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My wife and I get the 50 lb bag of Homai rice from costco so when you said "8 bags" i thought that was wayyyy too much freaking rice. It takes us awhile to get through the whole thing (longer now that I've been off carbs for a bit over a month)

2 lb bags are nothing, what brand?

We don't add anything to the cooker though besides water. Usually round up on the water just a touch to get the rice nice and sticky and serve with chicken/broccoli or whatever meat/veggie stir fry was prepared. Lightly salting the rice after it's cooked is usually sufficient.

"The circumstantial evidence falls far short of showing that race, not partisan preferences, drove the districting process, and none of the expert reports offered by the Challengers provides any significant support for their position,"

Oh, so because it was partisan preference that created a biased map it's okay?

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PeaceFrog posted...

Unless Google sheets has really improved its functionality over the years, you can count me as someone who doesn't love Google sheets.

Give me excel shortcuts or give me death

What function are you missing? Because any time I need a sheet to do something I Google it and figure out how to make it work.

PeaceFrog posted...

FROM Software Mafia, like the company that made elden ring. I don't think that ulti is pitting Photoshop against Microsoft Office Suite.

I claim Google sheets

UltimaterializerX posted...

Scum shot Isquen nights ONE AND TWO????

Yeah you deserved to lose.

Did you see what roles we lost on day 1 and 2?

We had to spin up some confusion, which worked. We just had to course correct on night 5

Kirby321 posted...

I just realized.

I jailed FD because I correctly figured out scum could take advantage of my corpse if I jailed Chang, because Chang wouldn't have known he was roleblocked and the real killer could have claimed it instead.

Problem is... I thought that scum would be Blade. I jailed FD in an attempt to clear him town in the event that I died.

Funny how that worked out lmao

That logic isn't correct though because blade, if scum, only wins in that end game by (continuing to) NOT kill so Chang and I go down in order. Blade can't kill you there or he confirms Chang innocent, because again it was very publicly announced that Chang was too be your target that night.

You got the right answer but for the wrong reasons

Leafeon13N posted...

Oh thank goodness if you all let FD Luigi that game I was going to be pissed.

And I was already angry.

I don't understand what Luigi means in this context, but Red you need to understand I would legit have been calling you out on day 1 if I were town. To me, you appeared to have made a show of returning from D&D only to immediately disappear when I tried to engage you and I legitimately understood your first post to mean that you would not be paying attention until D&D was over. That night plays out exactly the same.

Meow1000 posted...

Who did you guys try to shoot night 1

Isquen
Same person we killed night 2

@Lea @TheSultanOfSlam

New topic pls

Claiming your actual role as survivor is never doing the best thing for yourself. It 100% guaranteed no one else could be lynched that day.

And that's BEFORE he spent the rest of the day scum hunting which prevented yet another kill that night.

PunishedBen posted...

I didn't think I could switch to voting Ulti and get away with it either. Maybe I should have tried, it just felt like something I couldn't pull off in the game state

Did you see my response when he implied he had a guilty scan on me? Do that.

I would have said the same thing even if I did scan guilty.

"Me?? You're trying to say you scanned ME guilty? That's not possible ##Ulti".

Scum was believed to be 3/8 so a hypothetical scum Ulti would be securing the win on mylo with a fake guilty scan.

PunishedBen posted...

And on the day I died I was already committed to trying to help the underdogs (Or what I perceived as the underdogs at the time lol)

You knew scum had to be 4/19 that lost incredible roles on d1 and d2... And to you town were the underdogs?

But sure even so, you have your OWN win condition and that is survival. Don't play for town, play for yourself.

htaeD posted...

Oh yeah.
Tho Ben was not making it out of that day alive IMO.

Ulti was still very possibly "Lopen in disguise" on that day.

It was only after he got a correct guilty scan on Ben that he became confirmed as cop. And he would have automatically had the support of both scum members even if he wasn't sure who we were.

Enchantress posted...

If two or more players are tied in votes at the end of the day, I will randomly choose one of the tied players to be lynched. No Lynch is an exception and will always be chosen if it is among the tied options. If you dislike this rule, do not let the day end in a tie.

I'm not trying to say we didn't make mistakes and I take credit for my share in those, but the day Ben got scanned guilty was an absolutely winnable Mylo and Ben needed to play into that.

htaeD posted...

Good luck not losing the cointoss that is tiebreaker

NL auto wins tiebreaker

We NL on 6 and kill to 5

I'm telling you it was GG

Forceful_Dragon posted...

We were on 8
The next day would have been 6

We win

But even regardless of this, Ben was there only person who knew scum size had to be 4 and not 5
So he knew there should be 2 left.

Adding him makes 3/8 = mylo.

You okay those odds. You don't roll over.

And if you ARE going to roll over why spend the entire rest of the day nailing IGCD to the damn wall? You still don't win with town after you get lynched.

MZero posted...

Ben would have just gotten lynched the next day when Ulti flipped cop lol

We were on 8
The next day would have been 6

We win

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I needed to sink my teeth into this more heading into night 5.

I think my redirection lie falls by the wayside once all the town protection is gone.

Meow1000 posted...

I just don't understand why you'd ever shoot one of your best mislynch options in Ben

Chaos doesn't describe that

Yeah, thats why is the night things started being wrong?

Meow1000 posted...

Fun fact:

I said long long ago that the second person to jump on the 24 hour thing was probably scum.

Weren't you second

Not only was I not 2nd but I said that the timing was probably more likely to be a frame of you than an actual result of your post.

Meow1000 posted...

Too much chaos though.

I will defend nights 1-4 of chaos, those all had the desired effect and the Sbell kill legitimately saved IGCD from being found out immediately.

But yeah, 5, 6, 7 should have been doc, jailer, cop

UltimaterializerX posted...

Lopen died first and town won again.

I sense a pattern.

Meow1000 posted...

By the way

Thank you for nuking Lopen day 1.

Ulti and I were at each other's throats most of the game but if Lopen were alive too my god

I also said janitor should have been used on Red/Blade/Death. I threw out the "or it could be used on Lopen 24 hours after blade's post, but we probably shouldn't do that". It certainly did not have the desired effect.

Meow1000 posted...

My first impression was MZero was shot directly but I have no idea why the fuck an FD/IGCD team does that.

Legitimately to cause chaos because we were so far behind. Thats the same reason I lied about my night 4 target to create redirection chaos. It have the effect of monopolizing the conversation that day with the added bonus of making red obsess over it and stay awake all night

But again that's when we needed to flip the switch between doing chaos things and doing smart things.

changmas posted...

also MAN i was onto FD on day 1 and 2 but i let myself get caught up in making a lynch from options people wanted to see instead of just burying him damn

If you were onto me day 1 and 2 then that's completely RNG. I was functionally indistinguishable from how I play those days as town. See: every town game of mine.

Meow1000 posted...

Yeah scum deserved to lose with actions like that. Kirby never should've lived long enough to make that roleblock on day 6.

I agree. Even on night 7 I wanted a longer discussion about figuring out who you were going to target. Again I should have been more assertive

3 main reasons scum couldn't bring home the win:

1) Our best role was given to a literal child who did not have discord access and was woefully unprepared to not get completely buried on day 1.

I DID send him a PM of what he needed to say in response to my flavor question but he completely screwed up the reply anyways.

2) I advocated on night 5 that we needed to switch from "chaos night kills" to "REAL night kills". Imo it was time to kill Blade, Kirby and Ulti in order. I should have been more assertive about this instead of allowing the night kill to target Ben for chaos to continue. That was partially the beginning of our end.

3) Ben screwed us. Hard. Not just that but also HIMSELF which I think pisses me off the most. If you aren't going to play towards your OWN win condition then what are you even doing? If Ben had simply hard denied Ulti's scan IGCD and I could have backed him up and blade might have been open to the idea that scum Ulti was trying to secure a lynch with a fake scan on what could have been mylo. A town lynch that day would have won us all the game.

.

There are other reasons too I'm sure, but those feel like the main 3

If you were going to kill me while I was asleep you might as well have just done it during the movie

Anyways I'm not going to try and trick you with some kind of apology letter. But if you want to waste more time playing this game? Knock yourselves out.

##Vote: Chang

I mean I have faith we'll win even if you lunch my first, but I am absolutely a mislynch so anyone else would be better

we should just lynch blade for being a jerk and then win the game without him

/s

changmas posted...

Jeffrey Winger, TOWN [redacted] has ascended to the Chang Dynasty throne. Using the power of friendship, he will harness the powers of everyone's votes and remove evildoers (or perhaps, anti-fun players) from the game today.

I guess he never officially said the word?

Meow1000 posted...

Did he ever actually claim lawyer or any specific role name

I thought so but if have to double check day 2. I think that's probably in topic 6 or 7 when he posted his YouTube video

Kirby321 posted...

Well uh... would you like to do us the honor of ending the day with a hammer, FD?

Aren't we at -2 since Ulti removed his vote?

Yes, so if Chang is scum then his role sure as hell isn't called "lawyer"

Everyone's asleep now I guess. Cool.
Cool cool cool.

Anyways if it's Chang today then cool, but his flavor feels like an awful fit now that IGCD flipped.

Punnyz posted...

I was gonna bitch about possibly losing my Endless Shrimp but uh...da fuck yall doin

For real, I wanted to commiserate on the news but clearly that's not the vibe here anymore.

Movies over, it was Ezra, pretty good! Lots of heartstring tugging, but not in a bad way.

Why do I need to confirm the plan? I have no control over who gets blocked so I'm either blocked or I'm not.

We lynch ctes and Lea after the game if something got screwed up with the gambler shot lol. But yeah as long as Kirby actually jails correctly this things is locked up.

And now it's movie time

changmas posted...

but ever since you claimed your role FD I never had you as scum. 3p maybe, but never scum. What people keep calling me nudging blade towards you or whatever had nothing to do with setting up a lynch on you and everything to do with being annoyed at Blade setting up my lynch while seemingly ignoring you for what I perceived to be no reason

And you're effectively my POE if only because what else is left? I know it's not me and I don't think it's the cop or jailer. But I can't being myself to understand how blade want just eliminated ages ago.

Is it so someone else can point at it and say "obviously I'm still alive, scum can't kill me because there's a doctor"? Or is it so I'll suspect that's the case when it isn't?

Meow1000 posted...

Town has been hit with 3 EKs.

But there's been 5 no kills in 8 nights.

Nothing about this makes any sense.

3? Ctes was self inflicted and we got a confirmation out of it so not sure if you were counting that one.

Scum had 2 EKs and nothing about IGCDs flip mentioned anything about not being allowed to kill the same night an EK was used. I know that was being considered as a possible explanation.

Meow1000 posted...

The only way Kirby can be scum is if he's godfather backup who bussed Wall out of nowhere on day 2 while Corrik was trying to lynch me and Lopen was Jailkeeper.

That's literally it.

If this happened then Kirby just wins. I can kind of understand giving scum a backup for knightz role, but it would have to be limited use, right? And being a godfather backup with that role feels game breaking.

Grocery store beated, 30~ minutes into movie time

Enchantress posted...

You are Starburns, TOWN Bookie.

Well damn, flavor meta means a LOT less now. Not a single flavor was out of place except ctes and Ben, but Ben was lying.

Having Blade confirmed is nice but I would have preferred the shot to go to Chang. I didn't give much credence to the "Blade is engineering no kills in a show off dominance" theory. That's just the only theory that would have fit a scum blade scenario.

Chang, can you explain why are you coming at ulti instead of me? I don't think Ulti busess IGCD with a guilty scan on day 8.

Well I have to go grocery shopping and then I have a movie in a few hours. Hopefully we'll have a kirby sighting and a ctes shot by the time I get back

UltimaterializerX posted...

FD why do you keep targeting Chang?

I think it was day 5 that it was thrown out that I could be some kind of arsonist type role, so I said I would only target people I previously targeted and since then It's been Chang, Ben, Chang, Chang(RB'd).

Nights 1 and 2 had a purpose of letting people who understood flavor know what I was. Night 3 I targeted MZero to test if he was really taunter, but Ben had already told him about my role (jerk) so that iddn't work, and Night 4 I targeted ctes who was the only person who didn't full claim on day 4, but that was the night it got redirected to red.

But once I'd done all that there was no *point* to my night action, it was just something I was required to do each night, so it's no problem for me to just keep sending to the same person. If chang is really regular Jeff then I'm sure the flavor of Pierce would appreciate giving him the most love.

Meow1000 posted...

How as 3P would I know Doctor was safe the claim

There was the game where scum was informed town did not have a mason.

Any faction could be informed town does not have X should they want to impersonate it.

But honestly it's just ctes' life, if you're town you shouldn't be this reluctant to getting confirmed at the cost of him dying. I would welcome it, personally. I could finally stop freaking out about his bad flavor and I'd be unlynchable. Talk about a win/win.

I mean the fact that we flipped a 4th party means there probably is.

Unless Lopen was the 3p, but IGCD wasn't nice enough to tell us before he started violently raging.

Meow1000 posted...

Honestly though I feel like Ulti is doing exactly what he did yesterday, forcing a nonsensical narrative and manipulating every single one of his reads in order to force me to be scum.

And ctes supposedly has a way to prove you aren't beyond a doubt.

Right, much more likely kirby was shot at than me.

Then again scum killed Isquen N2 so

(edit: typo)

Meow1000 posted...

It's still actually really annoying how you guys think I would play such a disgustingly poor game as scum.

I'll gladly take the shot from Ctes ONLY under the stipulation that Kirby roleblocks Ulti.

A) if you're town you'll still be alive to tell kirby to RB ulti after ctes shoots you

B) you telling Kirby who to roleblock doesn't seem to matter too much if last night is any indication

C) The only person in charge of Kirby's roleblock is the only person who is not present in this conversation.