure out where I left off, tried following along until I realized that I had already been to the place I was trying to reach for the past half hour or so. Then I thought that I needed to get the aqua parts so I had to retrace my steps to the town I had last saved in, then went to a dungeon to get the aqua parts only to realize that I had already got them from that dungeon (because there were aqua and sub parts, and I already had both but didn't notice that I had the aqua parts because they were in another character's inventory and the people guarding the sub parts incorrectly call them the "aqua parts" anyway). orz

At least I did make some progress eventually.

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Yeah sorry as I said it's been years since I played so I had no idea on the names were and my saves are in the final dungeon so I couldn't check either.

Already posted the difference. Both let you talk to Dezolians, but they're hostile/lie to you if you wear the Magic Cap instead of the Mogic Cap.

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well then maybe the FAQ author was talking about the dungeon near Skure, which means that you should follow those directions into the nearby connecting dungeon I guess.

it's been years since I played.

(edit: wait what is the name of the town? It says that it's in Skure which I thought was the town, but maybe it's just the name of the area you land. It's apparently in the tunnel to the town of Aukba)

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Uh it sounds like it's in a chest, and there's more than one opportunity to get one. Like in the first town, and in one of the connecting dungeons between areas. If you can't find it in town then I think starting from there you

CTRL+V

Take the corridor to the north and follow it until you reach an
east/west split. Go west, and down the chute that you come to. Walk
west a short ways, and the path will split off at a 4-way intersection.
Go north for a chest containing a Magic Cap, then go back, and go south
and down the next chute. Walk north into a room with a mother-lode
of six treasure chests! Only three of them contain items... they are
another Magic Cap, the Mogic Cap and 5,600 Meseta.

*NOTE* As I said before, wearing a "Mogic Cap" is the only way to
communicate with the people of Dezo, and only Rolf can equip it. The
Magic Cap also allows you to speak with the cats that are wandering around
in Skure, but they will usually be "hostile" towards you. There are also
fake Caps called "Magic Caps" floating around. Though they have the same
effect as the Mogic Cap, while wearing the Magic Cap the cats will give
you information rather than being "hostile", but all services in Dezo will
cost twice as much (this means resting, teleporting, items, equipment...
everything), and all the Dezolians will tell you lies. The only thing
it's good for is talking to the animals. -_-


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Well there were three planets in the Algol system, Palma, Motavia, and Dezolis. Motavia was too hot, Dezolis was too cold, but Palma was just right for humans. Between PS1 and 2 the Palmans invented the mother brain system and terraformed Motavia from a desert into a mild climate like Palma and colonized it. Dezolis was too cold and barren to attempt to colonize, so that's why they think whoever tampered with Mother Brain is in hiding there.

The jawa guys are the native Motavians and the green guys are the native Dezolians.

The space pirate guy is the descendant of Alis, the heroine of PS1.

The goal of the next portion of the game is to find the hidden Esper Mansion to meet Noah/Lutz, one of Alis' companions from the first game, and visit the four shrines to get the eight sacred weapons/armor for the final battle.

the native Dezolians don't like humans so they don't speak Palman and some of them are liars, but I don't think it affects shops or cloning areas or whatever. Don't remember how you get the translator for their language. I think you just have to go to one of the friendlier villages but let me go check.

Ok you just need to get the magic hat ("mogic") lying around in the first village and have it equipped on someone while talking with them.

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Wait for the sale.

Also Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin.

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You seem to be thinking of Mika, who isn't the main character in the anime or either game. Though like I said, in chaos wars all the Gungrave stuff is based off of Gungrave Overdose.

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Nier.

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yes yes yes yes






yes yes yes


The thing with people recommending you skip the first episode, is that it is an adaption of a budget action game. Most people aren't really aware of it (so the change comes as a surprise to them), or prefer the way the anime expands the backstory/character development anyway. The first episode starts in media res in the portion covered by the game, before the second episode starts back at the beginning of the plot and continues until it catches up to where it started and then continues to the end of the story. Kind of like Berserk.

It's not really meant to be a spoiler, but a lot of people see it as one. If you've played Chaos Wars and read the character bios, you'd probably know at least part of the spoilers and what the games focus on so it's not exactly a big shock (though the anime is based on the first game while Chaos Wars uses the sequel's plot and characters). Though, about 80% of the stuff in the first episode is repeated verbatim in the second half which is the other reason people tell them to skip it.

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Growlanser of course.

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Tales of Graces f
Star Ocean 4
FF13-2





















Eternal Sonata

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Yggdra Union. Well, one ending anyway.

After you stop Nessiah from freeing himself with the Gran Centurio reaching Asgard to get his revenge on the Council of Magi, Archangel Marietta shows up and tells you to turn back before you reach Asgard and relinquish control of the Gran Centurio or else it would be considered an act of war). You can either listen to her and get the "Power in exchange for wisdom" ending (the canon one), or you can choose to fight her instead for the "Advent of Ragnarok" ending if you win. (There's a bonus fight against one of the Council of Magi's Grim Angel prototypes as a shout out to Riviera in the PSP version on this route but it's beside the point).

Sort of the same thing goes for Melia's route in Knights in the Nightmare.

IIRC, if Melia didn't destroy Marietta's scepter earlier in the game, after beating Zolonark you have a choice of siding with either Melia or Marietta. If you choose Melia, you fight Marietta and get a bad ending with Melia fusing with Zolonark and destroying the world after you win. If you side with Marietta, you kill Melia and get pretty much the same ending as the Maria route best ending. I'm probably fudging it up a bit though.

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I forgot about it too until I looked at a FAQ to refresh my memory.

There's a control tower in one of the towns. Go there and have a party member that learned the "music" technique from that guy play a song on the piano in that tower.

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Did you get the key card?

Green dam is supposed to be the hardest I think. But I don't remember having significant trouble with any of them.

One FAQ I just looked at suggested red yellow blue green, but it doesn't matter what order you open them in.

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Campione = Dai Maoh + Nasuverse

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About a third. You have the 4 dams and then the 4 shrines.

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Seriously I'm rewatching all the old Zetsubou Sensei openings and it's BLOWING MY GODDAMN MIND MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN STAND LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE SHAFT OPENINGS ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE I AM IN DESPAIR etc.

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LordEmbok posted...

damnit wang i can't find anything about the dept. heaven series being more than four games why are you leaving me hanging

also i *might* consider getting pokemon conquest but why would i buy the fourth growlanser game when i haven't played the first three

Well there's also Yggdra Unison (apocryphal retelling/spinoff of YU for phones and DS), Blaze Union (prequel to YU, though it's apocryphal too because it's from a different team), and Gloria Union (this one's a completely unrelated spinoff). But only numbered "episodes" 1, 2, 4, and 9 have been released (3 was planned to be a MMO or something but it got scrapped so they just said **** the numbering system).

Growlanser 4 is standalone unlike the games previously released in the states (as 1-2-3 are related and 5-6 which are a duology from the start). And it's considered the best in the series alongside the first game.

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oh my gawd

m. night kumeta

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I think the Vita will last 3-4 years at least, but do worse than the PSP overall.

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Well, I was expecting only one game that hasn't been in a bundle before to be added, and we got that.

But, I can't help but be a bit disappointed since adding SMB as a separate BTA game makes me think that they aren't going to add HIB4 keys like with previous bundles (though since I already have it it's not a big deal).

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aren't there arrows on the teleporter pads or something?

I never noticed them since I was playing on the GBA, but I heard someone say that there's some visual clue on the teleporters like with the stairs so you could know if they were going up or down.

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Claymore's kind of interesting if flawed in some ways like the pacing and the non-monster art.

Rosario's actually pretty decent for a generic harem action series after the genre shift.

Letter Bee is basically Kingdom Hearts delivers the mail with his pet tsundere and cries a lot, but some parts are kinda GRIMDARK. Pacing is pretty slow/weird the way things are divided up between volumes and takes a while to actually get started.

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The manga has a lot of movement and mid action panels, but I think the main reason people tend to have a lot of trouble reading it is because there isn't a lot of exposition. You rarely have characters stopping midfight to explain how their attacks work and there isn't a cheering section breaking down each fight blow by blow. And it doesn't help that Dark Horse's translation is a bit spotty.

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It's only a dollar difference (well I can understand if you would get it during a sale), and it would probably have extras/better support with gog.

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It's supposed to be a successor to Ultima Underworld. Haven't played it (well not really).

There's a demo you could try (it's also on steam) although I hear it's kind of buggy/troublesome to run.

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It's more about believing people can be redeemed than being against violence, the anime just focused more on the anti-violence part.

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Mana Khemia.

(though it's a bad port)

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Well, there were only 3 volumes of manga to work off of at the time since the magazine it ran in got canned.

It did a good job with "filler" though, better than most series. Nightow's said that basically anything in the anime that didn't contradict canon also happened in the manga as well and there's some anime based stuff appearing in Maximum as well.

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Yeah the clone thing is incredibly weird, all things considered.

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I mapped out one dungeon in PS1 before I realized that they aren't the least bit complicated at all and mapping them out was a complete waste of time. >_>

The only time I got lost really was finding the final boss door since the game's engine didn't support showing doors on the side walls when you're facing straight ahead so I ended up walking around in a circle, and backtracking until I exited that section of the final dungeon.

Beat 1 and 2 on the GBA collection. Didn't beat 3 despite getting to the last generation iIRC and it would be a nightmare to figure out where I was and where I had to go next at this point.

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I don't think maps or mapping is necessary for the dungeons.

For the first half of the game. Oh god just finding the dungeons in the second half of the game was hard enough let alone the pit trap hell. :(

Don't remember it being hard to remember what spell does what, since for the most part characters have set roles. Rolf's the main character, so he gets main character type little bit of everything spells. The doctor gets healing spells, the biologist gets anti-biological monster spells, and the mechanic gets anti-mechanical monster spells. I personally only bothered with healing spells really.

For equipment, you basically have a choice between

1 two handed weapon (sword/gun)
dual wielding one handed weapons (knives and claws/boomerangs where applicable-or wait were the boomerangs two handed weapons?)
1 one handed weapon and 1 shield
dual wielding shields

If casters have trouble with survivability some people suggest giving them two shields. (though I personally didn't feel it was necessary)

Trying to remember how you get other party members. I wanted to say it was levels, but then again I think it's from going back to Rolf's house after visiting a new town. IDK. been years since I played it.

Also have Shir steal the Visiphone

then

leave her alone <_<

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