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| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 4:46:18 PM #344 | true enough i suppose.
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| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 4:39:53 PM #342 | htaeD posted...
Yeah I dont think Chang flips non JK here, but I just am too paralyzed by choices otherwise....... if you're town i hope this comment haunts you in the future lmao --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/21/24 4:35:39 PM #340 | Nah I think I've said my piece enough. There's enough doubt in my mind between Chang and Ben that I would prefer Wallz. Most of my hesitance with Chang here is that I buy the JK role with all the previous conversation we had. I really think Wallz is a safer lynch, but I understand the logic of lynching the poison so we hopefully get one more chance if things go wrong. Good luck.
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| EDumey 06/21/24 2:56:32 PM #323 | htaeD posted...
Of course if the votes remain deadlocked, then voting Chang becomes the only answer. Wallz has made his preference known. You are the missing vote. If you don't want it to be Chang, then I'm certain that you could get people to work with you, since basically everyone in the game has labeled you town at this point. No pressure after you were just complaining about DTC probably yelling at you. :) --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 2:45:16 PM #318 | foolm0r0n posted...
Just screwing around rn If Chang is lying about the poison, the absolute last thing he does is try to lynch his scum mate today, right? So Chang/Ben is far less likely than Chang/Wallz or Ben/Wallz. And if there's a 50/50 on Chang/Ben then.... --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/21/24 2:21:46 PM #311 | htaeD posted...
You may be talking that way on purpose, but it still looks odd for you to say IF instead of SINCE. I was forming an if:then statement. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/21/24 2:18:30 PM #308 | foolm0r0n posted...
That's 100% the current plan, so you should support it. I'm 100% convinced at this point that Chang and Ben are opposing alignments, which is why you see the push from Chang and Wallz so hard to lynch Ben. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 2:17:04 PM #306 | Notice Wallz not a single time addressing the two scum actions that went off N1 while I was taunted, instead going back to D1 and trying to point out early D1 talking about sitcoms while there was no other conversation happening.
And guess what, if I'm town because the taunt literally proves my innocence, then that means Ben believing SBell's day cop joke also isn't a slip at all, because he can't "slip" when I'm town! He's looking for distractions. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 2:14:18 PM #301 | Wallz trying to hard to fit a square peg in a circle hole.
Chang coming in on the side "lol maybe we should just kill ben haha" --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/21/24 10:41:41 AM #282 | wallmasterz posted...
I dont expect anyone to fully believe me but if you know Im town like I do, Dumey just blatantly claimed scum. With a town mislynch today that isnt Chang, but Chang is town, scum wins.wallmasterz posted... Consider my vote on Ben. I assume we dont want to end day early. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 10:36:53 AM #281 | foolm0r0n posted...
If they have 3 extra kills total (gun, poison, another kill) then gg. Right now it seems very likely it's Ben OR Chang. And Ben is already voting. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 10:34:05 AM #279 | PunishedBen posted...
I can see Chang/Wallz, but I say stick to the safe plan and kill Chang. I do believe you are town, and if Chang flips scum it would clear Foolmo and Death 100%. Chang if faking poison has to have a reason to want to live one more night, so I'm more afraid of his night action than anyone else's too. I think you and Chang cross voting each other makes sense. That's why my attention is being drawn to the third suspect Wallz from PoE endorsing your lynch over Chang. It very well could be Chang/Wallz and the Chang lynch is fine. It's just that I think theres a chance of Ben/Wallz if Chang is telling the truth, so why not lynch the common denominator? --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/21/24 10:30:16 AM #278 | foolm0r0n posted...
How could this possibly be, if Chang is telling the truth about being poisoned?I'm saying we don't know what scum has in their back pocket. If scum has some other kill hidden somewhere, like if one of the two nights that they didn't NK was them banking a kill, then we could already be in a MYLO situation. The point was that "Lynch Chang even if we think he's town because it will extend the game one day" is an assumption that's dangerous to take, because we simply don't know. I understand what you're saying, that if Chang is town, then poison IS that extra kill I'm worrying about. I just think it's bad to lynch people you think are town based off of assumptions. wallmasterz posted... Not to mention, YOU Dumey were just on the chopping block next to mzero. I was there because I volunteered myself and we forced MZero to put a vote down before he left. I have always been on the edge of PoE because of being a vanilla that's been at the forefront of several lynches. That's no surprise. But if you are denying that Chang was starting to get a lot of pressure from the WORDS that people were saying, and the suspicions being pushed, rather than looking solely at the votes of which people have been very conservative about because of the numbers, then this argument is very dumb. Chang was being pressured. There was a high chance of him being put on the block today regardless of him coming in with the Poison claim. Denying this is just not understanding the state of the game. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 10:06:17 AM #273 | GIGA TOWN
Dumey - Me, plus taunted on a night with two confirmed scum actions. Foolmo - Was the first one to be results stolen from. 99% sure that scum wouldn't WIFOM this. IGCD - Miller claim and town IGCD behavior. If he's scum we lose. Straight up. Death - His role is confirmed by confirmed town Peaf, and doesn't make sense as a scum role other than specifically as a WIFOM tool to say "hey this doesn't make sense as scum :)" If he's scum then unlucky. TWO OF THESE PLAYERS ARE SCUM Ben - Wants to kill Chang Chang - Wants to kill Ben Wallz - Wants to kill Ben It seems like Chang and Ben is a tossup and I'm heavily conflicted on whether Ben could be scum or not. My instincts scream at me that Ben is town from his play, and both of the other two pushing for his lynch really does not help me get away from that. I actually think Wallz might be the one that is scum in both scenarios of Chang/Walls or Ben/Wallz. If scum is in IGCD/Death, I don't think there's any world where I'm catching that so gg. ##Vote: Wallz --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 9:52:55 AM #272 | wallmasterz posted...
Thats probably a fools errand. There are plenty of compelling, common sense reasons though. Chang is not one of the last 2 scum with anyone, because If scum has 2 players left and no extra kills on the table, they need two mislynches to win. "Protecting" Chang with the poison guarantees one if they thought Chang was already on the chopping block (which he was getting a lot of doubt the previous day even though we got distracted by the MZero/Dumey tie plan). Then we kill Chang for lying about the poison, and the last insulated scum gets to a 3 man endgame, where depending on who's left might be something they think they can win. And that's ASSUMING scum doesn't have some other extra kill they are planning a win condition around. Remember that if the poison is fake, then we still have a scum role that we don't really know what they're doing, because of the apparently single use roleblock and gun. Chang setting himself up to be lynched on a future date to try and guarantee a town mislynch is not a clear of Chang. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 9:42:33 AM #267 | Thank you, appreciate that. lol.
The thing that makes me nervous is Wallz and him focusing on Ben. I think there's a chance of it being Chang/Wallz, and scum's win condition is trying to get us to lynch Ben or Me instead of Chang/Wallz. Since Ben and I keep coming up as the alternative. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 9:37:40 AM #265 | htaeD posted...
Honestly part of me just wants to lynch Ben and Dumey for repeatedly making bad lynches happen htaeD posted... Honestly it sucks because I am pretty sure chang is town but I also am not confident enough that I can catch scum and not make a game losing mislynch. Zzzzzzz. :) --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/21/24 9:36:14 AM #264 | htaeD posted...
One thing to keep in mind however, and I cannot believe I almost forgot. i completely forgot about this lol. anyone saying im scum after realizing there are only 2 scum left and there were two unimpeded scum actions N1 did not read this post of death's. I was already coming to terms with the fact that I think JK makes sense in this setup when I was last posting. The only real reason to lynch Chang here is if we think it buys us an extra day to narrow the PoE. But like I said before, scum could have some other win condition that they're going for. I don't think intentionally lynching someone we're starting to think is town is the best answer, because for all we know the game could already by at MYLO state and we lose by doing so. Should only lynch Chang if you think he's scum, not to try and delay the game ending. I want to trust Ben so much because of his play at the end of D3, but knowing that it was a town/town lynch, it's POSSIBLE he did it for town cred and to make sure the double voter died, while keeping me alive as a possible mislynch later. I also find it kind of interesting that after I was expressing doubt about Chang being scum, and asking people to consider if Sultan's Doppelganger role had any use without JK in the game, Ben came in and doubled down on Chang without acknowledging the recent conversation. I can definitely feel a Chang vs. Ben opposing alignments thing here. I'm just not 100% sure on it. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 12:15:35 PM #207 | foolm0r0n posted...
Doppleganger at worst works like RB, so it could be used on any of the 4 night actions. Only taunt and JK are actually usable though, and neither are too great for scum to use. Also, while it may be worth it to go back read the flip yourself, I'm pretty sure Sultans role did not stop the original action going off, just copied it. Just want to clarify because you said at worst it's a roleblock. But my interpretation of the role is that if Sultan doppeled SBell, then there would have been TWO taunts that night, not just one. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 12:12:35 PM #206 | Death what do you think about Sultan's Doppelganger? If there is no JK in the game, it almost seems like a troll ability and Sultan should always choose to be Godfather instead. Does the existence of that role strongly suggest that JK is real, so scum has a second role actually worth stealing?
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| EDumey 06/20/24 11:30:44 AM #204 | htaeD posted...
scum shooting Ben far less likely than them shooting me I don't disagree with this. I think because of the results stealer being used on Foolmo, the chances of Foolmo being doctor and you being the target is probably the simplest answer and most likely. But I am still exploring this line of questioning to evaluate whether the JK makes sense or not. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 11:28:54 AM #203 | foolm0r0n posted...
JK Putting Miller on the scum side is disingenuous when you're not also including things like Double Voter and Spectator Hydra on towns side. You're also not factoring in that Sultan's role was doubled up and he had to choose one or the other, so it's very likely that scum only has access to three roles per night. 2 roles per night because of Sultan dying D1. They had Resultssteal/Roleblock N1. Resultssteal/Gunsmith N2. ??/Poison(?) N3. Adding in a potential Taunt or Extra Roleblock from JK when they use Doppelganger wouldn't have made things too crazy. Actually maybe thats a good question. Foolmo what is the purpose of Sultan's Doppelganger in this game? What value could it possibly get if JK isn't in the game? --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 11:12:00 AM #199 | I'm not sure what you mean. I said in the post about you that your role isn't required to explain any of the night actions. If Chang is town and JK'd Ben last night. Then either Ben is scum, or scum shot at Ben because of his massive town-screaming post at the end of day D3.
The setup makes sense with JK/Taunt interacting with all the roles we have now. I'm not sure why me not "assigning" poisoner to someone like you or Wallz matters, because it doesn't make a difference which one of you it is. I will be honest, there's one major thing that's in your favor Foolmo that I'm willing to give a lot of credit for. The results stealer was used on you first, then claimed to be used on Chang second. And wasn't claimed today. It doesn't have to have been used today because there's really no purpose to it anymore with the roles we have left. But either results stealer was a ability that can be used multiple times and you get some credit for being the first to claim it because scum wouldn't use it on themselves first like 95% of the time. Or results stealer was a one-time use and scum Chang used it to legitimize his claim. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/20/24 10:54:49 AM #197 | Being stronger doesn't mean it's more balanced. JKs exist in games with Cops all the time. It's just a tradeoff you have to make with possibly leaving the cop exposed to get a scan off, or protecting your near confirmed town and forcing scum to bypass your protection. It's a fun combo to have in a setup precisely because there's more decision making involved for both sides!
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| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/20/24 10:35:58 AM #192 | Because I want to explore every angle, we should also talk about Foolmo scum possibility as well.
Claimed doctor under duress. Very risky without knowing any town protection yet. JK/Taunt might be enough protection in this game, it's basically the same thing as Doctor/Bodyguard but with extra bells and whistles. None of his actions are required to explain the lack of night kills. If Poison is real, then Taunt would be the way to counterplay that, which explains why we have Taunt instead of traditional BG. Foolmo being the scum in one of these pairs also helps explain why the PoE is still so hard to figure out if Chang is telling the truth. It could be Foolmo/Wallz or Foolmo/Ben. For the record, I still am leaning toward Chang over Foolmo, but there's not necessarily a reason to completely leave Foolmo out of consideration. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 10:01:49 AM #185 | foolm0r0n posted...
Oh I didn't consider that lynching Chang can never be a mislynch, since he is poisoned anyway. That's actually a good idea from IGCD. Only way it loses is if scum has yet another extra kill in the pocket. Excuse you, I brought this up first. >:( That's okay, I know everyone only skims my posts. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 10:00:42 AM #184 | foolm0r0n posted...
Good scum don't do this If everyone played perfectly, Mafia wouldn't be a fun game. Catching mistakes is kind of the point of the game! IfGodCouldDie posted... We are in a can't lose situation right now. I agree with you, I'm just paranoid that we're missing something important. Think of the numbers like this If Chang is lying about the poison and successfully get me mislynched, then tomorrow after a night kill is 5 people alive, 3 town 2 scum. But then Chang OBVIOUSLY gets lynched there for lying about the poison. Which then puts the last scum into a 3 man endgame. Either scum thinks the last member can win that endgame, or scum has an alternate victory condition to end game tonight after a mislynch. It just seems so risky to lie about the poison if they had a roleblock available. The fact that the way more obvious roleblock play WASNT used kind of confirms in my eyes that it was a one-time use as part of a Jack role. But that means they might have something else in the back pocket instead of poison there. I'm down for a Chang lynch, but there's definitely something here that I'm too dumb to solve. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:47:59 AM #177 | IfGodCouldDie posted...
What's his claim again? If scum shoots him, a random town role PM is revealed to scum. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:47:28 AM #176 | But you also can't ignore town perspective. We absolutely explainsome things away as bad town play, because town often loses games do to bad town play. I'm a clear example of that!
Think back to Sultan's vote at end of day 1. Town and scum have every right to vote out of self preservation. There was nothing wrong with Sultan's vote itself. But what Blade clued into that made him seriously doubt Sultan in the end was looking at both town and scum perspectives and seeing that the justification Sultan gave for his vote did not look like it came from town at all. It wasn't just because it's a thing scum might do. But something town wouldn't do. Now look at what I'm asking about Wallz. I can clearly see a narrative here where a scum Wallz is playing with one preference earlier in the day, but switching to a more scum preference vote later in the day, which has happened twice now. So what I'm doing to evaluate that now is think if town Wallz does the same thing. Did he genuinely just have a change of mind on Blade D1 and agree with the arguments on MZero D3? --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:38:19 AM #173 | foolm0r0n posted...
Why don't you include that he drove the Corrik lynch (along with you) and also he screwed Mzero's plan? Because Corrik killed himself, and I and multiple other people expressed yesterday that MZero didn't really need to be tested because we believed his role, but not his alignment. You are too results based in your analysis. There were town that shared those same feelings. You would also have to condemn Death for the same things if you're going to put that blame on Ben or me. We have to be able to separate intent from result. When I flip town this game and you realize that everything I did was from a town perspective, but I'm just bad at player reads, you'll hopefully understand. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:27:33 AM #171 | wallmasterz posted...
I also dont get why Chang would lie and open himself up to a counterclaim by secondary protection like bodyguard or even a jailkeeper Foolmo claimed a full day ahead when a lot of people wanted him dead, and no one came out to counterclaim him. You're right that there could have been a Bodyguard waiting in the shadows not revealing themselves because it wouldn't have been damning for Foolmo, but I think there is a chance that Chang saw no counterclaim and saw the opportunity. Remember Chang claiming right at the start of day and people even questioned why he thought was necessary to claim there? --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:24:54 AM #170 | IGCD, I know why I have gut feeling that Wallz is town, but do you have a reason for not including Wallz in your considerations?
How do you feel about Wallz expressing me as his preferred lynch D3, but when the opportunity came to lynch a double voter or vanilla, he voted for the double voter instead? Wallz you're welcome to explain your thought process on how and when you changed your mind D3. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/20/24 9:22:15 AM #169 | Scum case for IGCD: He simply got lucky claiming Miller before the game checked in, and has been able to coast on that since, which isn't out of the ordinary for his availability.
Scum case for Ben: Had a bad D1 where he had multiple people doubting him, massive swing in favor once Sultan was lynched. Came out swinging D2 and has stayed in good graces, so was never really pressured or given opportunity to crack. Vanilla claim. PoE. Scum case for Death: Had multiple people suspecting him D2 (though I don't agree with the twin flavor slip that was being pushed back then). Role that confirms itself via town COULD be balanced as scum when town has multiple other self confirming roles like Spectator Hydra, Lawyer, Double Voter, and a scum mechanic requires confirming a townie to use. All of these plus Death's journals being verified by town voices is a lot of confirming if scum has no way to interact with them. (The obviously ironic thing here is that it didn't help us because we lynched MZero anyway. :P) Scum case for Wallz: PoE. Hasn't put his neck out on the line at any point. Has followed onto trains that people have e questioned, like shifting off of Sultan D1, shifting away from me D3. Really the only thing that has me not suspecting Wallz is his role which I think is real. Maybe Wallz is the one that needs to be considered a little more here. I do have a meta reason for believing the role so strongly, but it's not something I can really elaborate on. Call it a strong gut feeling. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/20/24 9:03:52 AM #165 | foolm0r0n posted...
Dumey as poisoner I think you're reaching to separate these two things because you know the role block on Ben makes it difficult to attribute it to him. I think if the poison is real, it's probably on the same role as the RB, which is why we only saw the one "extra" roleblock N1. It's be easier from your perspective to put it all on me rather than split it between me and someone else. But that's wrong because I'm not a poisoner or jack or scum. :( --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 9:00:26 AM #162 | foolm0r0n posted...
If Chang is lying then scum skipped their NK on both N2 and N3. It is POSSIBLE that Death was the target of NK last night because everyone had him in their town pile and wasn't going to narrow PoE that much. And you successfully protected him. I fully admit I'm a little lost right now and am just kind of working through things as I go. I don't think N2 having no kill was some scum bluff. I think they either missed or had their gun ability take it away. N3 is the harder one to understand, but there are multiple ways it could have happened, so it's not like I'm suggesting something impossible. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 8:49:54 AM #158 | htaeD posted...
They could have stored up a kill maybe. If they had a roleblock they could have easily killed protection + framed the other. If they do have an extra kill or poison, then it makes more sense than the gun they gave out before took away their night kill. Is there any world where we lynch Chang here to test possible scum plan, but also because if we're wrong it's the only way we can mislynch and still be alive tomorrow? Chang is the only one I really have a strong suspicion of, so that seems like a more likely hit than picking someone out of a pool of Ben/Wallz/Death/IGCD/Dumey. At this point I've put all 4 of you in my town pile, I know I'm town, so I'd have to start doubting the logic on which I town cleared each of you to start with. That is not a percent chance that is very appealing. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 8:40:21 AM #155 | I just can't shake the feeling that the poison is fake and scum has some other win condition that requires Chang living through the day.
htaeD posted... Ben could be scum and you could not be, and Ben just wanted to further incriminate you by dying on the sword first. I wish I had a strong scum suspect to point to, but I don't. All I can really insist on is that I'm town. Foolmo saying I have a bad voting record be damned, I can justify every single one of those votes. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/20/24 8:35:23 AM #153 | Yeah just a reminder that it's 4 to lynch, but IGCD is the first to vote, so no problem right now.
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| EDumey 06/20/24 8:33:31 AM #151 | htaeD posted...
I will say I dont think a scumBen saves Dumey there if Dumey is town This is my biggest hangup. I feel like my PoE naturally points toward Ben, but that did not feel like an informed Ben at EoD unless he put on the theater of his life. I was very distracted last night and couldn't post much, but after rereading the conversation, I think I like the theory that the scum role block on Corrik D1 was part of a Jack of all Trades, which is why we haven't seen it reappear. Roleblock/Gun/Poison is three ways to bypass double protection and could justify JK+Doctor. If scum had a role block available, surely they just roleblock Chang and shoot Foolmo, and then town goes, "See? We knew foolmo was town and double protection was too much! Lynch Chang!" That would have been a MUCH more straightforward play. So I'm starting to believe the poison on Chang is real. Now I just have no idea where the last scum is. The JK on Ben is interesting. IF we were to assume the JK is the reason why the nightkill didn't happen, is it because Ben was the scum who sent in the night kill, or because scum shot at Ben thinking he wouldn't be protected after his mad last second display at end of day? --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/19/24 10:57:40 PM #132 | PunishedBen posted...
We know Corrik was blocked night 1. I do not believe it was one-use, because that seems reckless for scum to spend one use immediately on Corrik night 1 This is my exact thought. Chang is the scum roleblocker, and couldn't really roleblock Foolmo again with the JK claim. Claimed poison so that we give him an extra day to let him "resolve" himself. If he is lying about the poison though, then we're technically not at MYLO, right? I just don't know who the second scum is if that's the case. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/19/24 8:01:07 PM #106 | IfGodCouldDie posted...
So vote Dumey and we figure out the other scum afterward.(not a slip, just refuse to believe there are more than 2.) If Chang is town and dies to poison tho, that's a loss. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/19/24 7:45:11 PM #104 | huh.
i don't really see why they would poison you when you were a clear lynch option. but obviously something to consider. this moves us back into potential MYLO instead of the lack of night kill giving us some extra room to breathe. --- my links broke. :( |
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| EDumey 06/19/24 6:42:18 PM #100 | Mine is Kate Miller I don't remember when Ben claimed to look up his.
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| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/19/24 6:31:47 PM #98 | Updated claims list from before Peaf shot, and no claimed night actions added from last night.
1. Ben - Vanilla 2. Chang - JK N1 Peaf N2 Foolmo (Results Stolen) 3. Death - Last Will giver N1 Peaf N2 Foolmo 4. Dumey - Vanilla 5. Foolmo - Doc N1 Peaf (Results Stolen) N2 Peaf (taunted to SBell) 6. IGCD - Miller 7. Wallz - Gives random role PM to scum on death Dead Sultan - Scum conditional doppelganger/godfather Blade - Town Lawyer Corrik - Town Cop N1 Rb'd No kill n2 Peaf - Town Spectator Hydra D1 Summoned Kirby D2 Summoned Lopen SBell - Town Taunter N1 Dumey N2 Foolmo MZero - Town Secret Double Voter No kill n3 --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/19/24 6:28:01 PM #97 | Ben if you're scum and did that play on a town/town lynch, then you deserve the win for going all out lmao. Unfortunate result but I think given our option we had to do it eventually. Sorry MZero!
Ben has my undying affection, so I'm pretty much in the same place I was before, and want to resolve Chang/Foolmo today. But I guess we need to hear how the night actions played out before jumping to any conclusions. --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/18/24 5:58:32 PM #81 | Whelp. Good luck I guess.
--- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/18/24 5:49:49 PM #75 | Ominous Ben is ominous.
--- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/18/24 5:48:38 PM #73 | No, I'm not worried about a random vote (outside of maybe IGCD being a little unpredictable. I'm sure he'd prefer if foolmo was one of the choices on trial.).
I'm just nervous at the lack of discussion as we get closer to deadline. I'd kinda like to know ahead of time if it's me. I've already given most of my thoughts for people to follow, if you value my reads (lol). --- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/18/24 5:40:45 PM #71 | I believe that means we're 3-3 with Ben, Death, and IGCD with no votes.
--- my links broke. :( |
| Topic | Friends Mafia Topic 6 - The One Where The Peaf Army Has Fallen |
| EDumey 06/18/24 5:39:22 PM #70 | It feels weird to thank you for that, but here we are.
--- my links broke. :( |
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