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Finished A Link to the Past. What an outstanding game. The plot was simple and yet it's so rewarding to play through. Ganon's Tower was easily the best dungeon in the game, it felt great just tearing through waves of enemies and challenging puzzles, it really makes it feel like you've grown as a player (even though I've beat this game tons of times before). I had no game overs at all in this one.

Some of the necessary plot pieces are a bit cryptic, which I guess keeps in line with the previous two games. It would take a lot of exploring to figure out that you need the Silver Arrows to defeat Ganon for instance. Or that you need the Quake and Ether medallions to enter some dungeons. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, and people haven't really seen this game as being unbeatable or too cryptic by any means. Just an observation.

I'll start Link's Awakening right away this evening. I'll be playing the DX version for GBC (on Nintendo Switch Online). I'd really prefer to play the Switch remake but I want to stay more truthful with the development of the series.

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Finished the sixth Dark World dungeon just now. Only Turtle Rock and Ganon's Tower are left.

I struggle to find much to say to critique this game. I never liked the mismatched colours on the blue mail, I guess that's a critique. The dungeons don't really stick out as being unique, which isn't really a good or bad thing given that you could argue that their purpose is to challenge you, not to have some sort of theme like future installments had of their dungeons.

That said, the bosses have mostly held up very well, especially the Dark World ones. The bosses of Ice Palace and Misery Mire are kind of too similar to each other, though. Still, very fun, more so than the bosses in many future games.

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ItIsSoOver posted...

Every poo poo time is pee pee time
But not every pee pee time is poo poo time

Do you ever think about that?

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DrYuya posted...

I actually find anything even from ps2/gamecube era to be difficult to stomach. Not that games at that time and before weren't classics... Obviously they were or the game industry would never have grown like it did to begin with.

I agree with adjl in that it depends on the game. I remember the last time I played Twilight Princess I was bored with their attempt to set up a story. It spent a long time with cutscenes and trivial tasks just for the sake of setting up the story when I just wanted to start playing. We'll see if I feel that way this time (Twilight Princess is still a long way off, probably May or June).

If you fart and burp at the same time your body takes a screenshot

Alright I've finished the first two Dark World dungeons and now I've taken some time to upgrade a bunch of stuff, particularly by finding some heart pieces and upgrading my magic, bomb, and arrow capacity. I've also found two of the three magic medallions, which I remember needing to enter some later dungeons.

I've really noticed how much better balanced the sword beam is compared to Zelda 1. It's a nice boost, but not the absolutely essential ability it was back in the original game.

My only criticism is how the game seems to mislead you at times to score a cheap "gotcha" moment to inconvenience you. The worst one I've seen yet was in the second Dark World dungeon, where the game seems to reward you with a shortcut if you have the blue pillars switched to down, only to find out several rooms later that blue pillars needed to be up, forcing you to backtrack. Not cool, Nintendo.

Overall, ALttP is holding up as being as good as ever. I've played through this probably over a dozen times before so this really isn't a big surprise to me.

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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Pretty sure the time it takes to play BotW + Tears alone is equal to the playtime of all the other games combined lol.

This is probably true. TotK was incredibly long, which mostly is a good thing but the Depths were so bland.

Blue rare

Alright it's been a busy week at work but I've made it to the Master Sword in A Link to the Past.

It's remarkable just how MASSIVE of an upgrade this game was from the previous two. It's absolutely night and day. It makes perfect sense why this game remains so highly regarded to this day. The first impressions it must have provided people could only have been outstanding, especially to those that already had played the previous two games.

One thing that sits on my mind is what people must have thought the future of the series after this would bring. At this point, every game was totally different the each other. ALttP definitely has a lot in common with Zelda 1 but it's such a huge improvement that it doesn't really even seem like it's all that similar at all. The next 25 years of this series was dominated by games that could be argued followed the formula that ALttP implemented. I'll try keeping that in mind going forward to reassess exactly how much it feels like that was the case.

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That sounds like a Jaden Smith quote lmao

Smells like seven layers

In situations like that, it should be that the city maintains full control over the facility, and that anyone showing valid ID stating their address to be within the city should be granted free access to games.

In reality, neither of these things happen. It's an absolute scam. Stadiums should be built to be enjoyed for at least 50 years but in many cases they're being replaced at about the 20-30 year point. It's embarrassing.

And, I'm done. I took a wrong turn which REALLY screwed me over, took about 15 screens to get back to where I needed to be.

The bird soldiers are very tough but I remember learning years ago that the upward stab is the key to beating them as they jump over you. Definitely helped.

I beat the final boss without the cheap "crouch in the corner" technique, but after surviving Thunderbird right before, it's a miracle I survived. I was down to half a health bar on my last life.

I'm glad these two games are over and done with. I get the creative liberties they took with Zelda 2 (Super Mario Bros 2 was also totally different) and I actually quite enjoy this game, but it definitely isn't a style to return to.

The work week starts up again tomorrow, and I'm having a medical procedure done on Friday, so progress will probably slow down a bit. I can't believe I managed to finish both of these games over one weekend, but they both are pretty short (probably even the shortest in the series).

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I made it to the Great Palace. I remember this level being an insane maze, it'll be tough without a guide. Luckily game overs will respawn me at the start of this level (it's the only one in the game that does that).

Holy shit the road to the Great Palace was tough. The enemies move so randomly and can easily knock you into lava pits. There are also some lava pits that are a very long jump to cross. Really wasn't fun.

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pikakaeru posted...

boo

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I just finished the 4 palace of Zelda 2. This game would be insanely frustrating without the Switch's ability to rewind.

Barring that, the original game should have had ways to recover health other than the life spell. Also, the game over system should have been much more forgiving, like taking you to the entrance of the palace when you ran out of lives, or to the last town you visited if you're in the overworld.

Another change that needed to happen was falling into pits shouldn't have been an immediate lost life. It should have been minor damage and immediate respawn in a safe spot. There have been several cases of something that wasn't even on the screen when I started jumping flying towards me mid-jump over a pit, thus knocking me back into the pit. I can accept (and have been accepting) a failure when it's my own fault, but these just feel cheap and detract from the experience.

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adjl posted...

The only time I've played it was in the Collector's Edition for GC, and that's pretty much the reason I never finished it. Having every single death (of which there are quite a few, because it's a pretty hard game) send me all the way back to the start of the game was just miserable, even if I didn't lose any character growth in the process.

It's way better with save states on the 3DS/Switch, and especially on the Switch since you can rewind gameplay. Zelda 2 is very tough otherwise.

I've started Zelda 2, and I just got to the end of the first palace. I got lucky with a few 200 experience bag drops so I grinded more experience by defeating the skull bubbles (which if you're patient drop 50xp each). Then I took advantage of the fact that completing the palace grants you just enough experience to get you to the next level.

I think that's one of the biggest flaws of the game. If someone didn't know that, they could be within a few experience points of a level and therefore waste the excellent benefit of completing a palace. I feel like the experience completing a palace grants should be a standardized amount. Whatever, I'm aware of the system, so I'll take advantage of it I guess.

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Ogurisama posted...

Does this include the CDi games?

No lmao, that would be torture.

I finished Zelda 1! I never used a guide, I got lucky with the last dungeon and found the silver arrows and randomly managed to get to Ganon from there, however I wasn't able to find the red ring.

Overall, Zelda 1 was fun but it has aged terribly. I've always thought that, though; I first played it around 2003/2004 and was discouraged by the terrible controls. It's also very strange just how cryptic the game is. I remembered the location of level 8, but I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to find that.

I'll start Zelda 2 tonight. I actually have always preferred Zelda 2 over Zelda 1. I will be honest though, I'll make use of the "rewind" feature on the Switch for Zelda 2 quite a lot. The biggest problem I remember with that game is how unforgiving the game over system can be.

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I have 7 dungeons done. I got to the 6th boss and realized I didn't have arrows yet (but I had the bow). I then went and did level 7, and then searched everywhere for arrows. Ended up realizing you just buy them in a store lmao. Don't know how I missed/forgot that.

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FrozenBananas posted...

I just played BotW for the first time these past few months, put about 100 hours in and loved it. Its probably my favorite Zelda, which used to be a tie between Ocarina and Twilight Princess

I also think it's the best one. I got it on launch day as well as a Switch. I probably put 20 hours into it over that one weekend. I've never been so thoroughly engaged in a game before, and it definitely surpassed OoT for me.

Seeing your graph reminded me, I won't be playing Triforce Heroes. I never owned it and I really don't consider it canon. I also won't be playing the GBA Four Swords as I think it has be played with multiplayer.

I've finished 5 dungeons and I've got a lot of upgrades, including the Magical Sword (just got it now), the upgraded shield, and the blue ring.

Level 5 was a pretty big step up from the previous ones. Darknuts are super tedious to defeat. I'm not a big fan of the fact that if you aren't at full health the game becomes WAY harder due to losing the ability to shoot sword beams (which was reduced to a minor advantage in later games).

I'm also noticing that the world map really isn't as big as it seemed when I was younger.

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They released that image and then said "sorry" when they were busted for it being either heavily photoshopped or straight up AI generated, and now they refuse to comment on her location after this caused a lot of buzz.

This is extremely strange. I usually don't care about the royal family either but the fact they've been caught trying to hide something is really strange. I can't even imagine what the truth is if it's so bad that they need to lie like this.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

You should play them in timeline order instead.

Or play them in release order, and then play them again in timeline order.

bruh

Maybe another year lmao, I'm going to be super sick of Zelda games once this is done. I doubt we'll see any new Zelda games launch at any point in the next year so I'll have some time to recover when this is all done.

LinkPizza posted...

It may take a while. Good luck to you. Ill probably check in the updates in my spare time

Thanks chief, this'll be fun. I have a really hard time getting into new games nowadays so replaying ones I know I've always liked will be a nice way to spend some time.

I've beat the first dungeon of Zelda 1 and I'm busy collecting heart containers and stuff before going to the second dungeon. I'm also trying not to use a guide but that's going to be tough for these first two games.

Starting fresh tonight lads. I've played through all of them before so there aren't any surprises or anything. I want to experience how the series progressed over time, and renew my perspective on some of the "middle" games in Zelda's release lifespan like Minish Cap and Twilight Princess (it's weird even saying that, mentally to me those two games still feel newer).

I don't have a huge amount of free time outside of the summer so this will likely take a long time. BotW and TotK in particular are extremely long.

I haven't decided if I'll let myself play the 2019 remake of Link's Awakening instead of the Game Boy version. I think I shouldn't so that my perspective is a bit more authentic. I plan on playing the HD versions of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, but my Wii U has died of what seems to be a failing GPU so I'll need to get a new Wii U if I'm doing that (honestly it'll probably be less hassle to just play the GameCube versions even if they look like ass on a modern TV, I'll really miss the WWHD graphics though). I'll definitely play the Switch version of Skyward Sword instead of the Wii version. As for the N64 games, I'll play them on the N64 as the 3DS versions weren't really that big of an upgrade (and MM3D was a massive downgrade).

I'll post sporadic updates regarding progress and my opinions.

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Dikitain posted...

Texas should rename itself from "The Lone Star State" to "The Blue Ball State"

It's called The Lone Star State because that's their Google review.

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all of the above ma balls

Sir this is a Wendy's

Illness and anxiety does that to me.

I watched Philosopher's Stone last week, too.

I didn't Google anything about it. I didn't look anything up about Harry Potter on any website. I was completely disconnected from my phone or computer while watching it. I just played it on a DVD on my PS4.

And yet my Facebook feed today is FULL of Chamber of Secrets related things. Even some random stuff about the actress that played Professor Sprout.

Wtf why

I follow an adapted P90x routine. I do strength training 3 or 4 times per week, and cardio 1 or 2 times per week. Workouts range from 30 minutes (Thursday cardio by punching my heavy bag) to 90 minutes (Sunday shoulder and arm workout with dumbbells).

I've had good results but I don't really limit my diet much. I'd have much better results if I did, but good God that gets both expensive and bland. I need the occasional pizza and beer for my sanity.

No, but Sony and Microsoft have an uphill battle for sure. Sony has shot themselves in the foot by announcing that the PS5 is in its later part of its life (despite the fact that nobody feels that this generation has really even gotten started) and Microsoft is hinting that the Series X/S will be their last console.

The reality is that technological advancement has hit a wall. For years, advancement seemed to be exponential, but we've seemingly flatlined. The current console generation was released far too soon (not to mention launching in the middle of the most serious global crisis since the Second World War was a very questionable move).

The next consoles need to be purposely designed with a life expectancy of at least 10 years. The 5 year cycle that existed in the 90s and 00s is obsolete, Sony and Microsoft need to stop pretending otherwise.

electabuzz my ballsack

My AMP is 197 right now. I never pay attention to it so I don't know if it's high or low. I guess we'll see.

Ah, yes.

PlayStation, Xbox, and Game Console.

Canadian news is mostly fine, I'd say about a 7. There are strict regulatory standards that they need to follow in order to legally qualify as "news".

US news on the other hand is an abomination.

My oldest active is from the sticky topic on the Ocarina of Time board from April 2006. That's 18 years ago next month, holy.

Barring sticky topics, the next oldest is just from August 2023 on the MGS Master Collection board.

Lokarin posted...

Joltickle ma balls

lmao hell yeah

slugma balls

I have Glover on the N64. That's probably the weirdest game I own.

It's very strange living in these times. We went from such relative peace to having the US reelect a fascist that openly has encouraged Russia to attack NATO allies. He easily could just not be that way and his inbred followers would still vote for him.

Future generations won't be able to understand this.

Boebert is a garbage person elected by even shittier people.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Considering he spent his entire Presidency constantly having roadblocks thrown up by grandstanding political rivals and being torn down by media, it's not as if he could have accomplished much of value regardless of whether or not his intended policies or goals were worthwhile or not (and I'm not even claiming they were).

But that's a level of perspective most people are utterly incapable of these days, because lol orange man bad.

Yeah, him spreading blatant lies hourly, withholding Congress approved military aid to Ukraine in exchange for intel on the family of his political rival, him giving White House positions to every immediate family member, him exclusively appointing sycophants to important positions, him pardoning any criminal that proved themselves loyal to improving either his political power or his wealth, him refusing to act on COVID early, him spreading conspiracies regarding it including whether or not COVID even existed this spreading mass confusion amongst his cult followers and exacerbating the already difficult situation even further, him encouraging untested treatments for COVID (including but not limited to having using a flashlight as an anal probe, injecting bleach, and using sheep deworming medicine), him refusing to step down from the presidency after losing an election, him spreading conspiracies that his rival has stolen the election, him encouraging his cult members to attack the Capitol building to prevent the peaceful transfer of power, him stealing confidential documents and then lying about it, and certainly many other things I can't remember off the top of my head.

Yeah PO, all those things are because the media is mean to Trump. So very mean. Orange man isn't bad.

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It's probably something going around because I've had the same thing for about 3 weeks. And I have a cough.

I've had tonsil stones before but that doesn't seem to be what this is. The taste reminds me of the smell of a new car or something. It definitely is originating from the very back of my mouth because I typically only taste it when swallowing.

You should see a doctor about this. 10+ drinks a day is pretty intense alcoholism. I'm no expert but it would probably be wise to get medical advice from your doctor, especially since you say you've had serious withdrawals before.

If you're from the US and have to pay for a GP visit, just do it.

I almost did in HeartGold. I had all the Pokemon from the first three gens. I just couldn't get all the Sinnoh ones.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

I feel kinda bad for bullying this fat kid in high school named Mark. He used to take dumps after 3rd period English and we all caught on to him leaving skiddys in the bowl, we started calling him skid mark

That poor guy lmao. When I was in high school this one guy in my gym class took the most putrid, rank shit in the change room toilet one day that I chose to abandon my regular clothes in there until after the next class.