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Actually, he's wrong. If I did a fraction of what he's done, I'd be under a prison and I'd have no loyal cult pledging their life to save me.

Massively privileged rich man who has gotten special treatment his whole life has somehow convinced tens of millions of people that he's the biggest victim in the world.

Yes

Prestoff posted...

Yep, all the MAGA people I know in real life are going nuclear on their social media accounts lol. Soo much conspiracy theories about how the satanic deep state government is trying to undermine the Trump who is fighting for American and Christianity.

I'd actually have more respect for MAGAs if they just admitted Trump is rotten and that's why they love him. So sick of then invoking Christianity. Trump doesn't even pretend to be a Bible thumper. He's a foul-mouthed womanizer that screams about how much he hates immigrants. He doesn't proselytize. He never talks about faith.

It's like if a bunch of vegans rallied around a guy who drinks animal blood and proclaimed him the most moral vegan in history.

Sonixs posted...

They truly believe this guarantees him a win in the election.

It's such an insane level of cope.

Shouldn't they be celebrating it then? I mean, if this is good for Trump, then they should be so happy that Joe Biden made up a crime and made a court find Trump guilty of it. And yet they are pissed.

I feel like every topic about rightwing violence on CE these days ends up with some weirdo crying for pages about how unfairly they were treated on CE.

omniryu posted...

My guy it is fucking facts. You're trying to put words in my mouth that I want Trump to be free. But I call shut out. Then be fair and say Nancy Pelosi needs to be investigated for insider day trading or benefitting from laws that influence stocks.

No one cares because it isn't trump.

Should we also put a hold on all rape and murder trials until we take down every poltician and celebrity who may have done the same?

omniryu posted...

That sounds like you guys didn't want a genuine trial. I don't care for Trump. Never voted for him, never will, but I am calling out how all this works out on both sides.

But it is a genuine trial because Trump has genuinely been committing felonies on the regular since long before he got into politics. He is genuinely facing a lot of legal trouble and he genuinely got convicted yesterday of crimes he genuinely committed.

But "we guys" said Trump needs to be kept out of office, so that means... what? He got away with his crimes this long, so now everyone needs to wait until he is politically irrelevant before addressing the crimes? Because even though the trials are completely legitimate, you don't like why people care about them?

Did you also think that maybe if Trump wasn't a career con man, rapist and traitor, that maybe he wouldn't be so hated? Perhaps his routinely evil and literally illegal actions are what make him such an enemy. Maybe the fact that he is major political figure instead of a random garbage man brings more spotlight to his transgressions, brings him more heat.

omniryu posted...

Fine, I just wanted to state my observation.

"Haha called it" is a weird post in a topic about people threatening terrorism because a felon was convicted of felonies.

Especially since no one ever said that threat wouldn't exist

Imagine proclaiming that you will die for the host of The Apprentice, and accusing the other side of being a cult.

omniryu posted...

And you lack reading comprehension. I told you they perceive it as a witch hunt. You guys just wanted to attack folks for not saying the exact Trump is a felon.

Either way, who cares what they perceive? That doesn't factor in to whether or not committing felonies should get someone convicted

Trumpers: "We will fucking murder you if you convict Trump for the felonies he committed!"

Court: "Uh ok. Still guilty."

CEman: "I mean, they'd said there'd be retribution and you convicted him anyway. I told you guys it was a bad idea."

omniryu posted...

@DrizztLink

You got made and accused of me republican because I called out what they were going to do

You're right, bud. If someone commits a bunch of felonies, the court should consider how mad the convict's fans will be at the sentence.

Imagine what they'd say if leftists had promised to murder people over the "Biden Crime Family" shit

Bigot: "Yo screw these dumb gay people"

Rando: "Hey, shut the hell up, asshole"

Bigot: "I'm a human being goddamnit! My life has value! Muh rights! Muh speech!"

Why is the GOP pushing the Biden Crime Family shit? Don't they know how good it would be for Biden if he was actually found guilty of crimes?

More people planning on committing felonies should consider running for political office. Apparently it's dangerous to hold someone accountable for their crimes if they call themselves a politician.

cabcalloway1983 posted...

No way Trump loses in November.

LOL

"Witch hunt" is a weird term to use when the person on trial has literally committed dozens of felonies.

cjsdowg posted...

You keep posting this. It doesn't matter what Biden and Trump say. It matters what they do. Biden is okay with them crossing his own red line. And he just moves that redline back again while giving Israel more aid.

And we know from experience that what Trump and his cult DO is as bad as what they SAY

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

No, it's a sacrifice Joe Biden is apparently willing to make for the murderous Israeli regime. He is putting his own re-election, and the lives of everyone the fascist GOP deems enemies, at risk by alienating people who would otherwise vote for him.

He can't put his re-election at risk if people vote in their best interests instead of worrying about feeling like they're somehow blindly supporting the Democratic Party by doing so.

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LinkDaLunatic posted...

It's complete garbage that this doesn't preclude him from candidacy for president of the goddamn United States. Felons can barely get a job at McDonalds and this actual filth still gets to run for president?

But I was told Trump is the most unfairly treated person in America.

cjsdowg posted...

I take worse about the Republicans then all of you do. So this But Trump thing isn't going to work. I never suggest Trump would do better , and in fact I have countless times said he would be worse for americans if he gets elected .

Then voting for whoever is running against him is a no-brainer. And I'm supposed to believe that notoriously selfish Americans are so moved by the plight of Palestinians they have no will to live if neither party will protect Palestine?

Trumble posted...

Are Americans still pretending their politics doesn't affect the literal entire fucking world?

Then you should be begging for Biden to win

Well then I guess we can sit home and then when healthcare is illegal and millions of innocent Americans are murdered by the government, at least we'll know the Democrats learned a lesson for the 3 minutes before the country was engulfed in hellfire.

Trumble posted...

And in order for that to happen, Democrats need to be a party that young progressive people are willing to be part of.

Which for a lot of them, means not fucking supporting a genocide.

Here's the thing. Republicans are fucked on this issue. They're always going to be fucked, nothing will change them, so it's a waste of time putting any effort besides discouraging support for them. Any half reasonable person already won't support them, so even that's of limited use.

Democrats, on the other hand, there's a chance. That's why it's actually worthwhile to call them out, to encourage pressure on them, etc. Even more so if third party is unrealistic, because that's the only way forward, so it first needs to become something that the people who'll take it forward are willing to be involved with.

Or, I guess, you can just sit back, whine "but Trump", and pretend the problems will just magically disappear if you get the current status quo Democrats back into office enough times in a row (assuming Palestine even still exists beyond the first term or two of this approach).

The Democrats won't learn shit if Trump wins because the party will be banished and all the young people who oppose the GOP will fucked for the rest of their lives.

I will always "but Trump" because defeating the GOP is the only thing that matters for this election. If Biden or whatever ham sandwich running opposes to him isn't equally as bad or worse, then further details don't matter.

Trumble posted...

Hm, what could possibly be ongoing at the moment that might have drawn significantly more attention to this matter than it's had in the past?

How many innocent people have been raped and bombed by our government directly over the years? How many war crimes have our allies committed? No, I'm really not sure what changed.

cjsdowg posted...

People have been complaining about the a ongoing support the US as given to the SA . And a genocide happening is the not same thing as the US aiding in a genocide and protecting the people doing it.

They said genocides are the most important issue on the globe. Is that all genocides or only ones committed by our home country's allies?

I'm just wondering why this is the election where we can no longer stomach American foreign policy and should stop voting. Not the tons of other elections where we were fully aware of the shit that goes on, but the election where WE WILL ALL SUFFER FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES if we don't vote against the GOP. I'm sure the dead Gazans will appreciate that we've decided to go with them to the grave. That will surely better the world in some way.

1337toothbrush posted...

Maybe biden should clear the US's plate of israel instead of handing them billions upon billions upon billions of dollars and weapons then.

Why are we acting like America hasn't had bipartisan-backed evil fucking foreign policy for 50+ years? It's kind of a given at this point. We have a duty to do our best in America in spite of that. Maybe if we fix our shit at home, we can fix how we behave with the rest of the globe. No one would have handled it better than as bad as Biden has.

Smashingpmkns posted...

America is providing weapons that enable this genocide. On a global scale there really isn't anything more immediately important than an active genocide. Idk how this isn't clicking.

So should America also stop voting and let fascism take over until we stop allying with Saudi Arabia and also personally end genocides in places like China, Ukraine, Nigeria, Sudan, Afghanistan, North Korea, Myanmar, etc?

Or are American issues more important than foreign genocides as long as America's friends aren't committing them?

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"I don't care about the world I live in or myself"

TC must also not care about water or air.

CountCorvinus posted...

Yup.

There's a phrase for those types of Democrats that rhymes with "clue gaga" but AssaultTank would get very upset with me if I were to post it

BLUE MAGA HAS NEVER FUCKING EXISTED

Fuck fucking Joe Biden. He's a piece of shit.

Not a single goddamn person on this board has a cult-like worship of Joe Biden. Hell, you'll be hard pressed to find a non-Republican here who supports Israel's actions or thinks America is doing the right thing in that regard.

And you know I'm right.

Trump supporters are the worst people in the history of America and there has never been supporters of any other major candidate in our history with anything close to that level of cultism

cjsdowg posted...

Biden literally bypassed congress to given money to Israel we are given them Billions. And Biden is making himself look as bad as Trump. On this issue. Why are you guys just admit what is going on and stop gaslighting ppl. Kirby just said the attack on civilian tent camp didn't cross any lines for Biden. But I am trying to make him look bad?

Literally no one in any of these topics is ever not admitting what's going on in Israel.

But I'm sure Trump will be much better for black Americans than Biden.

Smashingpmkns posted...

This meme will age like milk when Biden wins and Gaza is still leveled

Maybe Israel should stop being genocidal then. America has more on their plate than Gaza.

CountCorvinus posted...

Some people would rather be stabbed in the face than stabbed in the back.

Some people would rather be shot in the head than punched in the stomach

1337toothbrush posted...

The topic: "biden's handling of israel is costing him votes"

The responses: "TRUMP IS WORSE! VOTERS DON'T MATTER!! YOU'RE ALL SECRETLY TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN DISGUISE!!!"

We're hurtling towards a 2016-esque result. It's playing out mostly the same, it's almost like no lessons were learned.

Hmm votes imply discussion of an election. The next election is the 2024 Presidential election. There are only two parties with a chance to win that election. Joseph Biden represents the Democrats. Donald Trump represents the Republicans. Not voting for Biden makes it easier for Trump to win. Trump is objectively worse for the country and his cultist party has proved their threat over and over since 2016.

"Hmm why people say Trump name?"

Clearly no lessons have been learned if everyone isn't voting against the GOP out of pure fear. 8 years of a party doing all they can to doom us all and people are still like "I dunno. That's bad, but what is the other party doing besides not that? I need positives."

Alteres posted...

Ive been pointing out this technique will get more and more dangerous very quickly for a few years now, it is starting to hit now and will only get worse.

there is no war in

There is a war. Israel is genociding Palestinians because Netanyahu and his government hate Palestinians and have unfortunately taken cues from Hitler. It is fucking bullshit that the US allies with rotten shithole countries like Israel.

Now that we have that out of the way, Biden and Trump are the only two possibilities and Trump is objectively worse for Palestinians AND the people in actual America where American voters reside. It is obvious that voting for Biden is the only choice that makes sense. That doesn't make anything that Biden does good. He is merely a warm body that is less bad than the fascist GOP, and that is all that matters. One of them is winning no matter what, so we have a duty to ourselves, not the Democrats, to vote against Trump. Anyone who disagrees doesn't actually care about people, because people who care about other don't throw up their hands and say "let it burn" because there are no "happily ever after" choices. Someone who actually cares about others would try to minimize damage, not do nothing and wish really hard that there was world peace while everything burns faster.

Trumble posted...

On the other hand, we're yet to see a single argument why what Biden's doing is okay that doesn't resort to comparing him to someone who is nearly universally acknowledged as an utter piece of shit.

The election is only between these two! Everyone has to accept reality. If someone can't stomach bad things happening, then I guess they are going to collapse into a singularity when they realize not voting is not going to manifest a third good option into existence. They are just going to sit back and watch the worse option win and everything they claim to care about get fucked even harder and then infect everything else.

It's like watching the building you are in burn and letting it collapse because you worry that mitigating the damage might make it look like you're trying to minimize the crimes of the arsonists.

teep_ posted...

Thought police itt harassing anyone saying anything other than "I support Biden 100%" smh

Like, I live in the former Socialist part of Germany and am finding some of the posts itt chilling

Literally no one is saying "I support Biden 100%"

Take your bullshit and shut the fuck up.

Bunch of accelerationists and secret Republicans pretending to give a single shit about Palestinians

"Please apologize for having opinions on me based on my opinions. I have free speech "

Arg

luigi33 posted...

If he wins, FUCK Biden's Zionist positions. It will have costed him an easy fucking election.

oh and ofcourse yeah, Fuck the country too.

How can it cost him an easy election?

He's not the fascist GOP. Literally nothing else matters. There are two options and one is objectively worse. There is only one logical, sane, moral choice. Anyone who even hesitates is part of the problem. A rotting banana should earn America's vote if it was in Biden's position.

1337toothbrush posted...

There are plenty of single issue voters. It's gross to try and police what people care about. I'd say as far as single issues go, being against *genocide* is pretty dang noble.

Are they noble when they don't care if Americans are genocided? They literally only care about Gaza, and even then only care that they don't feel accountable for their deaths by voting.

No, they are absolutely full of shit and they couldn't find nobility if they typed it into Google. There is nothing noble or moral about seeing a bad situation and going "Fuck this shit. If neither said will fix this situation, then fuck the world. I don't give a shit who lives or dies. I'm not mitigating anything."

Imagine being a woman who is a single-issue Gaza voter.

"Man, it sure would be bad if America executed me and other women for getting abortions, but all I really care about is saving the Gazan people from their Israeli oppressors. If neither side in America can do that, then neither side earns my vote. Save Gaza from Israel or I don't care if you kill us all. That's how much I cherish all lives."

People call me a doomer when there are others out here arguing that a significant portion of Americans are so jaded that they'd literally rather die than continue voting for less bad every election.

1337toothbrush posted...

Saying "well trump will probably make it go faster" or "he'll include American citizens in there somehow" is just pure conjecture based on trump's bloated ass spewing hot air.

Weird how some American voters are extremely passionate and know every gory detail of the Israel-Gaza situation, but have apparently not seen or heard of a single action of Trump or the GOP in the last 8 years.

How many times does the GOP need to utterly fuck America before maybe their threat is considered more than conjecture? If 50 consecutive darts hit a bullseye, conjecture would be assuming the next one will miss the board entirely. It's foolish to see the shit that has been going on in this country, and in 2024, still see the GOP as merely a bunch of bluster that the Democrats assume will scare people into their waiting arms.

Biden is doing what literally any US President would do with Israel by giving them tons of support, and the Republicans are screaming about how pro-Hamas and antisemitic he is, while certain elements of the left say he is basically slaughtering Palestinian babies with his bare hands because he's the most psycho Zionist in US history.

Weird situation to say the least.

1337toothbrush posted...

Why are people assuming even more genocide if biden loses? He's already supporting israel to the maximum. Just because he says he's frustrated or that he has a red line, doesn't mean he actually does anything to stop or slow them down, as we've all seen. trump wouldn't pretend to care, but pretending to care doesn't matter if there is no limit to support of genocide regardless. This is that dumb "decorum" shit that democrats place way too much importance on.

Also, the "this is a small issue, no one actually cares, and biden has this election guaranteed unless he dies" talking point reeks of 2016 hillary.

Anyone who claims to only care about this one issue is a fraud and what they believe is bullshit

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Shockingly, Palestine one issue voters who think "voting for a genocide enabler is unconsciable" (crazy thought amirite) apply that thought to Biden and Trump equally.

Not voting enables more genocide. Shit, the other party wants to not just have a foreign ally that commits genocide, but to commit genocide of their own in their own country.

Single-issue voters can apparently handle any amount of innocent blood as long as they don't vote and feel personally icky about it.

The only issue they really seem to care about is keeping their conscience clean. If Palestinians are screwed either way, they won't vote. If lots of other people are screwed one way, they still won't vote. They're actually zero issue voters.