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Mt first Persona game was the P1 remake for the PSP and I enjoyed it but it certainly isn't for everyone since it's very archaic in design like very high random encounters. Persona 3 reloaded is pretty sweet and pretty accessible.

It's a Disney money so probably not very historically accurate. To be fair movies are made with entertainment in mind, even movies that sell themselves as historically accurate tend to not be very accurate.

It's a fun tool to use but it's never going to replace real art. You can spot from a mile away it's imperfections.

I'm guessing it's a cultural thing. In Latin American culture it's common for people to kiss each other in the cheek as a form of greeting.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Can someone explain to me why the battles in The Patriot (Mel Gibson) seemed to be fought by the armies essentially lining up and taking it in turns RPG-style to fire at each other? Seems like a horrendously idiotic and wasteful way to fight. Is the movie just inaccurate in that sense, or is that really how war was fought?

First you shouldn't really take movies to accurately represent any sort of warfare, they're created with entertainment in mind. If movies reflected real life than battles would've turned into a chaotic brawl instead of using formations which are useful in keeping you alive in battle.

Here's a useful twitter post that links to other useful twitter posts on 18th century warfare from an academic:
https://twitter.com/KKriegeBlog/status/1733571363477115062

https://twitter.com/catgirlprostate/status/1758915112591626474

Maybe the new Persona 3 game since it's on the gamepass. The only persona game I've played is the remake for the PSP.

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Was it made in VX ace?

TheHoldSteady posted...

sakurai can't make a good ganon damn

I've heard he's pretty decent in Melee.

markconig posted...

Last time I looked, Pikachu and Joker were fighting for 1 and 2, with I think Peach at 3.

What happened with Sonic that made him shoot up?

Zamn, that's a very 2019 take. Sonic got some buffs and Sonix showcased what the character is capable of.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/31fd0cc1.jpg

woof

Pikachu

The Chosen One from Fallout 2, if you choose to keep him one.

Cucker Tarlson

I've had a lot of fun with Kingsvein.

I mean people make serious commercial products with RPG Maker. A lot of the most famous RPG maker games are non-RPGs but you have the original Lisa the Painful being made with RPG Maker and both Fear & Hunger games being made in the engine.

Drunk_Cobra posted...

I cannot believe how bad Cromwell fumbled the bag on moving past a monarchy.

Getting rid of the monarchy was never the goal. It took King Charles I escaping, making a deal with the Scottish Covenanters and starting another civil war to have justification to kill the king and it was still an unpopular move that Cromwell had to purge parliament of those supporting to keep the king alive.

ai123 posted...

When there were different kingdoms, it wasn't civil war, but wars between nation states.

The English Civil War refers to the conflict between forces loyal to King Charles I, and forces loyal to Parliament, which took place 1642-1651.

Don't forget the Covenanter Scots.

I was born in Mexico and lived there for my first 8 or 9 years. As far as I know my ancestry is that of your typical Mestizo but in my mom's side apparently there were some Jews who fled to Mexico during the 30s. My great grandmother from my dad's side was kidnapped by an indigenous man who lived in a cave from what my grandma told me, she told me her family was Spanish.

I think at this point culturally I'm more American than Mexican, in Mexico Americanized Mexicans are called "pochos". But I speak Spanish frequently to co-workers with weak English and my parents and family.

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Stronghold if not that Super Mario RPG

I played the for King Or Country mod for Medieval 2 Total War. Also I like the aesthetic of the war.

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Another one in Houston smh

DragulaRULEZ posted...

Pirates used to wear eyeliner.

IIRC Pirates of the Caribbean started the trend of depicting pirates with eyeliner.

Agumon solos

Probably the Sims

Mussurana posted...

Don't confuse Athens with all Greece.

Every city had its own system of governance (and usually its own brand of constitutional crisis), customs could differ a lot too.

True but the biggest issue is what sources survive. Athens is pretty much the best attested city-state of ancient greece due to surviving works and also because of the status it reached in the Hellenistic and Roman era.

From what we know Athens is actually the outlier when it comes to women's rights. Both in Sparta and Gortyn in Crete women had more rights than women in Athens. But again, the issue comes from what survived to this day and what was written down and most of that comes from Athens with archeology and surviving inscriptions as other sources.

Which, keeping this post on topic, why trying to say anything about the past becomes messy. In the context of homosexual relationships most of what we know stems from the practice of pederasty which was practiced by the elite. Since the literature that survives all comes from the rich it can distort the way we perceive the past since the vast majority of people were working to survive and didn't have the luxury to write down their thoughts, our view of the past is filtered through the lenses of the rich. In the case of "historical accuracy" it's difficult to really say how the vast majority of people felt, Robot2600 brings up good points but I would add that homosexual relationships outside of pederasty were rare, but not unknow as we see such relationships in Plato's symposium, and considered weird since, again, society expected men to marry women and have children. Pederasty was a mentor relationship with sexual elements with various authors voicing their own opinions on this, and apparently the sex aspect was against the law in some states. But as Robot26000 states, it appears there wasn't stigma against men having sex with each other but rather effeminate behavior.

Something that hasn't really been talked about in this thread is the fact that Alexander the Great came from Macedonia, and while the Macedonian Elites adopted parts of Greek (and Thracian and Persian) culture they had their own unique culture. Indeed there were aspects of Macedonian culture that were considered "barbarian" by the Greeks such as royal polygamy and the heavy drinking of unmixed wine which is probably why the reception to the Argead's, Alexander's family, claim to Greekness was met with mixed reactions. In terms of homosexual relationships within Macedonian royalty there's the fact that Philip II of Macedon's assassination was linked to the love affairs with his own bodyguards and the sons of leading aristocratic families spent their teenage years serving the Macedonian court to cultivate relationships with the royal family. So despite the fact that our sources come centuries after the death of Alexander, and the fact that they had a vested interest in constructing a moralizing story, it's possible there was a romantic relationship between Hephaestion and Alexander. As for Bagoas, the eunuch of the Persian king, it's also possible that he was used as a to construct the moralizing narrative of a great king taking the trappings of a "decadent" Persian monarch.

ROBANN_88 posted...

Going past the whole sexuality thing, anyone know if the rest of the show is any good?

How's the costume design?
Are there any like studded leather bikers?

It's trash. It's full of fantasy leather gear and dull colors, trying too hard to go for the "Game of Throne" look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX6ChkoidOQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io4C7BJ9cGc

mybbqrules posted...

This reminds me that in 300 when the Persian envoy came to meet with Leonidas (the "This is SPARTA!" scene) Leonidas actually commented

"I heard the Athenians turned you down. Now if those philosophers and boy lovers found that kind of nerve..."

Athens is the capitol of Greece.

Plus, isn't "greek" also slang for backdoor love in certain circumstances?

According to Xenophon pederastic relationships in Sparta were platonic in nature and not sexual. However I don't think most scholars take this claim at face value, it's likely he's trying to portray the Spartans as exemplars of moderation. Those types of relationships were pretty common among elite circles and are pretty well attested. While solosnake is right to point out that the surviving accounts of Alexander, Ploutarkhos and Arrian for example, were written centuries after his death and there's proof that these authors were more concerned with telling a story more so than reporting facts, such as the episode over proskynesis reflecting more on contemporary Roman concerns than those of the Macedonians of the 4th century BC, it's not unlikely that Alexander did have homosexual relationships given his background as Macedonian royalty.

A lot of alt-right and reactionary types are obsessed with the past and see the Romans and Greeks as people to be revered so it's expected OP type of reactions are expected. However real history is much more complex than reducing Alexander, or ancient societies in general, as "straight", "gay", even "furry" as someone mentioned here and other labels used here. 300 in particular conceptualizes the Spartans as these freedom loving people who saved Western civilization from the decadent Persians.

name_unknown posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8a74e407.jpg
you see what he was wearing into battle?

I remember watching this ages ago lol

Funnily enough historians in twitter were complaining about the costumes of the documentary since they're wearing this bizarre fantasy leather gear.

https://twitter.com/EvanSchultheis/status/1754573085707997314

There's a few Checkers here in Houston.

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Definitely clothes, I don't live in an environment where things like sport coats are needed. But if I had to pick one it's definitely would be this jacket I had made back in 2017, the styling and color are pretty out there, an electric blue cashmere sport jacket with an action back which looks like something out of the 1970s.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5523295e.jpg

Vaporeon
Espeon
Gardevoir
Lopunny
Zoroark
Delphox
Salazzle
Cinderace
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...

Noooooo Rome was much stricter. If you were the submissive/passive partner at all, that was bad regardless of your age. With maybe, maaaaaaybe the exception being young boys. Emphasis on young and boy. And even then... well, they still would mock the shit out of you.

Well, in the context of Ancient Greece there wasn't suppose to be any penetration going on even in pederastic relationship between an aristocratic man and boy. Ideally, and this should be stressed that it's ideal, there would be thigh fucking and no penetration involved but we shouldn't be naive about it. Xenophon, famed Athenian writer, survivor of the march of the men of kyros the younger and leader, was pretty adamant that there was no sexual acts going on in Sparta since he sent his own sons thought the agoge, but, again, it's very likely that wasn't really the case.

I'm going to repost a post I made in another dead thread:

As I said on my original post what survived to us in the modern-day stems from the upper crust of society, what the Hellenes referred to as the "leisure class". These were leisured gentlemen who didn't have to work for a living instead relying on the blood and sweat of enslaved people to maintain their lifestyle, ideally, they would use this free time to better themselves for the defense and management of their communities. Reading them and believing they represent the general opinion of people back than is like people 2,000 years into the future believing Elon Musk represents the opinion of modern people. Sadly we can't really assume to much on how the average person felt about these types of relationships.

We have to put it in context, pederasty was an aristocratic institution which is the class writers belonged to so it can make it seem like it was more common than it actually was. These relationship were arranged by families and involved eromenos, young boys, starting from the age of 12 to the age of 17 and erastes, older men. This is what the Roman era poet Straton of Sardis writes:

I delight in the prime of a boy of twelve, but one of thirteen is much more desirable. He who is fourteen is a still sweeter flower of the Loves, and one who is just beginning his fifteenth year is yet more delightful. The sixteenth year is that of the gods, and as for the seventeenth it is not for me, but for Zeus, to seek it. But if one has a desire for those still older, he no longer plays, but now seeks And answering him back.

And it appear that these types of relationships to continue past the age of 17 were looked down upon, as well as having relationship with a boy below the age of 12, from Straton:

That an immature boy should do despite to his insensible age carries more disgrace to the friend who tempts him than to himself, and for a grown-up youth to submit to sodomy, his season for which is past, is twice as disgraceful to him who consents as it is to his tempter. But there is a time, Moiris, when it is no longer unseemly in the one, and not yet so in the other, as is the case with you and me at present.

These mentor relationships had a sexual component to them that involved the sexual abuse of children, according to Xenophon the Athenian who sent his own sons through the agoge this wasn't happening in Sparta, and ideally involved intercrural sex rather than penetration. These types of relationships were also meant to end once the eromenos reached the age of 17, and as seen by what Straton wrote and the case of Pausanias and Agathon it was looked down if they persisted.

These men were also expected to marry and have children of their own as well. And as I posted above the act of penetration was seen as shameful for a man because it was perceived that it put him in the role of a woman. It's not really progressivism, our modern perception of what is "gay" doesn't neatly map into the past. A man could engage in homosexual sex as long as he wasn't the one being submissive with an enslaved man or a prostitute while also being married to a woman and having children of his own, this was not perceived as being either "gay" nor "bisexual". Likewise relationships between men were acceptable to an extend.

Some additional notes, the abuse and rape of children wasn't just limited to boys but also girls since girls around the same age range of boys would be forced to marry men usually in their 30s. Macedonian kings, much like neighboring Illyrian and Thracian kings, practiced polygamy while the Greeks did not.

Miley Kyros

Still having fun with Kingsvein but I'll probably play Septerra Core soonish. Touched it back in 2017 but I kinda want to play it again.

I can finish one in one sitting but not two.

sutree posted...

Pretty cool. How much does one of them cost on average?

Since I like good fabric they tend to run about 2k+ plus the shirt and pants so about 3k. The great thing is that the tailor is a good older Mexican gentleman and friend of mine so he's very flexible when it comes to payment plans. These are all made via a personal pattern so it's not made to measure. However there's cheaper fabrics that can lessen the cost of the jacket greatly so you can get a jacket for about 1k or less since fabric cost is what will run up the price.

Yup, the various custom jackets I had made over the past seven years. I'd saw a total of about 12 jackets from my estimates since I'm too lazy to count them all. Here's an example of one.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fa847420.jpg

I like how there's zero subtlety here lmao.

What about eating a Vaporeon

Random Insanity was 12 years ago