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TopicCommunity Mafia Endgame Discussion
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:24:22 AM
#8
UltimaterializerX posted...
Who actually killed Lopen?
I did it was to coincide with the 24hr mark of Blade's ##Kill if I had realized the game started when it did it would have been instant but I saw the 6pm start and I thought Lea was starting it 6pm our time not eastcoast time.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Endgame Discussion
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:18:41 AM
#1
Here

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:17:37 AM
#498
UltimaterializerX posted...
That one post was over the line, Ill give you that. If you actually are bothered then sure Ill be as nice with you as I am with everyone else.
You're never nice to me. Jk

But to address you thinking I was mad or surprised about the scan, I posted in our scum chat a note to you that basically went...

Even when I am scum and know you're town I still don't trust you lol.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:15:10 AM
#494
Obellisk posted...
well this game went from pure chaos to getting close to fun to dead...

..for me that is.

Great game Lea.

screw both igcd and mzero for doubly screwing me on rhe first night I could actually perform.
When you said you going to hand scum over on a silver platter I knew you had to die lol

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:05:19 AM
#482
IfGodCouldDie posted...
That was a part of what influenced me to keep both of you alive, for longer than we needed to. Obviously optimal play was just kidnap you day 1 and I've already addressed that kidnapping Lopen was our biggest mistake.
Also I didn't realize the game started as early as it did. When I saw 6 I thought it was 6 my time because me and Lea live so close. If I had been here for start of day Lopen would have disappeared as soon as you "killed" him but because I wasn't we tried for the 24hr marker.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:03:09 AM
#480
Meow1000 posted...
If Ulti would've stopped inventing these creative and contradictory ways to call me scum out of nowhere I'd have found him a lot more believable.

I thought there was a good chance Ben was a straight up bus job by Ulti. Then Ben flipped 3P and ???

Saving Ulti on nights 6 and 7 was an easy decision though.
That was a part of what influenced me to keep both of you alive, for longer than we needed to. Obviously optimal play was just kidnap you day 1 and I've already addressed that kidnapping Lopen was our biggest mistake.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:01:48 AM
#476
htaeD posted...
Just would be a funny trend continuation is all
Oh yea lol

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 11:00:31 AM
#472
htaeD posted...
Imagine Ctes betting his life right day1 and then just shooting you day2.
What about it?

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:57:58 AM
#470
htaeD posted...
FD, IGCD. You totally werent the underdogs from a lot of perspectives. Mostly your 'confirmability'
You made yourself weaker than you could have been.
Me being on a team automatically makes it the underdogs

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:55:00 AM
#466
PunishedBen posted...
I didn't think I could switch to voting Ulti and get away with it either. Maybe I should have tried, it just felt like something I couldn't pull off in the game state
I knew I scanned guilty and had ulti questioning his scan, don't ever just give up. Blade says he wouldn't let you live but Blade was ready to lynch ulti up until FD was hammered and he'll lie and say he wasn't

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:53:29 AM
#463
PunishedBen posted...
4TH ALIGNMEMT BABY

.... In all seriousness, I had a lot of ways to win and simply missed them all. Like I could have roleblocked Ulti the night he scanned me, I just forgot I had the ability. And on the day I died I was already committed to trying to help the underdogs (Or what I perceived as the underdogs at the time lol)
We were 3v16 we were the underdogs the entire game

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:52:18 AM
#459
htaeD posted...
Oh yeah.
Tho Ben was not making it out of that day alive IMO.
He could only end in tie and then the next night is a coin flip for the win or instalose

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:51:18 AM
#454
I never play for town as scum, fuck that it's so much more fun winning as the bad guys

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:39:12 AM
#436
The other mistake we made was not having FD just keep sending the kills.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:36:34 AM
#434
Meow1000 posted...
By the way I totally called that IGCD was over the top faking it.
Over the top? I legit had ulti questioning his scan lol

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:26:46 AM
#423
Meow1000 posted...
Ok yeah that's what I figured.

Also yeah, if I get janitored day 2 while I'm bluffing investigation in response to Corrik that uh... Would've been unpleasant.
Live and learn lol

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:25:57 AM
#421
ctesjbuvf posted...
Don't worry IGCD, I didn't really mind!
Lol it was such a flip from topic to scum chat

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:24:47 AM
#418
We enacted the plan to kill protection after I got confirmed by you

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:24:13 AM
#417
Meow1000 posted...
Who did you shoot night 6 anyway
You

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:21:46 AM
#414
See the thing is I have no faith in my abilities as town or scum.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:11:52 AM
#403
Meow1000 posted...
I just don't understand why you'd ever shoot one of your best mislynch options in Ben

Chaos doesn't describe that
We leaned to far into the chaos it happens. I said in chat we were 3v16 it happens.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:09:32 AM
#398
UltimaterializerX posted...
Oh ok. You almost fooled me for a second lmao
It was very expected, it's why we shot you that night I'm pretty sure.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:08:57 AM
#395
Also @Kirby321 and @Ctesjbuvf I am sorry for the things I said on the day I was lynched. I was trying to replicate my town about to be mislynched play.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:07:03 AM
#388
Meow1000 posted...
By the way

Thank you for nuking Lopen day 1.

Ulti and I were at each other's throats most of the game but if Lopen were alive too my god
Using it on Lopen was the only true mistake we made, getting our targets saved/us roleblocked were just better plays by town.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 10:05:45 AM
#384
UltimaterializerX posted...
You were scum mvp. I was also locked in like never before man.

God really was mad I scanned him. Jesus bro.
I wasn't mad you scanned me at all.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 9:57:16 AM
#362
htaeD posted...
Ben went against you because you tried to kill him, lol.
He shouldn't have known that though

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 9:56:44 AM
#359
changmas posted...
also surely some of those at the end were intentional no kills right
Nope

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 19 - We Could Be Roped Up, Tied Up, Dead in a Year
IfGodCouldDie
05/21/24 9:56:15 AM
#355
Meow1000 posted...
Ben honestly was an irredeemably bad shot on night 5 and is a "deserve to lose the game" type of decision.

I don't get how a scumteam ever gets to a point where shooting him is even considered an option.

You mean that town had Ulti/Blade/Kirby all alive and all wide open to be shot and scum chose to shoot at a high-value mislynch/indy lynch over any of them. Inexcusable.
Because we needed town questioning the choices in shots. Don't pretend you and Ulti weren't ready to lynch each other the entire game.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:27:11 PM
#451
Kirby321 posted...
I don't understand why you're so tilted. If you're town, you know that Ulti is gonna be lynched immediately after your flip. Why you think the game is immediately over as soon as you die. Have some faith in us to lynch Ulti if you flip town, please.
I don't have any faith that we win this game with me fucking lynched

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:25:57 PM
#448
Just because you got lucky one time doesn't mean you played well

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:24:26 PM
#447
Kirby321 posted...
Please continue to pile on the harsh critiques. I'm totally not irked at them, especially when I made the "fucking shit" play to jail scum N1 :P
Shit the fuck up

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:18:55 PM
#444
Like I'm legitimately so fucking pissed off over this

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:18:34 PM
#443
I'm not fucking indy or scum of any kind though.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:16:18 PM
#441
Meow1000 posted...
Oh I don't have faith in Kirby at all, but we get a literal confirmed scumteam of Ulti+Ctes if you flip town. I think he's still more likely to roleblock me than roleblock Ulti even in the situation where Ulti gets hard confirmed as scum, but if Kirby wants to throw it from there, I doubt Kirby would have allowed us to win the game in the first place.
Yea I guess you're right. Feel free to hammer me when ever. I'm not even going to fight it anymore. I'm feeling like shit getting myself so worked up over this game.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:13:29 PM
#439
Meow1000 posted...
If you flip town and Kirby doesn't block Ulti the town deserves the loss. I would think by now that Kirby realizes you town flipping hard confirms Ulti scum, and scum can only win the game tonight if Ulti isn't blocked tonight. If he fails to roleblock a literal confirmed scum Ulti, then this town never had a chance anyway because Kirby was never giving it one.

Like the scumteam is 100% confirmed to be Ulti and Ctes if you flip town.
Ulti even started wavering on the "conviction" of his fucking scan, this is such a fucking trap and you're pulling such fucking stretches to justify his scan. You know it's a fucking lie. Don't make this mistake Blade.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:10:07 PM
#438
Meow1000 posted...
If you flip town and Kirby doesn't block Ulti the town deserves the loss. I would think by now that Kirby realizes you town flipping hard confirms Ulti scum, and scum can only win the game tonight if Ulti isn't blocked tonight. If he fails to roleblock a literal confirmed scum Ulti, then this town never had a chance anyway because Kirby was never giving it one.

Like the scumteam is 100% confirmed to be Ulti and Ctes if you flip town.
I have zero fucking faith in Kirby because his play has been fucking shit.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/19/24 12:05:39 PM
#436
This is actually fucking horse shit. In not fucking scum and you guts are going to fucking hammer and lose. Good fucking job saving me Blade and then turning around and throwing the fucking game because you ended up buying Ulti's bullshit. This is fucking dumb, fuck this shit.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 11:24:38 PM
#363
Meow1000 posted...
Something to do with having enough correct guesses probably.
I suppose, and getting enough would have outright removed Ben from the game if his condition was met, I assume based on Ben's flip.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 11:22:48 PM
#361
Meow1000 posted...
I mean for one example, if Ctes claim is real he's practically outright claimed 3P already.
And his wincon would be? Like don't get me wrong I could absolutely see him as third party too, but I don't understand what his wincon could be other than that of a survivor like Ben.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:55:04 PM
#359
Meow1000 posted...
"You win whenever Town, Mafia, or a 3rd Party achieves their win condition."

This flip is very very clear that if a 3rd Party exists, it has it's own, separate wincon, that is not related to town or scum.
I mean what other wincon could exist without multiple night kills other than survivor?

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:49:29 PM
#357
Meow1000 posted...
If there is a 3rd party, Ben's flip all but guarantees they can't win with scum.
Unless we are looking at a 3rd party that can win with mafia, town or 4th party as some what of a mirror of Ben's role.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:39:26 PM
#353
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Also how does me putting one vote on the player people are choosing to believe when the only scum we've been given has been third party, he hasn't scanned a single fucking mafia player yet and you're eating it up.
Cut myself off out of frustration. Meant to say how does me putting one vote on him make it better when I would literally be the only vote on him. You didn't even acknowledge the vote I had on him when you were trying to "call me out." It's like talking to a brick fucking wall..

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:37:47 PM
#352
ctesjbuvf posted...
I am saying that your preservation sucks because you aren't going for the player contradicting you. You would be more likely to convince people if you did.
Also how does me putting one vote on the player people are choosing to believe when the only scum we've been given has been third party, he hasn't scanned a single fucking mafia player yet and you're eating it up.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:36:05 PM
#351
ctesjbuvf posted...
Why would the scan be a lie? Of course it's true.
He literally just admitted the possibility of me flipping town and is now talking about how he needs to be lynched "if" I flip town. You are either scum with him or choosing to be willfully ignorant.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:34:53 PM
#349
UltimaterializerX posted...
I already said if my scan is a lie then I want town to mislynch me tomorrow so we can all just move on, because it would mean town never had a chance anyway.
Yea that really tracks, with this 2-1 vs 4 it doesn't matter because with the night kill you and 3rd party have the numbers to win.

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TopicWilhelm scream: hate it or love it?
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:32:42 PM
#5
MagiMarthKoopa posted...
I don't even know what it sounds like
You'd know it if you heard it.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:30:44 PM
#345
UltimaterializerX posted...
No I have a guilty scan, but I admit that your spew is making me worried about some hidden bs role.
More fucking backtracking for when I flip town and Ulti walks away scot free, like I said gg ulti.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:07:23 PM
#343
Like what else would I flip with a guilty scan this is so fucking irritating like fuck guys wake the fuck up.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:06:35 PM
#342
UltimaterializerX posted...
If god flips scum, today will read like a last stand effort.

Hopefully its just him/chang and the game ends.
And not a single one of your sheep will question the fact you just admitted to not having a guilty scan on me.

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TopicCommunity Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
IfGodCouldDie
05/18/24 10:02:33 PM
#340
ctesjbuvf posted...
Preservation lmao. You had like one vote and someone else had one. Force your beliefs!

Except they probably don't exist and you scan guilty.
I had one vote from Ulti and one vote from Kirby, I joined Blade on you to make it 2-2 it requires 4 to lynch. If FD and Chang actually think about it they will hopefully see the truth here. So yes at this point having 2 votes puts me well within hammering range, so yes self preservation. Like the fact that you are just trying to antagonize me is fucking shitty.

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