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ConfusedTorchic posted...

cool

none of which has anything to do with what you stated, nor is even part of the suggested bill lmao

Are you actually this oblivious or is this the classic "trolling by acting incredibly stupid" bit?

sull56ivan2010 posted...

Doesn't make a difference. Disabled or enabled, those NSFW games continued to exist. And no company, doesn't matter who, would want to be associated.

The fact is that Steam and Itch were perfectly fine with being associated with it. And up to a couple days ago, Visa and MC were perfectly fine being associated with it. Maybe you want to associate with the moralizing Karens but you are hardly in the majority.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

it literally has nothing, and still doesn't, to do with what you claimed lmfao

i have no idea what you think that means with regards to "requiring gps", but it doesn't.

Congestion pricing would require geo-fencing, as there's no other way of telling whether the vehicle is being driven in downtown Chicago rather than a dinky 5k population town in the south end of the state. Likewise the "type of road" would require GPS, as driving speed cannot necessarily tell whether the driver is on interstate, state highways, rural roads, etc. The ONLY way to determine that conclusively would be by GPS location of the car while it moves.

It's possible that such data could be stripped out prior to the data being delivered to the state, but the stated goals cannot be reached without that data being collected in the first place.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

i cant think of any major rental services that don't take amex

Not a rental service but apparently Costco doesn't take AmEx.

Sarcasthma's block list is similarly long. Quoting them means a good fraction of the board can't see your post.

ConfusedTorchic posted...

gotta love someone angry at something they were only told about by a grifter serving a bias

From the same article you didn't cite, hoping I wouldn't find it:

The proposed legislation, SB1938, allows for variable pricing by time of day and by road type. This opens the door to potential congestion pricing and smarter infrastructure load balancing. While the bill doesnt mandate it, there is nothing stopping the state from also tiering the fee by vehicle weight which, along with time of day and road type, would bring us even closer to matching tax policy with actual impact.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewleahey/2025/06/22/illinois-vehicle-mileage-tax-fix-the-roads-and-fund-the-future/

Revelation34 posted...

What would be higher? The removed content isn't illegal in America so it can't be the government.

There are obvious answers to this that are mostly dismissed as conspiracy theories. The same people responsible for female characters being beaten with the ugly stick in western games but not in Asian games are also major investors in Visa and Mastercard. There's no "smoking gun" proof but anyone capable of pattern recognition can put 2 and 2 together.

Revelation34 posted...

Literally everybody on this forum except for PO and capt wouldn't have had one since everybody else would have been a minor in the 90s.

I think more of us were born in the 1970s than you think.

Revelation34 posted...

It will get overturned if that bill passes. We just need a lot of people to contact their senators.

You're far more optimistic than I am. Compare this to the Stop Killing Games petition: 100,000 signatures to get anyone to even look at it vs. 1400 screeching Karens going from emails to action in like a week.

Vicaris posted...

But you know if itch knew exactly what they had in the store they wouldn't need to carpet bomb the entire nsfw side of the store.

I think they were told to nuke anything even remotely NSFW, not that they were told to take down some of it and they got excessively trigger happy.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Four people playing on a couch, only need one copy of the game.
Four people playing online, need four copies of the game.

That's what happened.

I hate to give anyone ideas, but selling "DLC" that enables local multiplayer can't be that difficult and avoids the problem of having to support game servers.

Revelation34 posted...

It would be the opposite since there's a counter group to the original removal that includes the ACLU.

But less than 2000 screeching Karens apparently outweigh the ACLU and national governments.

ooger posted...

Literally the most unique crash out.

One good thing about PotD is it doesn't have a minimum user level, so if I really want to I can see posts from people who blocked me if I really want to. I'm now regretting having done so. How is post 51 still up?

There's a whole lot of missing posts ITT. Looks like one of the usual suspects is crashing out.

captpackrat posted...

The big problem is that the definition of "adult" will keep growing. The people behind a lot of this stuff want to get rid of things like games with gay or trans characters even when there's no sex, nudity, or anything else in them.

I expect them to go after "graphic violence" next. Imagine your next CoD game needs to be Loony Toons animation to be Visa/MC compliant.

josh posted...

If the 99th and 100th vase are one of a kind unique how can the 100th be "more" one of a kind unique? They're absolutely unique in their own way.

If nothing else, the 99th could be packaged and shipped in the same materials as the first 98, while the 100th could not.

josh posted...

What you're TRYING to say is that the 100th vase has more unique features but that doesn't make it more unique.

In fact it does, but no one expects you to accept that self-evident fact.

Humble_Novice posted...

They're a conservative group that's looking to censor anything they deem "immoral".

Among other things they consider all anime to be "CP".

josh posted...

Edit: I'm mad

You're also wrong.

josh posted...

No, but I get angry when someone says "more" unique.

Bro, unique is a binary it either is or it isn't. You can't be more or less.

There are absolutely degrees of unique. I could buy a brand new vehicle that is "unique" because it has an individual VIN that makes it distinct from others that are otherwise identical. I could also have the same car be "unique" because I had a custom paintjob applied, but still have it functionally identical to the basic models on the showroom floor. Or I could have a "unique" vehicle that I fully customized with turbos, aftermarket suspension and tires, a custom sound system, custom lighting, completely altered interior, tinted windows, etc. until the damn thing is almost a Ship of Theseus conundrum.

All three options are different levels of "unique".

NephalimTechno posted...

Im just fed up with assholes trying to push my buttons

While absolutely delighting in pushing everyone else's buttons, as you admit in the other topic about playing loud music to annoy other people.

adjl posted...

That's especially silly given that the transaction records already essentially track where cardholders go, or at least where they spend money. GPS chips would be redundant.

I do have to question the logic, though, of believing that credit cards - which are manufactured and distributed by private companies - have government GPS chips in them, but cash - which is manufactured by the government - doesn't.

That would be silly. Everyone knows the government uses cash to gather DNA data from everyone who touches it, and the government can't possibly be efficient enough to use cash for two purposes when they can build an entirely separate second system at twice the cost.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/justifies-arrest-probable-cause.html

An arrest requires taking someone into custody, against that person's will, in order to prosecute or interrogate. It involves a physical application of force or submission to an officer's show of force. In sum, the arrestee must not be free to leave. Whether the act by the police is termed an arrest under state law is not relevant.

When deciding whether someone has been arrested, courts apply the "reasonable man" standard. This means asking whether a reasonable person, in the shoes of the defendant, would have concluded that they were not free to leave. If the answer is yes, it's an arrest.

No arrest happens when an officer approaches someone in a public place and asks if the person is willing to answer questions, as long as the officer does not restrain the person.

NephalimTechno posted...

i would really think they would have to arrest me to handcuff me and bring me to jail

They DID arrest you by constitutional law standards. Whether they called it an arrest or not is irrelevant.

agesboy posted...

"I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' frogs gay!"

hate the guy but that is the funniest shit ever to me. i wish the government WOULD make the frogs gay

What gets me is that, of all the batshit insane things that guy has said, the one that gets memed the most is the one that is sort of true. Technically it would be chemicals turning the frogs trans rather than gay, as some of the affected male frogs have testosterone suppressed to the point they become reproductively functional females.

https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/

These male frogs are missing testosterone and all the things that testosterone controls, including sperm. So their fertility is as low as 10 percent in some cases, and that is only if we isolate those animals and pair them with females, he said. In an environment where they are competing with unexposed animals, they have zero chance of reproducing.
The 10 percent or more that turn from males into females something not known to occur under natural conditions in amphibians can successfully mate with male frogs but, because these females are genetically male, all their offspring are male.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's never been any secret that there's a small town inside Cheyenne Mountain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAHBekea2Fc

A single obsolete military bunker - or even a handful of them, because there are more than just Cheyenne Mountain - does not translate to a 21 trillion dollar network of underground cities.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's Illinois, why stop at only two?

That's true. I expect my shoes to have GPS installed so I can be assessed a sidewalk usage tax as well. And a treadmill tax for those sneaky bastards who try to avoid the sidewalk tax.

NephalimTechno posted...

they never said I was under arrest they did not read me my rights at all

This is a common misconception. The police only have to read you your rights if you're being questioned while under arrest. By legal definition you were in fact under arrest even if they never officially told you but since no questioning was being done there was no legal requirement to read you your rights.

Revelation34 posted...

I support the idea of stealing property from people who just bought it.

Unless... you think maybe "the people who just bought it" would be the developers and/or city implementing the policy? That's the obvious goal for the policy, so it would take a very specific sort of person to make the assumption you did when making your post.

bachewychomp posted...

Ever since I became a homeowner myself, I understand the dilemma of affordable housing development vs. declining property values. I don't wanna be a NIMBY but I don't think it's fair that I could get a negative investment on this house that cost me a lot of money that I had basically no say in. I don't really see how it could work unless there are buyouts like you said (or tax incentives or subsidies or whatever)

Think of it as eminent domain but on the homeowner's timeline. The city/developer has to buy it for market price, but the homeowner must sell it to the city/developer and not anyone else. You'd lose the possibility of getting a price well over market but also not have the risk of the house not selling for market or taking 6 months to sell.

Questionmarktarius posted...

...only if it replaces the gas tax, instead of getting plopped right on top.

And you apparently think that's about as likely as I do. It's Illinois, why have one tax when you can have two?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Really, though, why build apartment blocks in suburbs, where the busses don't go?

Why allow single family houses to exist where buses do actually go? Draw a 500 yard circle around all existing bus stops and the next time any house inside the circle is sold, it gets knocked down for some sort of mid density housing. Maybe offer buyouts for some so developers can put larger structures on multiple adjoining lots. Maybe mix in light commercial as well.

Then add more bus stops and watch the NIMBYs explode.

The one thing that absolutely must be included is a reasonable percentage of new apartments have to be 3 and 4 bedroom units. People wanting to have kids shouldn't be automatically dumped into suburban single family homes solely for lack of housing suitable to raising kids.

Far-Queue posted...

Spoken like someone who's never been fighting a losing battle with their own anus while they rush home to carpet bomb their toilet

I actually saw a "I speed because I need to poop" license plate frame today.

On topic, Illinois has again floated the idea of a "miles driven" tax to replace the gas tax, as improved fuel efficiency and EVs mean revenue is down even as road usage increases. And of course one of the options under discussion is installing a GPS in every vehicle to not only track how many miles you drive but where and when - solely to allow surge pricing and precise allocation of tax revenue to the roads most used, of course.

bachewychomp posted...

You guys are avocado toasting in here and I'm the one trolling?

Yes, no question about it.

bachewychomp posted...

Why do you settle for low effort mediocrity in trolling? At least OhhhJa is putting some effort into pretending he's poor when he's objectively better off than about 70% of the country.

OhhhJa posted...

I dont really care what some news article or government source says about what percentage is considered struggling. And yeah, thats just the house note. Doesn't factor in groceries (which are outrageously expensive now), gas, daycare/school, car insurance/life insurance/medical insurance, doctor visits, other potential medical costs, car maintenance, home maintenance (my house is old), phone, utilities, taxes (that 140k is just gross income)

Everyone has those bills, and most of us have less income to meet them. Often a LOT less.

Revelation34 posted...

If it was how they "operate now" then they would not have been able to blackmail Steam.

I am describing how UTILITIES operate now, and saying this new law is effectively making payment processors operate under the rules utilities operate under. Thus my first post:

willythemailboy posted...

They're basically turning payment networks into a utility rather than a standard service. Your phone carrier, gas company, waste disposal service, etc. can't refuse service to you for being a convicted sex offender, but your bank and payment services currently can.

KingInBlack posted...

No, but their $90 mount last year made them more money than ever.

Microtransactions work. COD is dead on consoles and PC. The financial data was released in the lawsuit, it showed that COD Mobile made twice as much money than the PC and console versions COMBINED. COD Mobile is free. All that money was from microtransactions.

Makes sense. When Microsoft acquired Activision-Blizzard, they weren't particularly interested in either Activision or Blizzard. What they really wanted was the generally ignored King component of the company that focused on mobile games and made more money than Activision and Blizzard combined. Mobile games are far cheaper to make and print money in a way that would make the Fed chairman blush.

Revelation34 posted...

I already posted the relevant parts of the bill.

I've been trying to agree with you for the last 20 posts but you just keep arguing anyway.

OhhhJa posted...

I rarely vacation and almost never eat out. But again, my house note is 2500 a month and groceries are stupid expensive even though I shop at Aldi which is the cheapest grocery store around. Groceries and houses are literally like triple what they were 6-7 years ago. Guarantee if you make 80k as a household in my current situation you're only surviving off of your parents and/or government assistance

2500 a month is 30k a year, roughly 20% of your claimed income. That is below the housing expense level recommended by financial experts. I absolutely guarantee there are people making 80k and paying that much or more for housing and living without government assistance or mooching off their parents. A household isn't considered "stressed" by housing costs unless they're over 30% of their income going to housing, and for younger people that percentage is sometimes over 50%.

OhhhJa posted...

So many assumptions.

With the information we have, that's really all we can do. And that's fine; far better for us to be annoyingly speculative than for you to overshare personal information you shouldn't be posting online. But it's safe to say something significant isn't adding up in your story. Maybe it's childcare costs or an absurd amount of student debt you're paying off. That's fine, we don't need to know.

Your best option is to consult a professional financial planner, because it sounds like you're struggling when you shouldn't be and the sooner you stop the financial bleeding the better. College for that kid isn't going to be any cheaper for them than it was for you.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It turns out that more income just means you spend more.

Mo' money, mo' problems, but perhaps we shouldn't take budgeting advice from MC Hammer or Nick Cage.

Remember when we didn't get Starcraft 3 because Blizzard made more money selling the WoW sparkle pony mount than they did from the entire life cycle of Starcraft 2?

Questionmarktarius posted...

When you make $150k but spend $175k, you're gonna have problems.

ANY amount of income can run into that, but saying you're barely getting by when making almost double the median income is kind of insulting to actual struggling people.

Questionmarktarius posted...

...and the huge advantage credit card companies gain under this legislation, is that they'd be functionally immune from busybodies and firehoses.

You'd think that the credit card companies would be on board for this alone, but we'll see.

SinisterSlay posted...

I didn't know strippers took master card and visa. Where do they swipe them?

Because no strip club has a bar or anything, right?

Revelation34 posted...

The bill is about payment processors not being able to refuse service because of "reputational risk". The bill, if passed would mean they would have to reverse what they told Steam.

That is exactly the regime utilities operate under now. They cannot refuse to service a strip club, for example, regardless of "reputational risk" or any other factor other than nonpayment.

Revelation34 posted...

I think he said he lives in Atlanta in another thread. Not sure what the cost of living is there.

The median income in Atlanta is 82k for families and 48k for individuals. Considerably higher than my area in central Illinois but by no means making 150k "barely getting by". At a guess that would put him in the top 30% or so of income and I doubt 70% of the city is in poverty.

Revelation34 posted...

This bill is about them not being able to refuse service. The payment processors did not create it.

That is essentially what I said. I meant they to mean "the sponsor(s) of the bill" rather than "the payment processors".

Revelation34 posted...

2) JUSTIFICATION REQUIREMENT.A justification described in paragraph (1)(D) may not be based solely on the reputational risk to the covered bank.

(b) Prohibition.No payment card network, including a subsidiary of a payment card network, may, directly or through any agent, processor, or licensed member of the network, by contract, requirement, condition, penalty, or otherwise, prohibit or inhibit the ability of any person who is in compliance with the law, including section 8 of this Act, to obtain access to services or products of the payment card network because of political or reputational risk considerations.

They're basically turning payment networks into a utility rather than a standard service. Your phone carrier, gas company, waste disposal service, etc. can't refuse service to you for being a convicted sex offender, but your bank and payment services currently can.

The only cool cyber truck was the one Brandon Herrera turned into a Warthog from Halo.

OhhhJa posted...

Me and my wife make like 140-150k combined and it still feels like we barely make enough to get by

I live in an area where the median family income is 66k, or 30k for individuals. You have no idea how bonkers it is to hear that 150k is "barely getting by".

The best take I've seen on this: You have to give credit to Coldplay for producing four singles from a single concert.

Trialia posted...

Grow up, it does not. There have only been one or two people whose opinions even verged on that. Most were reasonably conditional. You're exaggerating for effect, and it doesn't look good on you.

Found the dog owner.

This is the first year my family isn't doing anything. Dad passed away last March and we did one last Easter in the house we all grew up in before selling it over the summer. One sister is taking her kids to the in-laws and I may go over to visit Mom in her new house tomorrow, but that's about it.

Cacciato posted...

Make sure its medium rare because if she asks for it well done you dont have to make it.

This site needs an upvote feature.

Far-Queue posted...

That's what I was wondering when my mother-in-law asked (my sister-in-law is vegan and will be at Easter dinner at MIL's house)

I've seen recipes with butter in them but that's easy to omit so I thought it was funny she asked for a "vegan" apple pie

Butter in the crust and usually an egg wash brushed on the top of the upper crust; both are easily substituted with vegan alternatives but I make no guarantees about resulting quality.